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Kris Oscar® Winner	I do know IMDB is not the most reliable source for composer assignments, but I still think it's a surprise that Danny Elfman shows up as the composer for Terminator 3. How did they come up with Elfman if there's no thruth about it? PS: Brad Fiedel gets the credit for the theme.
posted 04-23-2002 05:56 AM PT (US)

Dinko Oscar® Winner	My guess: someone probably "updated" the info. Once you register at the IMDB, you can submit updates and corrections about the movies. Don't know what the approval process is, but if you want you can submit an update saying James Horner is orchestrating Howard Shore's LOTR 2 music.
posted 04-23-2002 06:29 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	Latest word is actually that Hans Zimmer might be doing the score..... Until the film comes out, and there is a confirmed list of credits, the IMDb is merely a nice place that pulls together all the rumors out there..... Dan
posted 04-23-2002 06:47 AM PT (US)

Kris Oscar® Winner	In my opinion this is a movie where Hans Zimmer would be a great choice. Allthough I liked his score to Gladiator I was surprised to hear he'd be scoring. Not with T3. I mean T1 and T2 were none orchestral. I believe they should keep it that way.
posted 04-23-2002 06:53 AM PT (US)

Ace Oscar® Winner	Who knows what Zimmer would do if he scored T3. It could be a heavily synthesized score, or a combination of synths and orchestra. Whatever he decides, I'm sure it would sound great, especially if he incorporated Fiedel's theme from the previous films. Ace
posted 04-23-2002 07:41 AM PT (US)

mtodd Oscar® Winner	Isn't the composer slated to be guy who also did Mostow's U-571? I forgot his name. Mark
posted 04-23-2002 08:08 AM PT (US)

Camillu Oscar® Winner	That would be Richard Marvin. (the space modulator!?! Someone's stolen the space modulator!?!)
posted 04-23-2002 08:12 AM PT (US)

Quill Oscar® Winner	I agree--this is one project where Zimmer would be perfect! Here's looking forward to a throwback to his core action days.
posted 04-23-2002 08:46 AM PT (US)

jonathan_little Oscar® Winner	Oh my!
posted 04-23-2002 09:14 AM PT (US)

Taylor Oscar® Winner	It's Richard Marvin. FSM lists him as the composer and I believe, like most directors, Mostow wants somebody who can score to his personal liking. Marvin did a good job on U-571. Why not hire some new blood instead of the same old composers who score everything.
posted 04-23-2002 02:46 PM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Taylor: FSM lists him as the composer Didn't FSM list John Ottman as scoring X-MEN for like 2 years before the film came out - with Kamen's score? My point being, I heard Zimmer might be doing the film. It's waay too soon to say for sure either way as to WHO is scoring it, and the IMDb is notoriously wrong for the post-production aspects of films in production. Let's just wait and see. Dan
posted 04-23-2002 03:00 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Or not. FSM's current speculation on Marvin and T3 could be anyone's. Let's not "wait and see." Boring. Too safe. We're a discussion board, and if anything's going to keep this place (and our interest in movie music) alive, it's speculating on cool things to come. Marvin came and went with U571. I want to hear another one by him, and yehaaarrwww, T3 would be a perfect opportunity. Journalistic integrity isn't shot if you make an educated guess on possibilities that may or may not materialize. Journalistic spice is shot if you simply wait around until everything is said and done. Come on, throw on some cayenne.
posted 04-23-2002 03:17 PM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by PeterK: Come on, throw on some cayenne. Fair 'nuff! How about if someone like Michael Nyman scored this film? Some sort of minimalist tome with the Kronos Quartet, supplemented with synths, or something? Dan
posted 04-23-2002 03:23 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	I did say educated guesses, but whatever. Yeah, Michael Nyman. Yeah.
posted 04-23-2002 03:30 PM PT (US)

James Oscar® Winner	I had been assuming for a long time that either Poledouris or Marvin would be the top choices. Mostow did that truck movie (?? it's not often I forget a title ??) with both of them, and Marvin got the job for that film and U-571 presumably because he's Poledouris' protegee. They both seemed like equally likely choices to me. I'm really not sure how I feel about Zimmer on this one. It probably depends on whether I care about the film's existence at all, and I haven't decided about that yet. And the IMDb is completely unreliable about these things. As always, I point back to my thread about who should score Terry Gilliam's Good Omens. Two of the many composers mentioned during the course of the discussion were Richard Band and Anne Dudley, and two weeks later the IMDb said they were collaborating on it. I haven't been back there lately, but I think they still insist that John Powell is attached. Kirk
posted 04-23-2002 03:33 PM PT (US)

Dinko Oscar® Winner	Can I have Brad Fiedel back on T3?
posted 04-23-2002 04:13 PM PT (US)

Timmer Oscar® Winner	I agree with Dinko. Fiedel's scores fit both those films like a glove. Know what?...I don't have either of them! A friend of mine has T2 and I didn't bother even to make a CDR off him, it's not my idea listening experience but as I said they fit the films perfectly!
posted 04-23-2002 04:22 PM PT (US)

Mark Olivarez Oscar® Winner	You want some cayenne? How bout this film not even being made. I mean common the 2nd Terminator film grossed about 205 million domestically and the reported budget for T3 is around 180 million, plus throw in other costs a movie has and well it doesn't look like a winner. Plus Arnold is on the downside of his career and I really can't see this film grossing more than T2 did.
posted 04-23-2002 04:29 PM PT (US)

Taylor Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Mark Olivarez: You want some cayenne? How bout this film not even being made. I mean common the 2nd Terminator film grossed about 205 million domestically and the reported budget for T3 is around 180 million, plus throw in other costs a movie has and well it doesn't look like a winner. Plus Arnold is on the downside of his career and I really can't see this film grossing more than T2 did. Ask any movie suit and he will say that T2 made the bulk of it's money overseas. Schwarzenegger still packs them in other parts of the world as well. MOVIES make the majority of their cash overseas unless they are American horror or comedy films then it's more likely that the bulk of the money is made in the U.S.
posted 04-23-2002 06:14 PM PT (US)

nightwing Oscar® Winner	I agree that Fiedel should come back. I love his T2 score, they did fit perfectly.
posted 04-23-2002 08:55 PM PT (US)

Hasta Oscar® Winner	I'm one who thinks this film shouldn't even be made, but since it is, I'd choose Fiedel. I know I'm one of the only ones who likes his first two scores (both of which were really quite excellent in the films) for the Terminator series, but I still think he'd do a great job on this one as well... Plus, hey, the guy doesn't get m(any) jobs anymore. At any rate, I just don't really care, because this film sounds so unappealing to me.
posted 04-23-2002 09:08 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Dinko: Can I have Brad Fiedel back on T3? I hope so. --Brian
posted 04-23-2002 10:38 PM PT (US)

Richard Oscar® Winner	I also don't thin T3 should be made, unless Cameron writes and directs. It's going to turn into something similar to Jurassic Park III, I can feel it. Seeing it is being made though, I'd be coming back to Fidel for the job. Even though he's some sort of synth guru, it's my view that Zimmer is just WRONG for the job. ...but what do I know?
posted 04-24-2002 03:42 AM PT (US)

Richard Street Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Taylor: Ask any movie suit and he will say that T2 made the bulk of it's money overseas. Schwarzenegger still packs them in other parts of the world as well. COLLATERAL DAMAGE didn't. It didn't even open at my local cinema and it was gone from the next nearest in two weeks (and for the second week they were only showing it once a day). Given the choice, I'd want Fiedel back, if I really, really, absolutely HAD to have a TERMINATOR 3. Because if you're going to have sequels, have as much continuity between them as you can. FRIDAY THE 13TH, HALLOWEEN, POLICE ACADEMY, James Bond, the Carry Ons... though the ELM STREET series changed composer every film, but they occasionally interpolated Charles Bernstein's theme. But I never felt there even needed to be a TERMINATOR 2: it was fun while it was on, but it's not a patch on its enjoyably nasty, rough-edged predecessor. NP: THE PATRIOT (John Williams)
posted 04-24-2002 05:38 AM PT (US)

Kris Oscar® Winner	It's off-topic, but the first official picture of T3 is online: www.aint-it-cool-news.com I'm a big fan of the first two and can't wait to see this one. It must be good, otherwise they wouldn't greenlight a $180m budget.
posted 04-25-2002 03:07 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	At least they've made him look... not old. That's promising.
posted 04-25-2002 03:48 AM PT (US)

Quill Oscar® Winner	I for one welcome any new Terminator film...why not! As far as the score goes, Marvin would work too--but the original theme better not get cut. Old Arnie...young Arnie...hammy Arnie...just give me some Arnie! Ok--that sounded really lame.
posted 04-25-2002 08:32 AM PT (US)

nightwing Oscar® Winner	Is it just me or did that pic look really fake?
posted 04-25-2002 09:07 AM PT (US)

SFT Oscar® Winner	I don't think Terminator 3 would be right for Elfman. Bring back Fiedel. He did an excellent job on the two first films. SFT NP: Exsultate Justi, Williams
posted 04-25-2002 10:28 AM PT (US)

Quill Oscar® Winner	Fake as in bad production design or fake as in doctored? It looks fairly real to me--they even got old Arnie to look somewhat young again. We'll see how the makeup holds up...
posted 04-25-2002 10:45 AM PT (US)

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