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Widescreen Oscar® Winner	1. If We Could Remember - Yolanda Adams 2. Mission, The - Shana Blake Hill 3. Bomb, The 4. That Went Well 5. Clear The Stadium 6. If We Get Through This - Tabitha Fair 7. Deal, The 8. Changes 9. Snap Count 10. His Name Is Olson 11. Nessun Dorma(from "Turnadot")-Bruce Sledge 12. Deserted Lab 13. Real Time 14. How Close? 15. Same Air, The 16. If We Could Remember - (Reprise) Music (of course) by Jerry Goldsmith
posted 05-14-2002 02:02 PM PT (US)

John F Oscar® Winner	Well, a little dissapointed here... I can do without those meaningless vocals... damn. Could have been 4 more score cues....Who would ever think a Goldsmith action score and pop songs would complement each other??? I will NEVER understand the soundtrack business and there wacky decision-making... JohnF
posted 05-14-2002 02:11 PM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by John F: I will NEVER understand the soundtrack business and there wacky decision-making... JohnF Yeah - something to do with "money" and "what sells"..... Wacky stuff indeed!! Dan
posted 05-14-2002 02:46 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	At least "If We Could Remember" is by Jerry!! We haven't heard a song by him in a long time! This'll be a good CD, I'm sure.
posted 05-14-2002 03:10 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by John F: Who would ever think a Goldsmith action score and pop songs would complement each other??? And John, you gotta get your facts straight. This isn't an action score. It's a political/suspense thriller w/ moments of action. If you're expecting wall-to-wall Goldsmith bombast in the tradition of Air Force One, you'll be sorely disappointed.
posted 05-14-2002 03:13 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	Looks good. But whey do they have to spread the songs across the album...? NP: Anton Bruckner: Organ works (Erwin Horn)
posted 05-14-2002 03:37 PM PT (US)

Philipp Oscar® Winner	HURRAY Philipp np: out of africa (john barry)
posted 05-14-2002 03:39 PM PT (US)

David Maxx Oscar® Winner	I am kind of relieved. I was afraid it was going to be like that SHADOW album with very few cues [and] adding up to less than 30 minutes of score, while the rest of the disc space was taken up by those crummy songs. I am so adding S.O.A.F. to my collection! [Message edited by David Maxx on 05-14-2002]
posted 05-14-2002 03:39 PM PT (US)

Dinko Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Marian Schedenig: Looks good. But whey do they have to spread the songs across the album...? To make the rest of the album less boring to people who do not like that "instrumental new age background music".
posted 05-14-2002 07:09 PM PT (US)

miss tonya Oscar® Winner	How long is Goldsmith's score on the CD(Including his song)? PUH-LEASE tell me it's going to be longer than 30 minutes!!!!
posted 05-14-2002 09:32 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Dinko: To make the rest of the album less boring to people who do not like that "instrumental new age background music". But why force those poor people to play that "instrumental new age background music" if they can't program their CD players.
posted 05-15-2002 05:39 AM PT (US)

justin boggan Oscar® Winner	They want us not to trade bootleg music, but when they do something like this, aren't they controdicting themselves? I complete score to this will emerge and people will get that because it'll have lots more score nad no crappy songs. It's sh!t like this that makes bootlegs enevitable.
posted 05-15-2002 06:38 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	Justin, Try to think about the logistics of it before running off like that. THE SUM OF ALL FEARS was recorded with a union orchestra and choir in Los Angeles. Quite simply, it would be a VERY VERY EXPENSIVE album to release the "complete score". And they would probably never recoupe their costs if they did that. By putting songs and score on the album, it makes it a little more marketable to the general public, which means the album has more of a chance of making its money back. Dan
posted 05-15-2002 06:57 AM PT (US)

justin boggan Oscar® Winner	Logistics piss me off. This score is being praised by Goldsmith fans so far and they haven't even heard it yet. If it sells well, they should think about a limited release of the complete score. Like 3,00 copies. With posts at all the major trading boards... they would kill.
posted 05-15-2002 07:08 AM PT (US)

Widescreen Oscar® Winner	And additionally, you get 11 score tracks to four songs- one of them I think is a Russian or foriegn hymn, I'm not sure- Dan or Jeron would have better info on that than I. But more importantly, the song written by Jerry with lyrics by Paul Williams is recorded by Yolanda Adams, who is a an R&B/Gospel vocalist for Elektra. She has an incredible voice by virtue of the website I saw for her, and she'll sell the song. Plus the fact that at least the songs they include are IN THE MOVIE, as opposed to the poorly constructed (though somewhat enjoyable) Spider-Man songs album. 6 tracks of it in the movie, 13 not, 13 spaces that could have been filled by score as it is. It would have made more sense as an album- but, unfortunately, not as a piece of business. That's showbiz for you- all about the almighty dollar. But, hey, it's Goldsmith, and we get another album. Let's count our lucky stars!
posted 05-15-2002 07:11 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by justin boggan: If it sells well, they should think about a limited release of the complete score. Like 3,00 copies. With posts at all the major trading boards... they would kill. There are SO many other scores that are deserving an expanded/complete release before SUM OF ALL FEARS..... Dan
posted 05-15-2002 08:31 AM PT (US)

SBD Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by dgoldwas: There are SO many other scores that are deserving an expanded/complete release before SUM OF ALL FEARS..... Dan Yeah, like SMALL SOLDIERS and THE SHADOW. All right, boys and girls: who else would like longer versions of these scores? I know I would!
posted 05-15-2002 02:03 PM PT (US)

HAL 2000 Oscar® Winner	MARK HATFIELD. Do any of those cue titles look like it could be the montage music you've been talking about?
posted 05-15-2002 03:10 PM PT (US)

David Maxx Oscar® Winner	Originally posted by justin boggan: They want us not to trade bootleg music, but when they do something like this, aren't they controdicting themselves? A complete score to this will emerge and people will get that because it'll have lots more score andd no crappy songs. It's **** like this that makes bootlegs inevitable. I agree completely! That is why some CD companies and the AFM insisted that isolated scores be banned from DVDs. Yet I do not see the AFM doing anything about these ridiculous fees so the length doesn't matter. I am all for these talented musicians getting paid for their work, but why does the pay have to increase w/ every second? It seems like there is no reason for this except to annoy us fans. Think about it, a noticably big chunk of score being left off a CD makes the CD seem so crummy. That is kind of like editing a movie down to 30 minutes because of re-use fees. [Message edited by David Maxx on 05-15-2002]
posted 05-15-2002 06:04 PM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by David Maxx: That is kind of like editing a movie down to 30 minutes because of re-use fees. Huh? Umm... no.... It might be news to you, but a film score is written for the FILM - not for a soundtrack album. Dan
posted 05-15-2002 11:45 PM PT (US)

Taylor Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by dgoldwas: <BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by David Maxx: [b]That is kind of like editing a movie down to 30 minutes because of re-use fees.<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE> Huh? Umm... no.... It might be news to you, but a film score is written for the FILM - not for a soundtrack album. Dan[/B] Exactly, Dan, EXACTLY!
posted 05-16-2002 10:02 AM PT (US)

Mark Hatfield Oscar® Winner	HAL 2000 -- I don't want to send you off on a goose (or "snipe") hunt or anything, but..... If I had to guess, it would be the cue titled CLEAR THE STADIUM. I guess we'll all see when both film and score come out. I gotta tell you, though, that if that one piece of scoring DOES end up missing from the CD release, I'll be hitting the bootleg trail. Way too neato not to have. Y'all will see when it gets here.
posted 05-16-2002 11:07 AM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	quote: Originally posted by dgoldwas: Huh? Umm... no.... It might be news to you, but a film score is written for the FILM - not for a soundtrack album. Dan Who's brilliant idea was it to release film music on albums then? Egads! There is a good discussion here... I hope we find it.
posted 05-16-2002 11:37 AM PT (US)

HAL 2000 Oscar® Winner	If the songs are on there to, in some way, subsidise the choral score (which I assume is on the CD) then I welcome them. All in all there are only four songs one of which is a Goldsmith compostion. I'm not complaining. And Mark, here's to hoping that montage cue is on there as well.
posted 05-16-2002 12:29 PM PT (US)

HAL 2000 Oscar® Winner	Jerry Goldsmith On-Line http://users.computerweekly.net/jneeds/jgoldsmith-on-line.news.html reports regarding the song he composed for the movie: The score version appears over the opening credits and is an orchestral hymn with lyrics in Latin and sung by soprano Shana Blake Hill of the Los Angeles Opera. The song version appears over the end credits and is sung by Yolanda Adams, the Grammy-winning gospel/crossover artist with lyrics by Paul Williams and produced by Trevor Horn.
posted 05-16-2002 12:45 PM PT (US)

Taylor Oscar® Winner	I wish people would stop blaming the high AFM user fees for all that is evil about soundtracks. Keep in mind they did lower them AND what is wrong with an artist receiving some residuals and getting PAID for their work? I know if I performed in an orchestra that was covered by AFM, I would want my name on the credits and a nice little check from time to time for my efforts.
posted 05-16-2002 03:11 PM PT (US)

Mark Olivarez Oscar® Winner	You would think by now that some people would finally start to get the fact that you aren't going to get a full blown release of every score. I mean it is constantly talked about over and over and over on every message board. It has been explained and argued and people still can't get it thru their heads. God this re-use and complete score thing is getting old real fast. [Message edited by Mark Olivarez on 05-16-2002]
posted 05-16-2002 03:50 PM PT (US)

justin boggan Oscar® Winner	Following your logic: You would think the record companies would get it by now and release the complete score. It is talked about in every post. Mark Hatfield e-mail me tharpdevenport@hotmail.com
posted 05-16-2002 05:06 PM PT (US)

Hasta Oscar® Winner	Like record labels give a sh*t what us film music geeks have to say. I, for one, love film scores. I also don't want to have every score released be 75 minutes. Most 75 minute albums out can't hold their own, and I have no doubt in my mind 99% of the ones that aren't 75 minutes wouldn't be able to do so had they been given a longer release. I know I'm in the minority on this one, but I'd rather sit down and listen to a consistantly enjoyable 40 minute album than have to sit through 20 minutes of crap on a 70 minute release, just to get that extra 10 minutes of otherwise unreleased music.
posted 05-16-2002 05:16 PM PT (US)

jonathan_little Oscar® Winner	Yeah, but who is to say that the forty minutes on the album is the forty minutes that you or I will enjoy the most? I'd rather have seventy five minutes and make up my own mind. For scores which require limitations due to re-use fees, I'd rather have forty minutes instead of zero. I'll remind everybody that it often costs more to buy the (incomplete) film score on compact disc then it does to buy the DVD of the whole film. That is wrong.
posted 05-16-2002 06:51 PM PT (US)

jonathan_little Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Taylor: I wish people would stop blaming the high AFM user fees for all that is evil about soundtracks. Keep in mind they did lower them AND what is wrong with an artist receiving some residuals and getting PAID for their work? I know if I performed in an orchestra that was covered by AFM, I would want my name on the credits and a nice little check from time to time for my efforts. I agree the credits are a very good thing and the orchestra members sould be listed on all film score albums. The AFM has made a step in the right direction with their new re-use scale. Now it's time for the record companies to buy twice as much music or drop the price of their forty minute CDs to $10.
posted 05-16-2002 06:58 PM PT (US)

Hasta Oscar® Winner	Jonathan, in all honesty, I prefer letting somebody judge what gets on the album, making it consise and consistant, opposed to having it ALL there and letting me decide for myself. I don't want to edit every CD I own, or even worse have to skip through tracks in my car CD player. Besides, most album producers know what they're doing. I own many CD's, and very few of them are missing pieces that I can't live without. The formula as is works, and I hope it continues to stay this way. On the other hand, I totally agree w/your comment on the price oppossed to a DVD... Absurd.
posted 05-16-2002 07:06 PM PT (US)

justin boggan Oscar® Winner	BS. Who's a beeter judge at what i like, then myself. Put it all there at let me sort it out.
posted 05-16-2002 08:10 PM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by justin boggan: BS. Who's a beeter judge at what i like, then myself. Put it all there at let me sort it out. Then you need to get a job in the industry, and produce CDs - that way you'll always be happy with the product. But with your current line of thinking.... why don't they just put out all the raw footage for a movie, and let ME edit it the way _I_ like?? Dan
posted 05-17-2002 12:18 AM PT (US)

justin boggan Oscar® Winner	There's a difference- If you buy a cd with all tjhe score on it- you are the judge. You can't force any one to listen to your favorite tracks. If you edit a movie to your liking though, you force what you want to see apon everyone else. I'm trying me best not to hate you right now. You bring up an interesting point though..... waht if people were allowed to make their own personal copies of a movie? For a price they get to edit together a movie however they want for their own personal view.
posted 05-17-2002 01:28 AM PT (US)

Taylor Oscar® Winner	Yes, I see your point, but isn't the CD an extension of the composer's art? Like a rock band or a pop artist, the composer picks the best tracks, mixes and decides what he/she likes and thinks makes a great album of music. Why can't some of you give the composer his/her respect and accept this? Hasta is SO right that who wants to hear 2 second incidental tracks. When I throw on a favorite score CD, I want to hear all the killer stuff not the filler! I know I might get creamed for this, but it's like going to a restaurant and messing with the meal and then saying it sucked...you are basically insulting the chef. The composer is like the chef, hopefully giving us a nice mix of the pieces we all want with some that add to the listening experience.
posted 05-17-2002 09:45 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by justin boggan: If you buy a cd with all tjhe score on it- you are the judge. You can't force any one to listen to your favorite tracks. Right - but at the same time, you might not be getting the best PRESENTATION of that material. Can you imagine how BORING most albums would be if it were just "here's all the music - YOU decide how to edit it!" quote: If you edit a movie to your liking though, you force what you want to see apon everyone else. Yeah, and that's what the FILMMAKERS do. Just like what the COMPOSER does with his album. quote: For a price they get to edit together a movie however they want for their own personal view. Yeah.... expect that I should get PAID to edit films.... not have to pay to edit them. Dan [Message edited by dgoldwas on 05-17-2002]
posted 05-17-2002 09:54 AM PT (US)

justin boggan Oscar® Winner	You have no idea how old i am. Boaring? Then press next track. The composer really can't be the ultimate judge, for their are millions of people all with different tastes. I believe he cannot account for all of them.
posted 05-17-2002 10:03 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by justin boggan: The composer really can't be the ultimate judge, for their are millions of people all with different tastes. I believe he cannot account for all of them. No, but he certainly has more of a right to decide how HIS MUSIC is being presented than YOU do. Dan
posted 05-17-2002 10:25 AM PT (US)

jonathan_little Oscar® Winner	Nine times out of ten: Jerry Goldsmith is a horrible soundtrack producer. There. I've said it. [Message edited by jonathan_little on 05-17-2002]
posted 05-17-2002 05:18 PM PT (US)

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