I KNOW! That's supposed to be my job!

Regards,

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Originally posted by Numenorean Music:
[QUOTE]I KNOW! That's supposed to be my job!

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Why the negativity?

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Originally posted by Jeron:
Richard has a point. FEAR DOT COM, while not the kind of movie you guys might see, could very well have a great score. I doubt Mr. Townson picked this one up because he thought it would sell well.

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I'm sure it's being released because the financial risk is relatively low. Either the score is all electronics or recorded with non-union musicians.

Still, even if the score is a turd (who knows, right?), it's to the credit of Varese that they continue to represent as many composers as they can. It's my understanding that no matter what the quality of the score, for what film or who composed it, there's gonna be somebody on this board who will want a CD of it.

If a label doesn't put out some score, someone moans.

If a label does put out a score, someone moans (it's too long...it's too short...it's too "this" or not enough "that")

AND NOW,...someone has to moan that a label, in this case Varese Sarabande, is putting out a soundtrack that "some individual" might not want for their personal collection?

For the sake of all that is rational, logical, reasonable and otherwise apprehendable in the universe...give us a break...

If you don't care for the release, just go and find something you DO want and buy that...and be HAPPY that the soundtrack you have just purchased was actually available at all.

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Originally posted by Shaun Rutherford:
And we all know that that somebody is going to be TimT.

Shaun

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Hey look a refrence to me! I guess I better respond. But I'm not sure what the argument is about here. Varese for releasing a Pike score? or Varese releasing a Pike score to a movie such as Fear Dot Com?

I mean Shaun you come out saying a crap score, but whats so crappy about it? Have you heard it? And even if you do think its a crap why shouldn't Varese release it? I don't like Total Recall, but I think it was cool that they released a Deluxe Edition for the people who wanted it. Even if it is a crap score. *(actually its not a crap score, and I have half way found it appealing while playing it, along with the MAX PAYNE video game recently, but I'm reffering to when it was first released)*

The look and style of the movie seems interesting, and theres no stupid teenagers in it. But I'm not clear on what the movie is about though. You log on to an Adult website and then one or two minutes later you die, right? And then there looks like some type of paranormal thing going on too.
A great set-up for a classic X-Files episode or maybe Millenium (remember that show?)
The only thing I don't like about it now is that its made by the people who did House on Haunted Hill, which had some very disturbing images and too loud sound effects.

Back to Pike's score, I don't know what to say about it yet. The only thing I heard from him was Star Kid, but I don't remember any of it. But people say it needed themes.
Being that I am not a big fan of the horror genre unless its classy like Lost Souls and The Others. I don't see myself buying this CD at the present time. In the future I may wind up with it, you never know. I passed on Thirteen Ghosts, but then I read the reviews and its supposidly and ecxellent score, so now I'm looking for it.

Bottom line is just because you don't like a certain score doesn't mean it should not be released to the people who do want it! I mean how fair is that?

There are definitely future employment possibilities for you at Intrada.

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Originally posted by PeterK:
The whine police force seems to have grown the last few months. How much are they paying these days? I could use some extra cash, too. Ok then.... Shaun, shuttup you stupid mother ****er.

How'd I do?

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Just because Varese is releasing it, doesn't mean it's an automatic winner, David.

It's weird, because I really seemed to enjoy the Urban Legends score upon first listen, but the more I listened to it, the more "blah" it sounded. To these ears, Ottman's never recovered.

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Originally posted by Shaun Rutherford:
Are you guys serious? When was the last time you heard a score by Nicholas Pike that was worth more than 99 cents?

Just because Varese is releasing it, doesn't mean it's an automatic winner, David.

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Shaun,

These are your personal opinions. But unfortuently their not worth enough to speak for everyone else.

Noone is asking you to see FearDotCom, and nooone is making buy the score.

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Originally posted by Shaun Rutherford:
Just because Varese is releasing it, doesn't mean it's an automatic winner, David.

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I never said that.

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Originally posted by Shaun Rutherford:
Are you guys serious? When was the last time you heard a score by Nicholas Pike that was worth more than 99 cents

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I was quite impressed with what he did for the TV miniseries of THE SHINING.

History speaks for itself.

feardotcom.....you can tell already this will be a LAME ass movie.

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Originally posted by Al:
[B]I have to admit, part of me wishes Varese would cut back on some of these releases by lesser known composers to cover the cost of bigger ones that they may not be able to produce otherwise. Remember that fabled Jimmy Neutron score album?
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Cut down on lesser known composers?

How is film music going to survive if the only scores that get released are from Williams, Horner, Goldsmith, Elfman, Debney, Zimmer or JNH?

There is SOOOO much more out there and its actually A SHAME that these up-and-coming composers (well really their talent should have already made "room" for them in the sales racks) don't get more A-list gigs and full soundtrack releases.

DGMW, I'm glad most of the big boys (and girl) get their scores released officially, but this could be coming at a cost. I'd happily trade in Williams' Harry Potter, Horner's Windtalkers, or Elfman's Spiderman to let someone like a Michael Giacchino, Edmund Choi, Christopher Lennertz, or Alan Williams get a shot an A-list movie and soundtrack release.

I hope that first movie studios will get a little more daring in who they hire to score their films (yeh right) and second that record labels, VS, Decca, Sony, et al will give their a seriously good treatment and release.

Not everybody is going to like everything from every new composer, but I am all for them releasing these "lesser known" works.

And would they have even bothered to release some of the rejected scores like K2, Picture Bride, Cruel Intentions, Halloween H2O?

I think Varese should release every score they can simple because noone else wants to, and somebody out there wants it.

An age of only Goldsmith and Williams release? Whats wrong with you people!

How many labels have gone out of business for releasing less-than-super-popular soundtracks? Quite a few. Which is Shaun's original point.

I guess it's the right time to say Y'ALL ARE MISS THE POINT.

Of course, Shaun's point was also made with deeeeep sarcasm. We've come to expect Varese to release the occasional scrap from the bottom of the barrel, simply because they can. It won't bring the ship down.

However, if it comes to light that $10,000 was spent on scrap when it could have been used for 3 more seconds of some of the choral music from Air Force One, our friend Al will be pissed.

On a clear day you can see forever....

lol.

Yeah, I said that they're releasing lesser scores, but not necessarily at the expense of bigger ones. Which is what you're saying here with your "won't bring the ship down" comment.

Crikey. We agree, and you still have to make an issue outta it.

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Originally posted by TimT: I think Varese should release every score they can simple because noone else wants to, and somebody out there wants it.

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Yeah. For a day and a half, and then they trade it for the next bottom o' the barrel score that comes along.

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Originally posted by Shaun Rutherford:
Well, bully for you, Richard.

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Hey, you asked the question. What the hell is wrong with you?

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Originally posted by TimT:
So how come you guys complaining about Varese releasing Eight Legged Freaks? That looks like something to definetly pass up and the same with Halloween Ressurection.

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Maybe because EIGHT LEGGED FREAKS is a fun score performed with an 80-piece orchestra, and people have been wanting something like that from Ottman for a while? And maybe because the HALLOWEEN franchise has a huge fan base and will therefore be able to sell their albums?

First, the bravo part. As we all know Varese is King Daddy-O of the independantly run Soundtrack Companies. When they get the rights to a score album it's usually some big Studio release that the studio doesn't want to release on one of their own labels because (A) They won't sell 100,000+ units or (B) The studio doesn't want to pick up that pesky re-use fee (or a combo of both). Some of the bigger releases they have come out with lately include Blade 2 (re-use), Ice Age (re-use), Scorpion King (re-use) and the "Ott-Man's" 8 Legged Freaks (the best score I've heard all year!). For a company like Varese to release a minor score like Fear Dot Com by a fairly unknown composer makes me want to give them a "tip of my hat." They clearly have the best possible distribution for an independently owned Soundtrack company. Mr. Pike's score will be made widely available in stores across the nation. If this soundtrack would have been released by a lesser soundtrack company the chances of this score getting into as many stores would lessen by HALF, if not more! By sharing a "lesser" score like this to the general market Varese is only doing good!

However, there's the other part of me that looks at this situation like this -- FEAR DOT COM?! That's like the Captain of the High School Football team dating the Ugliest girl in school! You are so much better than that! Leave the ugly dames to the guys who have trouble getting laid! Why the hell do you need to bang the head cheerleader and her skanky girlfriend too?!

I like the fact that Varese is going to release a medium sized score and get it out there to a wider audience. However, I'm disapointed that they are spending money on this release when they can put that money to good use and release another Warner's title like The HEIST or even an older title like Helen of Troy!

It's very conflicting, but hey -- at least it's being released!

Regards,

Cripes, I just realized we're speculating on something we have no idea about....does anyone know what this sounds like? Has the damn thing even been recorded??!?!?

I hope those who have this when it comes out will post their thoughts, whether it's a pile of garbage or a modernist masterpiece.

31 tracks at a whopping 72:22!

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Originally posted by David Maxx:
Can't wait for this one, assuming I will like both the movie and score.

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lol.... yeah, that kinda seems obvious, dontcha think?

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Also, the album is pretty lengthy so I shouldn't have to worry about missing cues.

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Ahh - but what if it's not a good listen at that length? Or..... what if he wrote over 90 minutes of music?