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    Topic:   Please seperate score from the songs !

     Philipp
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    I just hate it, when the score is not in full swing on a cd, because you have to skip the songs everytime.

    Philipp

    np: lolita (ennio morricone)

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    posted 04-08-2002 12:39 PM PT (US)     

     jeffy
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    Especially on those damn musicals!

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    posted 04-08-2002 12:57 PM PT (US)     

     OHMSS76
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    I usually agree with this, but two examples come to mind where I like it(I'm sure there are more, sorry!)

    BUGSY by Ennio Morricone...starts with a great Johnny Mercer tune, then about 10 cues of score, then two more oldies but goodies in the middle break things up,since it's a minimalistic type of score by Ennio, and the great Jo Stafford closes everything out.

    THE RAPTURE by Thomas Newman....there are usually two score cues, then two songs or so, and the whole album alternates between the two...for me the songs are fantastic, introduced me to the world of A.C. Jobim and Elis Regina, Velvet Underground, and with the addition of these retro-trippy tunes, it creates a bizarre, fantastic atmosphere. Great album **** !!!!

    Ciao,
    Sean

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    posted 04-08-2002 01:07 PM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    Hearts in Atlantis suffers from this.

    bunch of songs everyone's heard a billion times before, with a bit of [generally outstanding] score here and there.


    NP -- The Barbarian and the Geisha, Friedhofer

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    posted 04-08-2002 01:43 PM PT (US)     

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    Yeah I was just going to mention Hearts in Atlantis also.
    I like the songs, but I wish they were apart from the score.


    NP- Icewind Dale (game soundtrack) - Jeremy Soule ****/*****

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    posted 04-08-2002 01:45 PM PT (US)     

     OHMSS76
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    Another thing that is interesting about songs mixed with score is how the score functions on its own....for Bugsy, each score cue acts as a self contained theme, and is not as specific or 'cuey' as other scores may be. So the songs don't interupt a specific narrative flow.

    The Rapture's hypnotic mix of strings, processed brass, sound efx and lonely piano cues by Newman would probably be tedious on their own...the finale brings in stronger brass figures, and is allowed to play out very nicely sans interuption. The songs mix in a bizarre dose of humanity, and the score drifts in and out of this 'normalcy'.

    I do hate when the same damned K-TEL moldies are trotted out however...if I hear that f'ing Love Is Strange by Mickey & Sylvia on another album, why I outta.....

    NP: if I was playing anything it would be THE PHANTOM(Newman)!!!

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    posted 04-08-2002 02:02 PM PT (US)     

     Hasta
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    Horner's Swing Kids, Edelman's Come See the Paradise, Goldenthal's Cobb (the jazz stuff just doesn't mix, IMO), Danna's Hearts in Atlantis (as somebody already mentioned), Horner's commercial Grinch CD, Jones' Labyrinth (which just so happens to mix wonderfully with Bowie's songs), Zimmer's Prince of Egypt (again, great songs -- most of them), T. Newman's Meet Joe Black, Zimmer's Muppet Treasure Island (again, fun songs that work), Isham's October Sky, and Revell's Red Planet to name a few...

    And yes, it sucks.

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    posted 04-08-2002 04:01 PM PT (US)     

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    I own a copy of the Apollo 13 soundtrack with songs from the 60's and 70's. I didn't know better when I bought it. Oh well.

    However, I think there are a few exceptions. For Always on A.I. I think it sounds great. It's a beautiful song that fits with the score perfectly.

    For the most part, previously released songs are annoying, but let's remember, the music companies are trying to attract more consumers

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    posted 04-08-2002 06:57 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Hasta:
    Horner's [b]Swing Kids, Edelman's Come See the Paradise, Goldenthal's Cobb (the jazz stuff just doesn't mix, IMO), Danna's Hearts in Atlantis (as somebody already mentioned), Horner's commercial Grinch CD, Jones' Labyrinth (which just so happens to mix wonderfully with Bowie's songs), Zimmer's Prince of Egypt (again, great songs -- most of them), T. Newman's Meet Joe Black, Zimmer's Muppet Treasure Island (again, fun songs that work), Isham's October Sky, and Revell's Red Planet to name a few...
    [/B]

    I would tend to agree with those examples for the most part. However, I love the current release of Red Planet and think the whole album is just about perfect. I do wish more score was included, though, as it is the score and songs mesh very well.

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    Sean Robert Abbey

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    posted 06-03-2002 04:40 AM PT (US)     

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    The Prince of Egypt really suffers from this. Although most of the songs are ver good it still is annoying that you have to skip through them all to find some score.

    Jz

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    posted 06-03-2002 04:52 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Yes, I also hate this in most cases. But there are exceptions. I could probably imagine a Back to the Future album that mixes score and songs. That is, the songs that work like a score in the film, not the source music songs - those should be put at the end of the album.

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    posted 06-03-2002 05:41 AM PT (US)     

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    Yeah, I do have to agree on Red Planet. The songs are even better than the score (though only the songs by Revell / Kaplan). Once again, I have to state my unendurable anticipation for their collaboration album. But I do wish there had been more score though, especially the massive choral stuff for the rescue scene towards the end.

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    posted 06-03-2002 05:47 AM PT (US)     

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    Too flippin right Monkey, they left the best flammin score cue off the album...most heinous!

    NP : Adoration Of Aphrodite - Rautavaara

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    posted 06-03-2002 06:15 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by John Zimmer:
    The Prince of Egypt really suffers from this. Although most of the songs are ver good it still is annoying that you have to skip through them all to find some score.

    Jz


    Hans often arrange his albums so that it will be easier to listen to. The only thing I hate about teh POE album is the inclusion of the pop music tie-in. If more scores was included then it'd be the best album of that year.

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    posted 06-03-2002 03:59 PM PT (US)     

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    Yeah, the pop versions suck arse, much like in Spirit

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    posted 06-04-2002 04:15 AM PT (US)     

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    Hey, I like all the songs in Spirit...

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    posted 06-04-2002 10:09 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by monkey:
    Yeah, I do have to agree on Red Planet. The songs are even better than the score (though only the songs by Revell / Kaplan). Once again, I have to state my unendurable anticipation for their collaboration album. But I do wish there had been more score though, especially the massive choral stuff for the rescue scene towards the end.

    Seeing, that I haven't seen the film and am only familiar with the album, I can't say what if any score cues should have been added. However, being such a fan of Revell's I'll say - "most of it"!

    Regards,
    Sean Robert Abbey

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    posted 06-15-2002 09:04 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by HadrianD:
    The only thing I hate about teh POE album is the inclusion of the pop music tie-in. If more scores was included then it'd be the best album of that year.

    The only thing I disliked about the CD was the fact there wasn't more score included. That, and the poor songs made it as such. Otherwise, if it had been a more fair share between the two I wouldn't have minded nearly as much.

    Regards,
    Sean Robert Abbey

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