Here's what they said about Elmer Bernstein's score: "Capped by the crowning glory of Elmer Bernstein's emotionally and orchestrally lush score, the film is a jewel-like operation on every technical level. Its visual sumptuousness seduces from the opening frame to the last -- bookended by gorgeous period-style credits -- but never overwhelms the action."

imdb.com only lists a Celine Dion song under their "soundtrack" link. Anyone know if a score album is planned. This could make up for the trashing Elmer's "Gangs of New York" score is getting from Scorese.

This is great news. I'm excited to hear the score and see the movie. Elmer is The Man.

NP Keeping the Faith.

As for "Far From Heaven," I'm both jealous & excited by Jeff's post. Maybe this will be the film that will net Elmer a much deserved second Oscar.

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Originally posted by Bond1965:
Rumor also has it that there will be some "rock music" in the film. I don't understand why that would happen, so we'll see.

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Originally posted by Bond1965:

P.S. The U2/Bono "Gangs of New York" song at the end is one thing, I had heard that there was actual score in the film that was rock music.

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You should see the picture & description. They also have the back cover posted, but my eyesite is too poor to make out the fuzzy track times, so if someone else wants to give it a try, I'd be appreciative.

Enjoy!

1. Autumn in Connecticut (3:08)
2. Mother Love (0:42)
3. Evening Rest (1:52)
4. Walking Through Town (1:45)
5. Prowl (2:37)
6. Psych (1:02)
7. The F Word (1:11)
8. Party (0:55)
9. Hit (1:43)
10. Crying (1:41)
11. Turning Point (4:46)
12. Cathy and Raymond Dance (2:02)
13. Disapproval (1:00)
14. Walk Away (2:34)
15. Miami - arr. Patrick Russ (0:56)
16. Back to Basics (2:47)
17. Stones (1:44)
18. Revelation and Decision (4:21)
19. Remembrance (3:56)
20. More Pain (4:04)
21. Transition (0:55)
22. Beginnings (1:17)

Total time: 46:56

Some of the track times (#7, #10 and #16) were smudged, so I guessed at them. In any event, don't hold me to the times until the CD actually comes out.

Hope this helps.

Thanks for straining to read those track times, etc.

Let's hope that it is indeed a 46min+ recording.

Here they are:

1. Autumn in Connecticut (3:08)
2. Mother Love (:42)
3. Evening Rest (1:52)
4. Walking Through Town (1:49)
5. Prowl (2:36)
6. Psych (1:02)
7. The F Word (1:11)
8. Party (:55)
9. Hit (2:42)
10. Crying (1:11)
11. Turning Point (4:46)
12. Cathy and Raymond Dance (2:02)
13. Disapproval (1:00)
14. Walk Away (2:34)
15. Miami Arranged by Patrick Russ (:56)
16. Back To Basics (1:47)
17. Stones (1:44)
18. Revelation and Decision (4:21)
19. Remembrance (1:56)
20. More Pain (4:04)
21. Transition (:55)
22. Beginnings (2:17)

Can't wait.

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Originally posted by Shaun Rutherford:
Most of the music on the site is from To Kill A Mockingbird, and shame on you if you didn't know that.

[Message edited by Shaun Rutherford on 10-26-2002]

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Well yeah. NOW it is "To Kill A Mockingbird" but EARLIER when I FIRST posted that link, the preview site had original music in a loop behind the image.

Trust me that I DO know the difference between something NEW by Elmer and a classic piece of music like "To Kill A Mockingbird."

One of the pages (the one with the Dennis Quaid character) has music NOT by Elmer, but by John Barry! The music is from "Frances." This is interesting because Barry's "Indecent Proposal" music is what underscores the trailer.

I wonder if Barry was at one point considered for this film?

James

He mentioned his label, and how he plans to release KINGS OF THE SUN.

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Originally posted by JEC:
Elmer was on "Breakfast with the Arts" on A and E this morning being interviewd about the score. The interview included footage from the scoring session.

He mentioned his label, and how he plans to release KINGS OF THE SUN.

Don't know if they will repeat it...I missed the first half.

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Well thanks for the tip. I ended up catching it too and probably from the same point you did.

As I suspected, the music on the web site I heard originally on the web site IS from the film.

I just hope all this attention Elmer is getting on this score won't backfire on his chances for a LONG overdue second Oscar for his music.

I ran into Jon Burlingame awhile back and he told me Elmer's score was being replaced, but then I was hearing over the internet that just some of it was gone.

Well it appears it is all gone now. Over at Cinemusic.net they reported it, courtesy of the L.A. Times and (surprise) Jon Burlingame:

It's official. Jon Burlingame reports in the Los Angeles Times that Elmer Bernstein's score for Gangs Of New York has been replaced.

"Bernstein said that he worked with Scorsese over a period of several months late last year and earlier this year prior to recording the music in London. Afterward, Scorsese became "uncommunicative" until Bernstein received a letter "in which he basically said that he had decided he would do this as a typical Scorsese score, meaning bits and pieces that he puts together, as he did in 'GoodFellas' and 'Casino.' "

Miramax officials confirmed that there is no longer any Bernstein music in the film. Howard Shore (who worked on Scorsese's "After Hours" and recently won an Oscar for "The Lord of the Rings") has contributed music based on a previously unheard concert work, "Brooklyn Heights."

Scorsese has also borrowed music from a recent album by Peter Gabriel (who scored the director's "Last Temptation of Christ") and rock group U2 has written "The Hands That Built America."

or you can go to the link here: http://www.cinemusic.net/blog/index.html

Personally I think Scorsese & Miramax are fools and "Gangs" will probably BOMB at the box office. As I said earlier, thank goodness Elmer got a great gig with "Far From Heaven." That film & score has almost total praise from every place I've seen.

I'll be seeing "Far From Heaven" this weekend and it won't be soon enough. The CD comes out Tuesday.

Why can't the simple reason for his rejection of Bernstein's score be that he wasn't happy with how it worked in film? Whether or not Scorsese is a fool... well, it's his film and has been his vision since the 70s when he first considered using Clash for the soundtrack. I don't see how you can blame the studio for any of this other for the fact that they put up the money for the rights to the "borrowed" music and for the recording of the Shore material.

Forgive my ignorance, but is the director who replaces a score ALWAYS wrong? I can understand your disappointment; I'm disappointed, too. But why the anger? Scorsese wasn't hired for this project along with Bernstein. He was the creative force behind it who thought Bernstein would share his vision. Was he wrong? I suppose only he knows.

The film will succeed or fail based on that, not a score that didn't meet that vision for one reason or another. The Age of Innocence is one of my favorite films and favorite scores, and I was looking forward to Bernstein's GONY score. But Scorsese has had a score written by a single composer in just about 25% of his entire filmography. The fact that he trusted Bernstein to write the score to his dream project says a lot. All I can do as a filmgoer is trust him in his creative instincts to reject it.

It could be that Bernstein's score did not work with the movie. But then it appears the movie has been recut, reedited, and screwed around so often, that no score would ever fit.

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Originally posted by Dinko:
This film is starting to stink like a rotten fish.

It could be that Bernstein's score did not work with the movie. But then it appears the movie has been recut, reedited, and screwed around so often, that no score would ever fit.

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Thank you Dinko. That was exactly where I was going.

Besides, I'm not a big Scorsese fan anyway. He tends to make all his characters unlikable. I admit he has a great visual style, but there's no one to like in almost all of his films.

Far From Heaven is out.

Until then, this is what Doug Fake has to say about the score:

ELMER BERNSTEIN
Far From Heaven Varese 66421 $16.99
(46:20) Veteran composer Elmer Bernstein revisits the fifties, fashions warm, nostalgic music in style he himself created. Delicate solos for piano, woodwinds, trumpet mingle with lush sweep of fifty-piece orchestra. One of the most melodic, gently romantic movie scores in ages (which is probably the idea). Bravo to Varese Sarabande for including generous notes, color photos of composer at work. And bravo to Elmer! Six decades and still on top of the world!

naturally, no one locally has it.

And it's ok for any director to dump a score if he doesn't like it. May not be the best decision he makes but it is his decision.

Still, I feel other hands at work here. One typical reason that scores get dumped isn't that the scores are bad but that the film is bad and making last minute changes becomes necessary. The pressure on the post-production also tends to make decision-makers a lot less calm and more prone to making drastic moves. With big bucks riding on it, there's pressure to please the backers.

Scorsese isn't a hack. [Though I am no fan of his films. He's the best film professor we have in the US but he's over-rated as a director.] So he's less likely to go with bad decisions and he may feel what he's doing is more appropriate.

FAR FROM HEAVEN opens in Ann Arbor on Nov 22nd. I'm not sure I'll have a copy of the score by then but I'll hear it in context.

As for GONY's lengthy post-production schedule, it's actually comparable to those of Taxi Driver and Raging Bull. I think the extra time may have afforded Scorsese the luxury of redoing the score in his traditional way. I don't understand why changing it is a comment on the quality of the film itself. It will still have a score, after all, one that was evidently part of the test screening in September.