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Topic: "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets" - Music Info
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Crono/Kyp
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hehehehe (yeah, fanfare please, the seeker is back  ) http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/174/living/An_enduring_love_for_music_movies+.shtml --Seeker [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 06-24-2002]
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posted 06-24-2002 10:14 AM PT (US) ip
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dgoldwas
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Yeah, Ross should do a great job - I look forward to hearing what he does!Dan
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posted 06-24-2002 10:16 AM PT (US) ip
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Jeron
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Ah, validation feels sooooo good. Anyone ever watch Will and Grace? "I told ya so! I told ya so! I told ya so!"
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posted 06-24-2002 10:45 AM PT (US) ip
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jeffy
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I don't know how to respond to the William Ross thing. It's troubling and comforting at the same time.
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posted 06-24-2002 10:48 AM PT (US) ip
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Jeron
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I'm ecstatic about William Ross doing the music. He's more than capable... and I think he may very well write just as good, if not a better score for the film than Williams did for the first. Of course, it helps that Maestro Williams is contributing some to Ross' task.Jeron
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posted 06-24-2002 10:53 AM PT (US) ip
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Crono/Kyp
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Jer, yeah, so you did, thanks buddy  ::wink, wink:: And I totally agree. Ross will bring a fresh look at Williams themes for "Potter" Williams die hards, this IS good news. --Bri [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 06-24-2002]
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posted 06-24-2002 10:54 AM PT (US) ip
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James
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That's fantastic. Ross will do a tremendous job, and it'll probably get him more attention as a composer, too. Very good things are happening.Kirk
NP - The Eye and the Pyramid (Don Davis, *****)
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posted 06-24-2002 11:34 AM PT (US) ip
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Dinko
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As I previously said elsewhere:WOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOO! Best news of the millenium.
William Ross co-scores a potential blockbuster.
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posted 06-24-2002 04:45 PM PT (US) ip
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monkey
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Well, interesting to say the least, but Ross has never properly impressed me, his T-Rex score was just a re-hash of Silvestri material and very uninspring stuff and that Panda film was a combination of Snow`s Born in the Wild and JNH action music. But then again he might do a good job.
Or on the other hand bring on the afore- mentioned Doyle NOW, or if he can`t do it, Broughton, Davis etc. Or what about Mark Mothersbaugh? [Message edited by monkey on 06-27-2002]
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posted 06-24-2002 05:11 PM PT (US) ip
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monkey
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Or Mark McKenzie, just have a listen to Dr. Jekyll or Ms Hyde!
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posted 06-24-2002 05:12 PM PT (US) ip
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Christopher
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W. Ross is all fine and dandy...but when will someone give journeyman orchestrator, Conrad Pope a shot?I mean, the name "Williams Ross" isn't going to sell a whole bunch more than the name "Conrad Pope"...it will be the "THEMES BY JOHN WILLIAMS" that will sell. (no disrespect to Mr. Ross).
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posted 06-24-2002 05:27 PM PT (US) ip
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Dinko
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Damn Pope supporters... (PS: Pavilion of Women still sounds like wall paper)
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posted 06-24-2002 06:21 PM PT (US) ip
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Mark Olivarez
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Can't say that I'm too enthused about this news but 40 mins of Williams is better than most stuff that gets passed off as film scores these days. I guess the bright side is at least he will be involved unlike other sequels (Superman II) so maybe it will work out.
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posted 06-25-2002 06:21 AM PT (US) ip
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Shaun Rutherford
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But WHO picked WILLIAM ROSS?Shaun
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posted 06-25-2002 09:12 AM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig
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quote:
Originally posted by Crono/Kyp:
Williams die hards, this IS good news.
Tell me why? I don't know Ross, but so far, I haven't heard a score HALF written by Williams. Considering that we'd all assumed he was going to do the whole thing, and considering I've never heard of that Ross guy, I'm afraid I'm tempted to classify this as the fourth Unforgivable Curse. 
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posted 06-25-2002 09:24 AM PT (US) ip
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dgoldwas
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I like William Ross's stuff, from what I've heard (which admittedly hasn't been too much), so I'm rather curious to see how he'll do with POTTER. And it's certainly a GREAT opportunity for him.But Brian, how is that "good news for Williams fans"? Please explain. And maybe someone with a little more knowledge (you know who you are) can chime in as to HOW Ross was picked? I'm curious about that myself. Dan
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posted 06-25-2002 09:29 AM PT (US) ip
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Jeron
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I'm gonna put together a little William Ross suite for the non-believers. Expect a link soon.Jeron
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posted 06-25-2002 10:59 AM PT (US) ip
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Crono/Kyp
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What I ment by good news is that it's not like James Horner coming in. Meaning that it's not the end of the world.Marian, this is not an Unforgivable Curse, believe me on this one ok? --Brian
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posted 06-25-2002 12:26 PM PT (US) ip
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Jeron
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Here's my William Ross Taste Tester, for anyone interested.Jeron
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posted 06-25-2002 12:46 PM PT (US) ip
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Dinko
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quote:
Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
Tell me why? I don't know Ross, but so far, I haven't heard a score HALF written by Williams. Considering that we'd all assumed he was going to do the whole thing, and considering I've never heard of that Ross guy, I'm afraid I'm tempted to classify this as the fourth Unforgivable Curse.
Ok. Here's why: 1) Ross knows how to compose for full symphony orchestra. He ain't no second rate HansZinzer wannabe. His music is full, fluid and complete, without being overcomposed and overorchestrated. 2) He's versatile. Whatever fits the movie, Ross-dude does. From the great but so short tango in Tin Cup, to the arrangement of Rossini's William Tell Overture in The Little Rascals, to imitations of Chinese music in The Amazing Panda Adventure (chinese music which was much more convincing than what Pope did on Pavilion of Women, by the way ), electric guitars, country style, horror... anything and everything is done appropriately. Sometimes his gimmicks are a little cliché, but they are so well done, you just can't hold it against him. 3) No wall paper background noise. Most of Ross' music is not necessarily based on themes, but it is almost always interesting, or memorable. It rarely falls into wall paper scoring or cheap mickey mousing. It's always nice music, whatever the style of the music or the mood it carries. 4) MC Jeron's Suite and Themes.
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posted 06-25-2002 01:18 PM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig
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Good points of course, and Jeron's MP3 sounds (current playing index: 2:50) quite fantastic.But that simply doesn't convince me that a hybrid score halfly (is that a word?) written by Williams is a good idea. NP: Amazing Ross MP3
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posted 06-25-2002 02:37 PM PT (US) ip
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Mark Olivarez
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According to the message board over at JWFan.net one of the guys e-mailed Richard Dyer of the Boston Globe and he responded back saying Ken Wannaberg told him Williams simply did not have enough time between Minority Report and Catch Me If You Can (Speilberg's next film due around Christmas?) to do a full score.
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posted 06-26-2002 07:42 AM PT (US) ip
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Morn
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quote:
Originally posted by Jeron:
Here's my William Ross Taste Tester, for anyone interested.Jeron
Do you mind if I show this url in the Jwfan message board?
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posted 06-26-2002 07:53 AM PT (US) ip
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Morn
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quote:
Originally posted by Dinko:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
[b]Tell me why? I don't know Ross, but so far, I haven't heard a score HALF written by Williams. Considering that we'd all assumed he was going to do the whole thing, and considering I've never heard of that Ross guy, I'm afraid I'm tempted to classify this as the fourth Unforgivable Curse. <HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>Ok. Here's why: 1) Ross knows how to compose for full symphony orchestra. He ain't no second rate HansZinzer wannabe. His music is full, fluid and complete, without being overcomposed and overorchestrated.
What do you mean? Who do you think overorchestrates and over composes?
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posted 06-26-2002 07:54 AM PT (US) ip
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Dinko
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Alex North, Max Steiner and occasionally Shostakovich were the ones I was primarily thinking of.
"Too many notes not enough rests", too many musical lines, too many different instruments playing different parts simultaneously.Not all the time of course. But from what I have heard, I think Steiner and North had a tendency for the excessive.
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posted 06-26-2002 12:52 PM PT (US) ip
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Morn
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But... that's what I love about North!
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posted 06-26-2002 01:14 PM PT (US) ip
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Dinko
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That why you are you, and I am I. 
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posted 06-26-2002 05:55 PM PT (US) ip
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Crono/Kyp
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Update from Rich at Jwfan.net:<<John Williams' music editor Ken Wannberg told Boston Globe reporter Richard Dyer that Williams "simply didn't have enough time between finishing Minority Report and starting on Catch Me if You Can." He said that "it hasn't been determined yet whether Williams would be conducting the soundtrack recording." Wannberg also added that Williams is in very good shape: "He's doing his exercises and feels good and doesn't see any reason not to keep a full schedule. He does love his work, God love him.">> --Brian NP: Life as a House [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 06-26-2002]
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posted 06-26-2002 11:50 PM PT (US) ip
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Kris
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I've been waiting for William Ross getting a break. This might be it!
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posted 06-27-2002 12:51 AM PT (US) ip
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