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    Topic:   Any news on GANGS OF NEW YORK?

     Philipp
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    Are there any news on this desperately awaited score by Elmer Bernstein?

    Thanks

    Philipp

    np: lord of the flies (philippe sarde)

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    posted 08-03-2002 08:22 AM PT (US)     

     dgoldwas
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    yeah.

    Elmer wrote the score last year, and (from what I understand) recorded some of it. Then the film got delayed a year, and was re-cut, so he's rewriting parts of his score, and it will be recorded before the film comes out in December.

    Dan

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    posted 08-03-2002 09:37 AM PT (US)     

     Dinko
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    According to Tadlow Music, at least part of the score was/will be recorded in London.

    quote:

    [The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra's] most recent soundtrack recording was for Martin Scorsese's GANGS OF NEW YORK
    With Music Composed and Conducted by
    ELMER BERNSTEIN

    http://nlw2k3.nildram.co.uk:11744/tadlow/london.htm

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    posted 08-03-2002 10:37 AM PT (US)     

     Richard Street
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    I've an idea that Bernstein will be conducting some of it at his London concert in October.

    NP: GOLDENEYE (Eric Serra). Yes, I am officially mad.

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    posted 08-03-2002 02:32 PM PT (US)     

     PeterK
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    Hard to believe no one's caught this (or I haven't noticed), but Elmer Bernstein has finished his duties with the film. Howard Shore will complete the score for the unfinished segments of the film. Major shiftwork! Can we say Last of the Mohicans, baby?


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    posted 08-18-2002 12:38 PM PT (US)     

     James
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    quote:
    Originally posted by PeterK:
    Hard to believe no one's caught this (or I haven't noticed), but Elmer Bernstein has finished his duties with the film. Howard Shore will complete the score for the unfinished segments of the film. Major shiftwork!

    Are you sure about that? Because when this was brought up before the news was that Scorcese was licensing "previously written" music by Shore to use somewhere in the film, not that Shore had actually been called in to write new music.

    Kirk

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    posted 08-18-2002 01:14 PM PT (US)     

     Shaun Rutherford
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    Hey, why doesn't everybody email Danny Gonzalez and ask him? He's heard the score!

    Shaun

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    posted 08-18-2002 03:54 PM PT (US)     

     Arnzilla
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    I've heard there was an article that mentioned Shore in a recent edition of the Wall Street Journal. It was mainly centered around the Miramax vs. Dreamworks battle over competing DiCaprio films on Christmas Day, but referred to the soundtrack as one of the reasons why Gangs won't open any sooner.

    However, in another article in Variety, Scorsese said that he'd have an answer print by Labor Day and confirmed the same thing to Entertainment Weekly in this week's cover story. So I dunno what to believe.

    BTW, who's Danny Gonzalez?

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    posted 08-19-2002 05:16 AM PT (US)     

     PeterK
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    Following up, Howard Shore has confirmed he's providing licensed material to Scorsese. Hopefully, Shore's music will be instrumental in the film, and we'll see it on a score album along with Bernstein's highlights.

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    posted 08-19-2002 09:30 AM PT (US)     

     Arnzilla
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    Peter, does this mean Shore is writing new material expressly for the film and the Variety article that I previously posted got it wrong?

    BTW, I did a search and found out about Danny G.

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    posted 08-19-2002 03:35 PM PT (US)     

     PeterK
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    People at Miramax are suggesting Shore's writing new material, however, Shore himself said he will license music to Scorsese. I would take this as meaning pre-existing stuff. Can't wait to hear it and/or what it was originally written for! Weirdness....

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    posted 08-19-2002 05:49 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by PeterK:
    People at Miramax are suggesting Shore's writing new material, however, Shore himself said he will license music to Scorsese. I would take this as meaning pre-existing stuff. Can't wait to hear it and/or what it was originally written for! Weirdness....


    Hmmm...perhaps we'll be hearing some of his rejected score to RANSOM?

    Interesting.

    Mike

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    posted 08-19-2002 07:16 PM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    I'm guessing somthing from Videodrome!

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    posted 08-19-2002 09:18 PM PT (US)     

     Arnzilla
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    Here's the complete article from last Friday's Wall Street Journal. It says that only a portion of Bernstein's score will remain in the film. I wonder if Shore and Bernstein will share screen credit.

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    posted 08-20-2002 12:50 AM PT (US)     

     OHMSS76
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    What the hell is this all about?

    Anyone else sick of Bernstein getting rejected on these films? I recently aquired copies of his scores for The Journey of Natty Gann and I Love Trouble, and both make for fantastic listens, and would have fit VERY well in the film. I'm not trying to drop names here, but I sat in disbelief hearing these two scores, and tried to figure the stupidity that saw to their rejection....now Bernstein's "pal" Scorcese is losing his music for this film.....and I know the studio is probably behind it, but doesn't Scorcese have ANY say in this matter? Can't he put up any sort of fight, or is it due to the fact that so much money has been spent, Miramax can do whatever the hell they want?
    This is just suck ass depressing, I thought I'd come in hear and read about some good news, not another f'ing rejection...Bernstein has had way too many for no good reason.

    Bloody pissed,
    Sean

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    posted 08-20-2002 04:10 PM PT (US)     

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    ...I forgot to mention that Shore's RANSOM is ANOTHER foolishly rejected score, ironically enough. Lots of great brass colors, and one cue is written in the form of a bolero, which made me swoon like a little schoolgirl on May Day It's intelligent and dark scoring, yet somewhat sharply focused...this isn't the dour, hopeless string writing one might automatically associate with Shore's thriller scores, RANSOM is bright in spots, especially the orchestration.

    And yes, I AM dropping names in this one, so have a nice smooch of me arse!
    S~

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    posted 08-20-2002 04:14 PM PT (US)     

     Arnzilla
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    Scorsese has final cut of the film. The soundtrack is his call and Miramax apparently opened its checkbook and gave him what he wanted. Of course, this is all assuming that the article was accurate. Scorsese has the luxury of plenty of post-production time on this film and it sounds like he's taking full advantage of it.

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    posted 08-20-2002 05:10 PM PT (US)     

     Arnzilla
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    I don't remember if this has been posted here before but there's an interview with Bernstein at Amazon.co.uk where he discusses the GONY score:

    It was very difficult in the sense that there's a tremendous presence in the film of native Irish music: that is Uilleann pipes, Bodhráns; Irish songs, that sort of thing. And it was actually very difficult to find a language which lived very well together with all the tremendous presence of the Irish folk music. So the score is what I would call "objective". For instance, I didn't use any violins at all. Heavy emphasis on brass, once again, drums and woodwind. It's not the kind of music that's going to jump off the screen. It's on a huge canvas--the whole film's on a huge canvas--but it's hard to describe, the whole film is hard to describe; when you see it you will say, "I've never seen anything like this before." The feeling about the film is just very, very different.

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    posted 08-20-2002 05:20 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by OHMSS76:
    ...I forgot to mention that Shore's RANSOM is ANOTHER foolishly rejected score, ironically enough. Lots of great brass colors, and one cue is written in the form of a bolero, which made me swoon like a little schoolgirl on May Day It's intelligent and dark scoring, yet somewhat sharply focused...this isn't the dour, hopeless string writing one might automatically associate with Shore's thriller scores, RANSOM is bright in spots, especially the orchestration.

    And yes, I AM dropping names in this one, so have a nice smooch of me arse!
    S~



    Where did you get this?!? I want it!

    Mike

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