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    Topic:   Goldenthal....again!

     Kyriacos S
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    I like the fact that when we look at a Goldenthal score, we often see "Adagio"(Alien 3); We see titles such as "Agitato Dolorosa," "Scytheoplicity"(In Dreams), "Toccata and Dreamscapes," "Music for Dialogues" (Final Fantasy), and countless other examples.
    I like those different titles, not only because they "sound" cool but also because they present a certain degree of creativity from the composer's part. I'm not saying that i don't like the traditional way of naming cues, i just like the fact that Goldenthal paints his music with creative titles, as much as he paints pictures with his creative music.

    Do you guys know any other composers who do that with their music or is this only a Goldenthal trademark?(i don't doubt it; i'm just interested in finding more about other composers' work on the aforementioned topic).

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    Kyri

    [Message edited by Kyriacos S on 06-20-2002]

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    posted 06-20-2002 01:57 AM PT (US)     

     sean
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    I always found these titles pretentious. His music is excellent, but those films you mentioned (Alien 3, In Dreams, and Final Fantasy) all suck, IMO, so I see no reason why he should make it sound like he's writing a symphony or opera of epic proportions. It just looks like he's trying to sound really sophisticated.

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    posted 06-20-2002 05:02 AM PT (US)     

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    I think his titles are brilliant. For once, here's a guy who dares to admit that film music has a completely separate life on CD, and reflects that in his completely film-separated track titles. Way to go, Elliot!!

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    posted 06-20-2002 05:20 AM PT (US)     

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    Goldenthal's track titles often reflect his approach to film music.

    The titles on Batman Forever are hilarious.
    On other occasions they are more serious.
    But always different.

    And through his titles he also aknowledges his musical references to (R.) Strauss (and others?).

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    posted 06-20-2002 06:17 AM PT (US)     

     Kyriacos S
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Dinko:
    [B]

    The titles on Batman Forever are hilarious.
    B]



    Here are my favorite titles:
    -FLEDERMAUSMARCHMUSIK
    -NYGMA VARIATIONS(AN ODE TO SCIENCE)
    -GOTHAM CITY BOOGIE(quite inventive title AND music-really sounds like a Gotham Boogie-absolute MAYHEM!)
    -TWO-FACE THREE STEP

    k



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    posted 06-20-2002 06:26 AM PT (US)     

     monkey
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    Demolition Man: Obligatory car chase

    Chris Young has the best titles ever:
    Milky Way Breasts in Species
    Plus the composer references in the tiles are always interesting

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    posted 06-20-2002 06:47 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    And don't forget Christopher Young.

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    posted 06-20-2002 08:04 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
    And don't forget Christopher Young.

    Yeah, that's what the post right above yours did.

    I think Don Davis' track titles on BOUND are quite amusing, considering the film.....

    Dan

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    posted 06-20-2002 08:29 AM PT (US)     

     Kyriacos S
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    quote:
    Originally posted by dgoldwas:
    <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
    [b]And don't forget Christopher Young.
    <HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

    Yeah, that's what the post right above yours did.

    I think Don Davis' track titles on BOUND are quite amusing, considering the film.....

    Dan[/B]



    I don't have the score...can you mention some of the ones you found interesting?

    k

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    posted 06-20-2002 08:33 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Kyriacos S:
    I don't have the score...can you mention some of the ones you found interesting?

    Like.... any of them. Here are a few.

    1. Closet Driving (2:49)
    2. Fix My Pipe (5:43)
    3. Rug Rangers Qu'est-ce Que C-est (2:23)
    5. Ravine Cuisine (4:37)
    6. Yodelling in the Canyon (2:38)
    7. Girls Having Fun (2:39)
    8. Ceasar Gets Corked (1:42)
    9. Thelma and Louise from Hell (1:26)
    10. Tang Bangers (5:21)
    14. Jail Bait (0:53)
    16. Corky's Peephole (1:07)
    19. In Utero Morituri Te Salutamus (1:21)
    20. Girl Talk (0:32)
    21. Bang the Bangers (2:03)
    22. Out of the Closet and Down the Stairs (6:41)

    Dan

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    posted 06-20-2002 08:47 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    quote:
    Yeah, that's what the post right above yours did.

    Hmmm...

    quote:
    I think Don Davis' track titles on BOUND are quite amusing, considering the film.....

    True. Very fine score, too. I kinda like how he incorporated Herrmann's North by Northwest in one or two cues, also considering the film.

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    posted 06-20-2002 02:39 PM PT (US)     

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    True, I think Goldenthal and Davis are the best when it comes to imaginative track titles. I'm not into Young, so I don't know about him....

    But yeah, some German titles for BATMAN FOREVER to denote the Wagnerian style, some hilarious titles for the cheesy DEMOLITION MAN... I just love Goldenthal's music and the fact that he spends some time on naming the tracks.

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    posted 06-20-2002 04:21 PM PT (US)     

     Graham Watt
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    Some of those Goldenthal titles do indeeed sound a bit pretentious, but what do you expect from someone who wears black suits and never smiles in photos?

    Jerry Goldsmith's track titles, on the other hand, evoke heart-on-sleeve simplicity. And there's usually one which begins "No" or "First" (No Water, No Air, No Balloons, First Flight, First Kiss, First Whatever). Oh, and there's always one which begins "A New..."

    Thomas Newman is a pervert, obviously. From THE GREEN MILE there's "Billy-Be-Frigged" and "Shine My Knob".

    Chris Young has some funny titles out too.

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    posted 06-23-2002 09:50 AM PT (US)     

     Richard Street
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Graham Watt:
    Jerry Goldsmith's track titles, on the other hand, evoke heart-on-sleeve simplicity. And there's usually one which begins "No" or "First" (No Water, No Air, No Balloons, First Flight, First Kiss, First Whatever). Oh, and there's always one which begins "A New..."

    Most of Jerry Goldsmith's track titles are pretty bland, with the sole exception of LINK. Tracks are called Main Link, Missing Link, Angry Link, End Link and so on.

    NP: DAY OF THE DEAD (John Harrison). Not sure it works with the sound effects on it, really.


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