With the exception of the hauting Love Theme, the rest of the score is amazingly banal and unimpressive - makes you wonder if it was composed by the same guy who did THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, one of the best movie scores of all times.

The score only take off for short time when he re-use his old themes, like The Force and Yoda's or Duel of the Fates.

And what the hell was that Tan Dun's CROUCHING TIGER... rip-off on the Chase Through Coruscant cue?? Not only was cheesy but also had nothing to do with the scene!

I liked the movie and the score (the digital projection and sound mix is LEAGUES better than the film for some reason).

The score remains pretty much intact as far as I can tell except for that bit on Geonosis, then they go to chopping for some reason.

oh well.

Funny, but ESB was less popular than the original ANH.

Everyone said AOTC was better than Phantom Menace. I should have asked
to what degree..... .000000000000010? I did ENJOY the new love theme in the
movie, but I’d rather have MY GUMS SCRAPED than watch AOTC's
ignominious acting and listen to its moronic dialogue again. (So anyone confused as
to how I felt about this movie? )

NP Shogan Meyeda

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Originally posted by joan hue:
You are being kind, Andre, to call AOTC “mediocre.” I thought it was wretched.
I thought Phantom Menace was horrid when I saw it at the theater.

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In fact I was calling the score "mediocre" not the movie, which was just another escapist fantasy for the infant-juvenile audiences or (to us old farts) for our inner-child - like STAR WARS always was and will be.

I didn't expect anything but that so I liked it a lot and will see it more times always with a smile in my face and my girl by my side.
I even like THE PHANTON MENACE, whose score is far superior when compared with the one Williams did for AOTC.

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Originally posted by Hasta:
The film was ass, the score is fan-freakin-tastic.

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Hasta bashed AOTC, an "american" movie (i.e. done in the USA by "americans").

Therefore, Hasta is an "anti-american" person!

Jz

NP: Superman (RSNO)

Jz

ANDRÉ, I'm very glad that there is someone else noticing this. I talked about the same thing on my previous thread "KEN DOES IT AGAIN..." and also on my little review of the soundtrack album.

I went to see AOTC for the second time couple of days ago (just for curiosity), and while I say the movie is far superior in its action sequences than anything I've seen on the big screen in ages, the movie is unfortunately disastrously empty with a shockingly empty score. In fact, this time I could concentrate a little bit more to the score itself and I really begun to wonder why Williams didn't use - or Lucas ? - the heartbreakingly-beautiful "Anakin's Theme" from Episode One almost at all - - In my opinion that theme could have been used to a much more fuller extent on AOTC than the horrible love theme (I'm sorry, I still can't understand why people rave about "Across the Stars" being such a great piece - in my opinion it is as empty melody as the characters for whom it has been composed...)

AOTC is full of notes, but very little music - and no emotion at all. I totally agree with André that AOTC score, despite of the excellent action music, is worst of all STAR WARS scores - actually AOTC is NO STAR WARS score at all, because all the other scores are just swarming with MUSIC and EMOTION...

KEN

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Originally posted by Ken S:

AOTC is full of notes, but very little music - and no emotion at all. I totally agree with André that AOTC score, despite of the excellent action music, is worst of all STAR WARS scores - actually AOTC is NO STAR WARS score at all, because all the other scores are just swarming with MUSIC and EMOTION...

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I may be a person easily to be "manipulated" with beautiful melodies - I have admitted that if Horner would have used the "My Heart Will Go On" melody MUCH MUCH MORE on TITANIC score, I would have flooded the entire audience with my tears...

On AOTC it just seemed that John Williams didn't want to use the most obvious theme - perhaps thought it as a cliché - and yet destroyed it all by composing this BIGGEST CLICHÉ LOVE THEME OF HIS CAREER, putting it in EVERY possible moment in the movie. I'm even more surprised that John Williams himself misses one specific timing in the movie - the scene in the beginning where Obi Wan and Anakin are reunited with Padme, the "Anakin's Theme" snippet starts to play TOO darn late, in my humble opinion. There were even some other occasions when I thought that the timings of the music were - for some reason - obnoxiously wrong... I really started to believe that John Williams - or then George Lucas - think they are preventing all the clichés, making the music somehow "more realistic" - but in this kind of fantasy movie that kind of attempt is only ridiculous...

Thanks, André, for agreeing with me.

I am tired of trashing this movie but as far as the score goes, I do not care. If I had brought the score and listened to it, my mind would be tortured because it would remind me of the crapy Episode 2.

In the past I have trashed Episode 1. Now I have more respect for it. At least it had a good light sabre fight in it. George Lucas was lazy on Star Wars EP2. He left all the work to the Computer Graphics department.

However, I am thinking about buying the Star Wars Episode 1 score. I will not buy Episode 2 soundtrack, the bad movie would haunt me. I would have bought it but it is too late. I have already seen the poor movie. EP2's scenes would now be linked to the score. If science can erase EP2 from my mind then I will buy the EP2 score.

DON

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Originally posted by Graham Watt:
Ken, I don't know if you subscribe to FSM, but in the latest issue there's a very detailed rundown by John Takis of the music in ATTACK OF THE CLONES, and how it was absolutely butchered in the print, tracking pieces from THE PHANTOM MENACE, looping other bits etc etc etc. John Takis would agree with you on many points - the timing of some moments was awful. Takis lays the blame squarely at the feet of George Lucas. Good article, hope you can get hold of it.

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It's not Lucas fault that Williams' score was so mediocre. After hearing what he wrote for the new movie it's no surprise that the filmaker has chosen to temp-track music from EPISODE 1 - which was a worst movie, but with a superior score.

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And what the hell was that Tan Dun's CROUCHING TIGER... rip-off on the Chase Through Coruscant cue?? Not only was cheesy but also had nothing to do with the scene!

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