From the German Internet Movie Database: Calista Flockhart is apparently planning to team up with boyfriend Harrison Ford in the next Indiana Jones movie. Filming on Indiana Jones 4 is due to begin in May 2004, with the film looking more adult than its 1980s predecessors. A source says, "Harrison Ford had only one demand when he was approached about doing a fourth Indiana Jones movie - that Calista be written into the new movie. Luckily, Steven Spielberg and George Lucas loved the idea. They think Calista will be a perfect romantic interest for Indiana." And having the ex-Ally McBeal star on board solved one problem for the filmmakers. The source says, "The Indy team had no idea what to do with Indy for the fourth movie. Bringing Calista on board gave them inspiration and they dreamed up the whole story in just a few hours. Getting Calista into the movie was the kick-in-the-pants the guys needed."

What the? I swear...I have been impressed with MINORITY REPORT as well as the show ALLY MCBEAL, but this smells like another Lucas recipe for disaster. As far as I'm concerned, I have lost hope for THE STAR WARS saga. I am dreading what will happen to the Indy Saga. Whenever they start talking about going in a different direction with what fans are used to, you have to cringe. These type of ideas are killers. And writing in girlfriends...Do Spielberg and Lucas even care about story anymore?

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Originally posted by Lightborne:
From the German Internet Movie Database:

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Hmm...the German IMDb is basically just the English one with German labels...

Remember who gave us the fifties diner scene in the STAR WARS Universe, tracked video game music in the movie to replace original score, implemented use of the banal and now tired MATRIX cliche, and allowed lines like "What a drag" to actually be filmed. Track records like this are not good. I have pretty much given up on the original magic which was the STAR WARS saga. I don't want the Indy saga to suffer the same fate.

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Originally posted by Al:
Lancelot non-conformist sarcastic comment #15,643,201

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Originally posted by Lightborne:
Peter Jackson at least takes his films seriously and I like his track record, even beyond FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING. This is because he does take his films seriously refusing them to become a nudge-nudge, wink-wink, sitcom farce.

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Originally posted by Lightborne:
Peter Jackson at least takes his films seriously and I like his track record, even beyond FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING. This is because he does take his films seriously refusing them to become a nudge-nudge, wink-wink, sitcom farce.

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Yeah, but have you seen BAD TASTE and MEET THE FEEBLES????

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Originally posted by Lancelot:
You seem to be under the influence that all those things are bad. Of course, that's your opinion, but "banal and tired Matrix cliche"?? Cripes, you must have a shorter attention span than a 6-year old polishing off a box of Sugar Smacks.

The real point? Let directors direct their movies, and don't jump to conclusions.

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Actually that "banal and tired Matrix cliche" is designed for that 6-year-old with the short attention span. Association is a marketable thing.

My real point? I don't consider George Lucas a director. He's a visual effects supervisor...oh, and a butcher...

The best thing of the last two films was John Williams music. He has at least stayed on par with my expectations of his turnout. I remind you of "Duel of the Fates" "Anakin's Theme" and the new "Love Theme". But as for the rest of this latest crapfest George slopped up for us, Joan said it best when she said:

"I’d rather have MY GUMS SCRAPED than watch AOTC's ignominious acting and listen to its moronic dialogue again."

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Originally posted by André Lux:

Lightboner is jealousy of Lucas and Ford!

What a loser...

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I'm the loser, Andre? Let's see, you said this:
"Hasta bashed AOTC, an "american" movie (i.e. done in the USA by "americans").
Therefore, Hasta is an "anti-american" person!"

And this

"In fact I was calling the score "mediocre" not the movie, which was just another escapist fantasy for the infant-juvenile audiences or (to us old farts) for our inner-child - like STAR WARS always was and will be...I didn't expect anything but that so I liked it a lot and will see it more times always with a smile in my face and my girl by my side."

You have gladly admitted that while not expecting anything, you willingly contribute to the ticket sales of probably one of the strongest corporate AMERICAN dinosaurs. A man who delivers up cinematic crap based on the iconography of a logo and you eat it willingly.

Thus, can we deduce from Andre's equation for Hasta that since he hails ATOC, an "american" movie (i.e. done in the USA by "americans") in all its "mediocre" glory that ...

Therefore, Andre is an "pro-american" person!" and it is he who is indeed JEALOUSY of Lucas and Ford!!!

Based on this true desire revealed, you should come on over for a visit and get a visa, Andre. Even America might embrace your buckets of contradictory bullshit.

Who's the loser now?

No further questions, your honor.

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Originally posted by Tristan:

Andre is an "pro-american" person!"

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I never was "anti-american".
Remeber that I live in America, which is the name of a continent...

Only losers and rancorous freaks that happpens to live in USA think they are "americans", when the right is to call themselves "unitedstadians" (as for USA - the name of your country, most known as United States).

And you should be proud of people like George Lucas, Harrison Ford and other since they are the ones to help USA to keep being great thanks to art and entertaining, and not war and intolerance.

BTW, "Tristan"?? Hihihihihihihi...
I like Lightborn better (aka: Luxborne).

To the junkyard with this thread! (Where's Peter when you need him?)

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Originally posted by Andre Lux: Only losers and rancorous freaks that happpens to live in USA think they are "americans"

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You rancorous freak.

I live in America too.

I don't think the majority would agree with you in regards to AOTC...perhaps the majority of folks who are hoping to relive the same moments from their youth while watching the original trilogy. For many of us though, it was simply an entertaining couple of hours. And in my ever humble opinion, while yes the dialogue was not on par, the acting (Christiansen in particular) was far better than any of Hamill's performances. On the dialogue front, as anyone considered that perhaps Lucas is trying to model a more formal era to contrast the loose and wild ways of the rebellion. Just a thought.

Anyway, I simply don't feel that because some people have been disappointed with the new Star Wars trilogy, and due to a couple unsubstantianted rumors regarding an actress's possible involvement in a film is a good reason to discount it (especially considering they don't even have a finished screenplay yet).

Then you must be pigeon-holeing the entire planet because they refer to the country you're talking about as "America" as much as it refers to it as the "United States." Wake up and smell the reality.

And you should be proud of people like George Lucas, Harrison Ford and other since they are the ones to help USA to keep being great thanks to art and entertaining, and not war and intolerance.

Thus, you think the USA is great!!! I knew it. Andre wants to become a United-Stadian!! Why else would he pass up on the greatness he pretends to loathe so much.

BTW, "Tristan"?? Hihihihihihihi...
I like Lightborn better (aka: Luxborne).

What about Lux-Out?

Read my profile to understand my recent name change.

Oh. And for the rest of you....once again, I haven't condemned everything Lucas has done, nor the Indy series. My point was that I seriously question Mr. Lucas's decision-making abilities. Similar to Spielberg. People in general (on the whole) would agree on this fact: The new STAR WARS films don't touch (or aren't AS GOOD AS) the old trilogy...even with Mark Hamill. They just aren't what the original trilogy was. Everyone I think would admit that.

So, I think I am justified in expressing my concern for future Spielberg/Lucas projects. Bad decisions have been made by both of them. Plain and simple. And if the rumour pointed out in this thread is true, then that would support this as being another example of Lucas's bad decisions. Calista may be great in the movie. She may be better than Karen Allen and Kate Capshaw...and Allison Doody. But the reason for putting her in (based on the article) is not to serve the story. It is to serve an ego, pure and simple. This is a bad decision. These kind of decisions create the type of failure that is the BATMAN series.

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Originally posted by Tristan:
Then you must be pigeon-holeing the entire planet because they refer to the country you're talking about as "America" as much as it refers to it as the "United States." Wake up and smell the reality.

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Marian, as usual, has the right idea.

Andre, with his comment that "only losers and rancorous freaks that live in the USA think they are Americans," seems confused, since I'm both an American in that I'm on the American continent and that I'm in the United States of America.

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Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
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[b]Then you must be pigeon-holeing the entire planet because they refer to the country you're talking about as "America" as much as it refers to it as the "United States." Wake up and smell the reality.<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, the reality *is* that the USA are not America. They're in America, and you are Americans, but you're not the only Americans. I'm as guilty as referring to the US alone as "America" as most other people, but that doesn't make it correct. America is a continent, not a nation. [/B]

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I see your point, Marian and political correctness may fairly dictate the fact that America is indeed a continent, but when the world talks about America, the REALITY is that they are referring to the United States. This is the same as the fact that when people talk about Canada they refer to Canadians. Mexico, Mexicans and so on. It's just a fact of life. And the continent is not America, it is North America. These are the rules and monikers that the world has established.

And I concur. I think this thread is dead. I was hoping to ignite a discussion about the failing faith in the decisions made by filmmakers like Spielberg and Lucas...I guess I was able to get my satisfaction tonight by turning to Trey Parker and Matt Stone and their latest episode of SOUTH PARK which addressed this very thing. And bravo to them.

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Originally posted by Tristan:
Andre wants to become a United-Stadian!!

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See? I finally convinced one of these freaks that they are actually "unitedstadians", not "americans". I mean, they are "americans" all right, but just because they live on the American continent (just like our brothers from Peru or Colombia).

Anyway, I read Tristan (aka: Lux-boner) and I notice he claims to be a film editor and a writer.
Now that's explain why he loathe George Lucas so much. He's obviously just another of that nerds which tried to work at Lucasfilm with all his hart but nevertheless was rejected due to lack of talent...

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Originally posted by Al:
Citizens of the United States of America are called Americans not "unitedstadians."

Andre, with his comment that "only losers and rancorous freaks that live in the USA think they are Americans," seems confused, since I'm both an American in that I'm on the American continent and that I'm in the United States of America.

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Wrong. You are called "unitedstadians" by anyone who understand how the self-proclaimed "american" term is just an imperialist one. Even spanish CNN call you people "estadunidenses" (i.e. "unitedstadians").

But you are right about one thing: being part of the American continent it's right for you to call yourself "american". But only because of that.

And sorry for the "only losers and freaks" remark. I was refering to people like Lux-boner (aka Tristão) and his peers.

I am sure you are a well informed and peaceful human being, Al!

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Originally posted by Tristan:
I see your point, Marian and political correctness may fairly dictate the fact that America is indeed a continent, but when the world talks about America, the REALITY is that they are referring to the United States.

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In America we are called American. Anyone outside of the United States of America think the name of the country is the United States. WRONG.

The name of this country is America. Plain and simple as a collective we are the United States "of" AMERICA. 50 united states make up the one nation of AMERICA. Of all the nations in the two American continents we are the only one that even uses the name America. What the rest of the world calls us doesn't matter to us because we know who and what we are.

"United States of America" isn't really a name. Just a senseless label, since America is already the name of the entire continent.

But maybe those who "invented" the country were already planing to take over the entire continent - something they are trying to do till these days... Hummm... how interesting!

No nation calls themselves by the continent they live in, but Americans (of United States of America) are supposed to use a different term than Americans (although the principle in name is equavelnt to that of Germany, continent or not) only because Andre says so?

Marian and Andre, again, your logic does not measure up under examination. Better luck next time.

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Originally posted by Scott:
Since when do a people call themselves by the name of their continent and not their nations? People in Germany call themselves Germans or rather "Deutsche" (although the name of the country is Bundesrepublick Deutschland).

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Indeed the Germans are right. They would be wrong if the name of their country were United States of Europe - which is the case of USA.

I am not being "anti-american". Just trying to understand this mess.

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Originally posted by André Lux:
"United States of America" isn't really a name. Just a senseless label, since America is already the name of the entire continent.

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That's not what I said.

Scott, for one thing, the name "Bundesrepublik Deutschland" doesn't include an "of" - but that wasn't my point. But since the two American continents are already known as America, and I assume they were already at the time the US were founded?, (that's why I interpreted that "of" that way) I do find it egoistic if you keep using the name "America" for your nation only. It's not about political correctness. But it gives the others that "we are the most important, you aren't" feel that's so often criticized here.

(When Germany was split into the BRD and the DDR, "Germans" referred to the people of both countries)

Scott, for one thing, the name "Bundesrepublik Deutschland" doesn't include an "of"

Now Marian, you know that is a simple trick of words. In German, there is no such thing as "of". Translated, Bundesrepublick Deutschland is Federal Republik of Germany (oh, look, there is the "of" afterall).

But since the two American continents are already known as America,

Not to be too techinical but they are known as South America and North America.

I do find it egoistic if you keep using the name "America" for your nation only.

You may feel that way, but America is part of our name Marian, whether it is a continent or not. Sure, we are all Americans, but while Andre is also a Brazilian, we are Americans, since our name incorporates the name of the continent.

But it gives the others that "we are the most important, you aren't" feel that's so often criticized here.

No one in this country, that I know of, has that attitude. Now, if some in other countries feel this way, or have this feeling that we think this way, then it is their problem. Perhaps they have a inferiority complex or something. Just because some feel this way does not make the practice or the fact that America is part of our name wrong.

But you shouldn't be surprised if others complain when you keep reserving the term "Americans" exclusively for yourselves, that's all

Yeah well, jealousy has never surprised me quite frankly.