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Topic: Jerry Goldsmith THE MUMMY (Very curious)

Hector J. Guzman

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This so wonderful score I've been listening to it for three years now, and I haven't seen the movie. That's a very long time. When I ever listen to it I hear a ver fun, exciting, score but never think "what scene might this music go with". So I was wondering if i should watch this Sunday showing of The Mummy on the WB. I might see it, but I'm not looking forward to it. Then again, it might be fun, I'm not sure what to think.NP. Goldsmith The Mummy Film Score
posted 05-04-2002 09:37 PM PT (US) 
Shaun Rutherford

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It's been my experience that the expectations you have for a film after hearing only Goldsmith's score are almost always trampled upon once you see what utter horse manure he had to work with.This is true,
Shaunposted 05-04-2002 09:46 PM PT (US) 
Shaun Rutherford

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Also, in my experience, if Jerry writes this stupendous line for strings during an action cue (see cue 5 on The Mummy's album), it's almost always used to score a guy running around on fire.Shaun
posted 05-04-2002 09:48 PM PT (US) 
Hector J. Guzman

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So I guess anything will be ruined by everthing or anything I see, hehehe Besides, I don't think there would be anything that would make it something I might expect, because this has been one of my all time Goldsmith favorites.
posted 05-04-2002 09:55 PM PT (US) 
James

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I like The Mummy. If you do too, then seeing it won't hurt your appreciation of the score. But if you hate it, you might be burned for a while.I have bad memories of seeking out The Alchemist after hearing Richard Band's score. Ugh, what a mistake... took months for the music to regain its mysterious beauty.
So, it's just a question of whether you're willing to take that risk.
Kirk
[Message edited by James on 05-04-2002]
posted 05-04-2002 10:03 PM PT (US) 
scoreguy16

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I think The Mummy is a fun movie with romance, action, history, drama, horror. Although Brenden Fraiser isn't your typical hero figure, he pulls off the role nicely. Yeah there are some cheesy lines and yeah not everything is perfect. But no movie is perfect. Just see it for fun.Clayton
posted 05-04-2002 10:26 PM PT (US) 
Hector J. Guzman

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Hey, James! I know what you mean, I couldn't hear John Williams' The Patriot score without thinking of the dumb, boring, crappy movie the music had been written to. I still can't, I'm trying to disasociate the film from the score.
posted 05-05-2002 12:42 AM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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Hector, don't bother. I recently watched the film, because a friend of mine persuaded me. It's not bad in a negative way (like Armageddon for example), it's just so stupid that I didn't find it good at all. Plus it's overscored. I don't blame Goldsmith - on CD, the music is great, and I'm glad there's a lot of it -, but it's too much in the film. And the editors had a talent to bury ALL the best moments under the sfx. And I don't mean that the sfx are generally that loud (though they probably are), but they're even louder during those moments.The original Mummy didn't impress me too much, but I rather enjoyed it. And it's far better than this one.
(Of course, I also made the mistake to watch Air Force One because of the score once
)NP: Mythodea (Vangelis)
posted 05-05-2002 06:21 AM PT (US) 
Gae

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You guys are way too serious!! Put up your feet, sit back, relax and have a bit of fun for a couple of hours. The film is just meant to be a Saturdy Matinee type popcorn movie so why cant people just enjoy it for what it is? Does every film have to have a political message or be serious? If I thought that, then I would never have bothered watching "Raiders of the Lost Ark"Gae NP Attack on the Iron Coast
(G. Schermann)[Message edited by Gae on 05-05-2002]
posted 05-05-2002 06:33 AM PT (US) 
John Zimmer

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What's wrong with Air Force One and The Patriot? I found them very fun movies to watch. I personally love The Patriot a perfect fit of film and score.
Air Force One some parts are dumb but overall I liked it.

Jz
posted 05-05-2002 06:34 AM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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quote:
Originally posted by John Zimmer:
What's wrong with Air Force One and The Patriot?I haven't seen the latter, but I can explain my problem with AFO: When I don't know if I like the president or the terrorists less, something must have gone wrong.
Gae: The difference is that Mummy is dumb, Raiders isn't. I do have problems with parts of Temple of Doom for the same reason. When it's too dumb, it's neither funny nor thrilling.
NP: Young Sherlock Holmes (Bruce Broughton)
posted 05-05-2002 08:22 AM PT (US) 
James

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quote:
Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
Gae: The difference is that Mummy is dumb, Raiders isn't.And see, that all goes back to the personal opinion thing. I've always found Raiders quite dumb, and in some ways much less enjoyable than The Mummy -- though that's mostly because my opinion has been tainted by so many people telling me what a masterpiece it (Raiders, not The Mummy) is.
Kirk
posted 05-05-2002 09:30 AM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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Ok, what about "lame", then.
posted 05-05-2002 09:53 AM PT (US) 
James

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Alright, you can have that one.
posted 05-05-2002 03:05 PM PT (US) 
John T

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DO NOT watch the tv broadcast. Get the dvd instead. At least it won't be in pan and scan, with commercials and god knows what other editing.
posted 05-11-2002 08:56 PM PT (US) 
Ken S

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Once in a while I am happy to agree with Kirk - I like THE MUMMY too. But mostly I find myself disagreeing with Kirk - I like the RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK too
Marian wrote:
- - "Plus it's overscored. I don't blame Goldsmith - on CD, the music is great, and I'm glad there's a lot of it -, but it's too much in the film." - -Marian, if you really mean it, then I would certainly like to know your opinion about THE MUMMY RETURNS - where an excellent composer like Alan Silvestri "overdoes" it all in a very annoying way, in my opinion.
I have always liked Universal's ORIGINAL (1932) classic THE MUMMY - because it has class, nostalgia, plus David Manners and Boris Karloff - and naturally, when I went to see the remake, I DID COMPARE it to the original one - and I loved it. In this remake the director and the screenwriters managed marvelously to update a dusty old movie monster to the contemporary audience, and yet they managed to keep the atmosphere marvelously "old-fashioned", mainly thanks to incredible actors like Brendan Fraser and Rachel Weisz. And the most important thing was that this remake was genuinely FUNNY - in a most sincere way.
Furthermore THE MUMMY was treated astonishingly much as an ANIMATED MOVIE with its caricature-characters and simple writing that made the movie so approachable for even child audiences. I think that's exactly why there's so much of Jerry Goldsmith's music - and why the music is so wonderfully "characterized", played almost continuously to keep the pure fantasy of the movie intact.
Then came the sequel. And all the class was gone - the movie still is THE most irritating I've ever seen. It was obvious they wanted a "deeper story" into this one - and yet the screenwriters didn't use any brains in writing the story. THE MUMMY was a perfect package of real suspense, horror, comedy, adventure and romance, but in this sequel all the ingredients of the package had been separated in a most obnoxious way - plus (or actually, MINUS) they had forgotten that this movie SHOULD have been SCARY... I mean that THE MUMMY didn't "soften" its horrifying sequences, but in the sequel all the so-called "horror" was obviously softened for "more younger viewers". Obviously the filmmakers wanted THE MUMMY RETURNS to be a film for even larger audiences, which meant they wooed all the possible viewers in VERY WRONG ways.
And the music - for me it was a big disappointment, because it seemed that Alan Silvestri didn't trust in his more intimate sound, thus "overdoing" all the music TOO big - I have always thought that LESS is MORE. And, as I have said in my review of the soundtrack, Silvestri keeps all the action music irritatingly SAME (just loud and noisy), whether the scene is about a bus ride in London, a desert battle, a pygmy attack, etc...
There.
Just my opinion.
I won't go into the RAIDERS unless someone asks for it

KENposted 05-14-2002 01:35 AM PT (US) 
monkey

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The Mummy Returns is a brilliant score IMO, especially in its complete form, it almost rivals Cutthroat Island in its bombastic majesty. I find the film quite amusing as well, especially the little pygmy warriors on that bridge bit.
posted 05-14-2002 06:27 AM PT (US) 
Quill
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I wonder about you guys some times...The Mummy and its sequel are 4-hours of harmless fluff that does not take itself seriously...which obviously the mistake that many people made with it.Loosen the britches a little bit...if you can't find something to smile about during these movies then something's a tad off.
posted 05-14-2002 06:58 AM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
