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    Topic:   The Story behind K:19īs tracklisting?

     Philipp
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    1-4 Suite for orchestra and chorus in g minor
    I. Fear - Largo
    2. Fate - Adagio
    3. War - Allegetro
    4. Soul - Misterioso
    5. Home
    6. Heroes
    7. Journey
    8. Capt. Alexi Vostrikov
    9. Missile Launch - The Rescue
    10. Reactor - Selections from "voices of the light"
    "victory at orleans-interrogation-abjuration-relapse-karitas-the final walk"
    11.Reunion

    I find this a rather strange tracklisting. How did this happen?

    Thanks

    Philipp

    np: K-19: The Widowmaker (Klaus Badelt)

    [Message edited by Philipp on 07-27-2002]

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    posted 07-27-2002 04:00 PM PT (US)     

     TimT
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    Not...I don't see how its that odd.


    I think Nyman's score to The Claim is strange.

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    posted 07-27-2002 05:34 PM PT (US)     

     Dinko
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    The composer or the music editor decided to name the tracks...

    Besides, when is the last time you saw *normal* (whatever that is) track titles from a MediaVentures-related score?

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    posted 07-27-2002 05:35 PM PT (US)     

     Lancelot
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    Screw that--when was the last time you saw a Media Ventures-related post that didn't have a "Media Ventures" punchline?

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    posted 07-27-2002 07:28 PM PT (US)     

     TimT
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    What makes a Media Ventures score? I always thought it was the scores that were programed and mixed at Media Ventures in CA. But I see no mention of MV in the credits.
    Badelt's scores for The Time Machine, and K-19 only have a few minutes of music inspired by Gavin Greenaway's harsh orchestrations for action music, the rest of the music doesn't have a personality identifiable with MV sound.
    K-19 is a large orchestral score with mainly classical influences, and recorded in Russia and Washington DC.
    The Time Machine is supposed to have this Goldsmith influence in the theme, as well as some Karl Jenkins inspired music I find in the choral parts.

    Now how do these get stamped as Media Venture scores?

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    posted 07-27-2002 09:37 PM PT (US)     

     Lancelot
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    Social Justice: Guilt by Association.

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    posted 07-27-2002 09:39 PM PT (US)     

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    You know I couldn't help but notice that Jerry Goldsmith's Ghosts and the Darkness was mixed and programmed at Media Ventures.

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    posted 07-27-2002 09:44 PM PT (US)     

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    You know, I'd like to know the story behind the Face/Off track listing. Gavin Greenaway told me who came up with them. It was John Powell and another person but I don't remember who. But I seem to remember it being a woman I believe...

    Clayton

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    posted 07-27-2002 10:24 PM PT (US)     

     TimT
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    Well apprently they didn't watch the movie huh?

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    posted 07-27-2002 10:52 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by scoreguy16:
    a woman I believe...

    Clayton


    Melinda Lerner?
    Is there alot of problem with the Track listing? I thought that half of it were very indicative of what the scene it was trying to convey...The rest was like...fun.
    I know that "hans loft" is name after the place where Hans and other composers would go to take a break from scoring...But this aint' new news...

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    posted 07-27-2002 11:00 PM PT (US)     

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    Hey Lancelot, why do you even bother posting if you have nothing to add to the topic?

    TimT, I thought that K-19 had a very Zimmer sound to it. The slower parts, to me, sounded like stuff from House of Spirits, Hannibal, and Invincible; the action music sounded like rejected music for Gladiator, where Zimmer's action music is far superior to Badelt's material. None of these are drawbacks to the score, its just what scores K-19 reminds me of.

    Philipp, whats wrong with the track listing? I've always liked it when composers use one word for their tracks on CD. K-19's makes sense -- I can pretty much get the jist of where each cue appeared in the film from those titles.

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    posted 07-28-2002 09:07 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by sean:
    I've always liked it when composers use one word for their tracks on CD

    The undisputed master of that would be, of course, Bernard Herrmann, and his nouns.

    Dan

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    posted 07-28-2002 11:11 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by dgoldwas:
    The undisputed master of that would be, of course, Bernard Herrmann, and his nouns.


    ...
    the rainstorm
    the peephole
    the murder
    the clean up
    the car
    the swamp
    the curtain
    the search
    the stairs
    ...

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    posted 07-28-2002 11:22 AM PT (US)     

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    Was that from the Claim? That is strange tracklisting. As for militant and aggressive tracklistings under two words, try Peacemaker and Broken Arrow. Is it true about what was said of Hans' Loft? The track was literally taken from "Hans' Loft?"

    [Message edited by Norman McCay on 07-29-2002]

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    posted 07-29-2002 12:13 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Norman McCay:
    Was that from the Claim?

    If you're referring to Kosh's post, then no. It's from PSYCHO. hence his quoting my Bernard Herrmann line.

    Dan

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    posted 07-29-2002 12:35 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Norman McCay:
    Was that from the Claim? That is strange tracklisting. As for militant and aggressive tracklistings under two words, try Peacemaker and Broken Arrow. Is it true about what was said of Hans' Loft? The track was literally taken from "Hans' Loft?"

    [Message edited by Norman McCay on 07-29-2002]


    Like I said, It's named after the area in which composers go to take breaks from composing and stuff.

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