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metaphor123

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NP:Justin Caine Burnett's 'Dungeons and Dragons'I would bet a weeks wages that if this very same score had been used on a hit film (say, Lord of the Rings), it would have been hailed as magnificent and won the Oscar in a second.
As it is, however, it is shackled to a much less succesful film. I do realise that it is a score and so is inevitably tied to the film, but it is far, far superior to the score for one of the century's most hideously overrated films, Ridley Scott's plagiarised, self-serving, pompous, soulless and utterly insulting 'Gladiator'. The soundtrack to Dungeons got moderate reviews when it deserved rave ones. I can't imagine it sold very well either.
Anyone who has not heard it, do yourself a favour and download 'Resurrection/End Titles' from Dungeons and Dragons then go out and buy the album.
Scores in similar situations:
Christopher Young's haunting score for 'Flowers in the Attic'
J. Peter Robinson's 'Wes Craven's New Nightmare'
What other scores have been largely ignored because the film they came from flopped or was critically panned?
posted 06-09-2002 10:32 PM PT (US) 
David Maxx

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*I KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER (John Debney)
*URBAN LEGENDS: FINAL CUT (John Ottman)
*FRIDAY THE 13TH PARTS 1-6 & 8 (Harry Manfredini/Fred Mollin)
*JEEPERS CREEPERS (Bennett Salvay)
*CLUE (John Morris)
*SPACEBALLS (John Morris)
MRS. DOUBTFIRE (Howard Shore)
*THE MONSTER SQUAD (Bruce Broughton)
*Countless David Newman scores!
posted 06-09-2002 11:04 PM PT (US) 
TimT

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Are you telling me Dungeon and Dragons is better than Gladiator? Hmmm I don't know about that. Last I heard D&D was slightly below adverage. Gladiator broke no new grounds, but it was emotionally moving at least. But I'll listen to both of them agian.But anyway on with your topic. I'd have to say Christopher Gordon's score to On the Beach, Yor: Hunter from the Future, by John Scott, and Hellraiser III by Randy Miller. Of coarse there are more, but I'm too tired right now to think that deeply.
posted 06-09-2002 11:05 PM PT (US) 
TimT

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quote:
Originally posted by David Maxx:
*I KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER (John Debney)
*URBAN LEGENDS: FINAL CUT (John Ottman)
*FRIDAY THE 13TH PARTS 1-6 & 8 (Harry Manfredini/Fred Mollin)
*JEEPERS CREEPERS (Bennett Salvay)*
*CLUE (John Morris)
*SPACEBALLS (John Morris)
MRS. DOUBTFIRE (Howard Shore)
*THE MONSTER SQUAD (Bruce Broughton)
*Countless David Newman scores!
Hmm now I don't know about most of these. I remember many disscussions and request for Debney's Last Summer score.
And Ottman's Final Cut got some decent reviews and feedback. And I remember it was much anticipated before its release. And the same goes for Jeepers Creepers and Spaceballs.
.posted 06-09-2002 11:11 PM PT (US) 
metaphor123

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quote:
Originally posted by TimT:
[B]Are you telling me Dungeon and Dragons is better than Gladiator? Hmmm I don't know about that. Last I heard D&D was slightly below adverage. Gladiator broke no new grounds, but it was emotionally moving at least. But I'll listen to both of them agian.
B]If you are talking about scores, then I think D & D has the edge over Gladiator; if you are talking films, well, I think my position on Gladiator has been made clear. D & D is certainly no modern classic as a film, but it doesn't have the delusions of grandeur that Gladiator has.
posted 06-09-2002 11:35 PM PT (US) 
metaphor123

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quote:
Originally posted by David Maxx:
*I KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER (John Debney)
*URBAN LEGENDS: FINAL CUT (John Ottman)
*FRIDAY THE 13TH PARTS 1-6 & 8 (Harry Manfredini/Fred Mollin)
*JEEPERS CREEPERS (Bennett Salvay)
*CLUE (John Morris)
*SPACEBALLS (John Morris)
MRS. DOUBTFIRE (Howard Shore)
*THE MONSTER SQUAD (Bruce Broughton)
*Countless David Newman scores!Hmm.....is it just me, or do the scores to the Friday the 13th films sound more like a sound effect than a true score? Or is this part of its appropriateness?
I don't remember Mrs Doubtfire or Last Summer being particularly notable but I'll have to check them out.
posted 06-09-2002 11:38 PM PT (US) 
Dylan

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Ghoulies- Richard Band and Shirley Walker
The Dungeonmaster- Richard Band and Shirley Walker
Ghost Warrior- Richard Band
The Day Time Ended- Richard Band
The Alchemist- Richard Band
The House on Sorority Row- Richard Band
Mutant- Richard Band
It’s Alive 3: Island of Alive- Laurie Johnson and Bernard Herrmannposted 06-10-2002 07:17 AM PT (US) 
Philipp

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Narrow Margin by Bruce Broughton. The movie is very good indeed, but I think it didn´t make very well at the box office. But the score by Broughton is his best thriller score ever !!! And it never got the proper release it deserves ! Shame,shame,shame,shame...Philipp
posted 06-10-2002 07:19 AM PT (US) 
mtodd
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Going up the culture notch a bit, how 'bout SOMETHING WILD (1961) with a landmark score by Copland, which pre-dates similar scores such as Fantastic Voyage, Planet of the Apes and The Illustrated Man.The film was a boxoffice flop, and the studio buried it, and refused a score release...even though it should have been an Oscar winner.
Last year I met with the director and there was much talk and hopes and plots began to develop...
Mark
posted 06-10-2002 08:22 AM PT (US) 
David Maxx

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quote:
Originally posted by metaphor123:
Hmm.....is it just me, or do the scores to the Friday the 13th films sound more like a sound effect than a true score.I guess you haven't heard THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE by Tobe Hooper and Wayne Bell. I could perform it live by just spilling a bunch of pots and pans on my kitchen floor.
[Message edited by David Maxx on 06-11-2002]
posted 06-11-2002 06:57 PM PT (US) 
David Maxx

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quote:
Hmm now I don't know about most of these. I remember many disscussions and request for Debney's Last Summer score.
And Ottman's Final Cut got some decent reviews and feedback. And I remember it was much anticipated before its release. And the same goes for Jeepers Creepers and Spaceballs.I was referring to underrated scores that don't gain as much respect as STAR WARS, TITANIC, LORD OF THE RINGS, and TOTAL RECALL.
posted 06-11-2002 07:06 PM PT (US) 
MillsSomerset
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Chris Young's MURDER IN THE FIRST and FLOWERS IN THE ATTIC.Hummie Mann's YEAR OF THE COMET.
Goldsmith's LEVIATHAN.
Trevor Jones' HIDEAWAY and DESPERATE MEASURES.
I'd totally agree on Ottman's stuff (BUBBLE BOY's a recent oddball fave) and Debney's I KNOW WHAT YOU DID score, great score.
FINAL DESTINATION, if that hasn't been mentioned already.
David Newman's GROSS ANATOMY and MY FATHER, THE HERO and some of his other random 90's Disney comedy/drama stuff.
posted 06-12-2002 12:13 PM PT (US) 
Taylor
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Remo Williams by Craig Safan (or did I mix up the composer?)!!!!!Link by Jerry Goldsmith
Devil's Brigade by Alex North
Beastmaster bY Lee Holdridge
Pit & The Pendulum by Richard Band
Tourist Trap & The Howling by Pino Donaggio
Dragonslayer by Alex North
Eight Men Out by Mason Daring
posted 06-12-2002 04:51 PM PT (US) 
jburrows
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Let's not forget scores by Shirley Walker. I know someone mentioned Final Destination, but the first that comes to mind is Batman:Mask of the Phantasm.
Another composer that seems to get the hind end of all exposure is Joel McNeely, I don't know what it will take to actually get people to mention his name off hand when discusing film music. Anyway, I'm sure there are many more that I could mention, but these two get passed up alot.*Another question, What ever happened to Brad Fidel? (Terminator, True Lies) Either he no longer does film scores or just gets passed up entirely these days.
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