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jeffy

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From Chris Garcia, the film critic at The Austin (Texas) American-Statesman:"Minority Report," which works brilliantly as a slick future thrill ride, is a half effort, a poke at noir. The filmmaker demonstrates no stomach for the genre's ink-black shades. He warms its frigid psychological palette with his cuddly thematic obsession, children and the family unit, and typically encourages the free-range assault of John Williams' musical tidal waves. (If Spielberg was half as courageous an artist he thinks he is, he would lose career collaborator Williams for a composer who knows the power of omission.)
Obviously, he's never seen Schindler's List or Saving Private Ryan.
posted 06-24-2002 09:39 AM PT (US) 
dgoldwas

Goldmember

These guys crack me up!
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/MinorityReport-1113879/reviews.php?critic=rottenDan
posted 06-24-2002 09:49 AM PT (US) 
mlw
Goldmember

That snippet is hilarious considering the movie has all the required hardboiled noir shadings as a starting point, then has a bunch of characters seeking release or absolution or just relief from the sterility and locked-down choices they live by. To my limited thinking it's a step beyond the obvious sentimentality of saying "look how cynical we are" which is always a cover to hide something from everyone anyway.
posted 06-24-2002 10:53 AM PT (US) 
Mark Olivarez

Goldmember

Well Austin is in my neck of the woods and the Austin paper isn't too highly thought of. So anything they write doesn't hold much ground with people here.
posted 06-24-2002 11:34 AM PT (US) 
PeterK

FishChip

quote:
Originally posted by jeffy:
From Chris Garcia, the film critic at The Austin (Texas) American-Statesman:(If Spielberg was half as courageous an artist he thinks he is, he would lose career collaborator Williams for a composer who knows the power of omission.)
I like this sentiment, because I currently feel the same way. Sure, it may be blashpemy to call out Spielberg's laziness when it comes to composers, but dang, a fresh squeeze of something else would be very interesting. The Spielberg scores of "yor" are and always will be awesome, no question, but lately I've been slightly turned off. I don't know why I feel this way, but I do. There are excellent moments in Minority Report, but it's too much of an effort to wade through the massive drone to find it. The CD album is way too long for my tastes.Please don't read this the wrong way, these are simply my vibes from the stuff at the moment.
posted 06-24-2002 12:19 PM PT (US) 
Widescreen
Goldmember

While I agree the album's a little on the long side, it still has at least five tracks I can't stop listening over and over again without hesitation, the same response I gave to Episode II. This is some of Williams' most listenable work.Spielberg has mixed it up before, though. While It's noted that Williams has done every film he's made- it's technically not true on two counts:
The Color Purple- the music was handled by Quincy Jones which was a sensible and perfect choice.
Twilight Zone: the Movie- he directed the vignette "Kick The Can" as well as serving in Executive Producer duties. The music was, it goes without saying for here, handled by Goldsmith.
It's possible in the future that there may be changes- unfortunately, both men are aging (another fact that goes without saying), and at some point, Spielberg may need to have a different collaborator rather than want.
The formula maybe getting stale for some folks- but that's why I recommend you not get EVERYTHING these two have done together. A couple, sure, but not all of it. There's no way things can ever be like E.T. or Raiders- and thank god, I'd rather those, despite sequels in respect to Raiders, be unique to themselves.
My only caveat about Minority Report is the lack of a synthesized piece somewhere in the score. It's the future: I personally perfer the sounds like we get in Runaway or Blade Runner- or even the blend in Total Recall. But Minority Report isn't these movies- and thank god, because it is just fantastic on it's own. The ending could've been cut back a bit or tweaked to show resolutions for characters in different ways- but nonetheless, I haven't had this much fun at a Spielberg movie in a LONG TIME.
posted 06-24-2002 01:55 PM PT (US) 
jeffy

Goldmember

quote:
Originally posted by Widescreen:
My only caveat about Minority Report is the lack of a synthesized piece somewhere in the score. It's the future: I personally perfer the sounds like we get in Runaway or Blade Runner- or even the blend in Total Recall. But Minority Report isn't these movies- and thank god, because it is just fantastic on it's own. The ending could've been cut back a bit or tweaked to show resolutions for characters in different ways- but nonetheless, I haven't had this much fun at a Spielberg movie in a LONG TIME.Me too. I think Jurassic Park was the last one where I had unbridled fun (i haven't used the word "unbridled" in a long time!).
Anyway, I just wanted to point out something you may have missed, Widescreen. The point of the score was to reference the past, namely the film noirs of Hitchcock that used very black-and-white shades to score scenes. To use synth would be breaking this premise (though there are small bits of electronics in the score, it's not like "The Moon Rising" from A.I.).
Finally, I bet there's about 120 minutes of original score in the film. I'd listen to 120 minutes of Minority Report, small moments of drone and all, than 120 minutes of Attack of the Clones, "Chase Through Coruscant" and all.
posted 06-24-2002 02:04 PM PT (US) 
Widescreen
Goldmember

Jeffy,I definitely got that noir reference, it was easy to hear in the score, and with the liner notes addressing it- I would've been clueless not to have figured it out. I can appreciate that- but I still think if you make a movie in the future, it would be a little more prudent to have something that might fit in the form of what you might hear in the future. But I guess that's why terms like "Retro" are prevalent.

posted 06-25-2002 06:06 AM PT (US) 
Morn

Minimember

Synthized? Synth of that type will become very dated in the future. Something that is modern orchestral I think is much more futuristic than a synth score.
posted 06-25-2002 07:48 AM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
