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nightwing

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I'm surprised no one has been really talking about this. I went last friday with my girlfriend since it's her favorite movie and it was actually only the second time for me to see it (the first was 5 years ago, so I didn't remember most of it). I loved it so much that I keep listening to the score, unfortunately I only have the 40 minute score. I really really want to get the new release but don't have any cash. I guess I'll wait. Anyways, Speilberg recently said that he would never make this movie now because it is "too optimistic". Sounds like he is bending to Hollywood too much now and won't be the great story teller anymore that he used to be. Hence, my boycott of Minority Report on another thread. Anyways, this is a beautiful movie, a real fun time. I wish Hollywood could make more like it.
posted 04-03-2002 11:04 PM PT (US) 
Ken S

Oscar® Winner

I finally saw E.T. tonight on the big screen for the first time in my life... and, unfortunately, the result is some very mixed feelings roaming inside my head and heart. When coming out from the theatre, I was surprised not being all that "excited & touched" as I imagined to be. I was quite a lot disappointed - I always thought I'd appreciate the movie more when I would see it on the big screen, but unfortunately it felt like a very lame experience - compared even to the TRAILER itself, which has all the magic and emotion that were somehow lacking from the movie...!!!
I'm serious.In the year 1982, when I was about 7 years young, my stepmom took me to see E.T. and of this experience I don't remember anything else except that the movie's beginning was so intensely frightening that I began to cry and apparently stepmom had to take me out from the theatre (and probably she was pretty pissed off because I had spoiled her movie experience
).Then, a few years later, I finally saw E.T. on video and despite Spielberg's annoyingly-serious "family matters" in the beginning of the movie, I simply loved the fantasy, the humor, and naturally most of all, John Williams' gorgeous and emotional music. But E.T. has never been on my top ten movie list because of its "realism" which is - whether you agree with me or not - a trademark of Spielberg; just watch any of his films - there is always this SugarlandishExpressishJawsish "laziness", really "realism", is his narrative style which just has never impressed me. But now, manymany years later, when I have realized that my tastes have really changed, I thought I could finally understand Spielberg's point and his narrative style - but unfortunately NO; the movie just felt "lazy" when it could have had more sharper storytelling and MUCH more humor and wit in it... I always like movies with STRONG & touching messages, and "growing-up" stories, but E.T. really seems to be a movie with no message at all, no specific "story" at all (- well, perhaps it wasn't the movie's purpose...)
So, this night's result was that I was so disappointed with E.T. that I went to see Disney's RETURN TO NEVERLAND for second time, and again tears ran on my cheeks nearly all the time because of the wonderful, touching & soaring EMOTION and the poignant & witty MESSAGE in this marvelous PETER PAN sequel...
Thus, I have realized that Spielberg simply can't touch my grown-up heart any more - and that I have actually always felt Spielberg's films to lack something very important which appears to be the ingredient to make my heart to soar - only perhaps the COLOR PURPLE has some of this ingredient...
A pity. But thank heavens John Williams wrote his very best score for E.T. and produced his very best "album versions" album on the original soundtrack release of E.T. ...Too pity that they didn't contain these terrific melodies on the 20th Anniversary Soundtrack.
KENposted 04-04-2002 01:00 PM PT (US) 
Dan Brecher

Oscar® Winner

That deeply frustrates me if he indeed said he'd never make E.T today on the basis of it being too optimistic, it's this that makes it such a wonderful and heart warming film. To think he's possibly bowed to the cynical outlooks of Hollywood and society in general, upsets me very much...I finally saw the film tonight, for the first time theatricaly in my entire life, and it remained the truly thrilling and moving experience E.T has always been for me, more so on the big screen in fact. The experience was overwhelming.
Yet...I sat there amongst only six other people in the theatre, two of those (behind me) sniggering at every given moment. I turn to the UK Top 10 movie charts to see ET JUST manage to trickle in at number seven (whilst kids are on Easter Break no less!). I'm worried. This is one of the finest most flawless films ever made, it was one the highest grossing movie ever made, and 20 years later hardly anyone cares.

Dan
posted 04-04-2002 02:57 PM PT (US) 
Ken S

Oscar® Winner

"...it was one the highest grossing movie ever made, and 20 years later hardly anyone cares."Dan, my friend,
despite of my previous post above I still have to agree with you. The situation here in Finland seems to be exactly the same - in Helsinki's (our capital) biggest theatre "center" E.T. can be seen only on the "little" screens while such movies as ICE AGE are shown on the largest screens - and yesterday night that tiny screen theatre seemed to be as empty as you described...
But, then again, as I also realized last night - E.T. seems to be such a movie which can't stand the test of time; yes, it was a huge success 20 years ago when our world was so different - nowadays it seems that the cynics (as me
) seem to need a much DEEPER story to get exhilarated about a movie - although if I had seen E.T. as a teenager in a movie theater I would probably have been spellbound.E.T. is a pretty, simple, intimate movie, loaded with effects that were incredible 20 years ago, and I'm not saying the movie would be all "bad" - but unfortunately the nowadays people are so brainwashed with all the mummies returning, final fantasies swarming, and hobbits and wizards clashing, that such a movie as E.T. (which started another "genre" so to speak) simply doesn't have any effect on nowadays' audience who needs only bigger and more clearer emotions to get exhilarated about a movie.
KEN, who admits that E.T. is all about FRIENDSHIP (...but the narrative seems a little too anaemic...)posted 04-05-2002 12:27 AM PT (US) 
Jeron

Oscar® Winner

I dunno... I was at the 20th Anniversary Premiere, and boy was I a big cry baby through a vast majority of it. I'm not ashamed to admit that I cry in films that touch me, and ET had the tears a'rollin.Jeron
posted 04-05-2002 12:59 AM PT (US) 
Dan Brecher

Oscar® Winner

E.T never fails to make my cry like a baby. This is again part of its genius, that it can movie you again and again and again and again upon repeat viewings.There's one specific moment I love in the film. Right near the start after the montage of the creatures fondling the plant life it cuts to a wide shot up high in the trees of a lone E.T walking through the forest on his own. The music hits this eerie emotional high point that never fails to take my breath away, and the cue appears again when E.T and Elliot are near dying and Mary sees them together for the first time... So even there at the start last night I had a lump in my throat.
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nowadays it seems that the cynics (as me ) seem to need a much DEEPER story to get exhilarated about a movieOdd.. my feeling is that it's precisely what they DONT want and is mainly why they are avoiding E.T, because E.T is in fact somewhat unique and compelling in many aspects, the main one being how Elliot feels E.Ts thoughts, and feelings. This aspect of the story makes a very clever progression from the moment he first meets E.T right though to the end.
Dan
posted 04-05-2002 02:28 AM PT (US) 
Camillu

Oscar® Winner

Took my little sister to see it cos we both love it. I really enjoyed seeing it on the big screen. I also thought I'd hate the new stuff but apart from the guns thingy it was all flowing and great.The theatre attendants were (purposely?) leaving the door sopen during the end credits and it was great seeing everyone turn to see where the lovely music was coming from...
posted 04-05-2002 01:46 PM PT (US) 
André Lux

Oscar® Winner

Spielberg tried hard to destroy his masterpiece but E.T. resisted!Ok, I didn't cry like a baby like when I saw it on theaters 20 years ago (boy, I am getting old!), but it still was able to give me gosebumps, particulary at the end.
But this new "improved" version is useless. E.T. jumping like a Kangaroo at the begining was gruesome, just like puting all that CGI face upon the original one which was so perfect to star with!!!
Now, let me tell you about all that guys pointing... walk-talkies instead of guns! But worst of all was the exclusion of the scene of the shotgun-man, right before they all fligh away. That was criminal to Williams' music! The music build, builds, builds and then... nothing!

Bleargh!!! THIS is what someone should to these "politically correct" improvers...
[Message edited by André Lux on 04-05-2002]
posted 04-05-2002 02:26 PM PT (US) 
Ken S

Oscar® Winner

Although I should've been working tonight with my site, I ended up renting some videos instead...and after some ten years I finally reunited myself with the movie YOUNG SHERLOCK HOLMES. Well, not precisely a Spielberg film, but anyway this film managed to be for me a dozen times more entertaining and touching than E.T. - it really has everything to do with the fact that I like "growing up" stories, and YOUNG SHERLOCK HOLMES indeed has quite a powerful story within it; touching, poignant, and yet filled with hope and warmth - PLUS A MAGNIFICENT SCORE BY BRUCE BROUGHTON

So, tonight's video experience only made it more clearer to me that I really want to see and feel some major "development" on the characters of my favorite films - and unfortunately E.T. doesn't offer very strong development on the movie's characters...
KEN, who still doesn't hate E.T.posted 04-05-2002 02:38 PM PT (US) 
Camillu

Oscar® Winner

And how the audience is ever supposed to buy that Michael looks like a hippie is beyond me.While he was at it Spielberg could have fixed Dee Wallace's shadow whilst she's reading Peter Pan. I noticed that for the first time on the big screen.
posted 04-05-2002 02:40 PM PT (US) 
Ken S

Oscar® Winner

"But worst of all was the exclusion of the scene of the shotgun-man, right before they all fligh away. That was criminal to Williams' music! The music build, builds, builds and then... nothing!
"Glad to agree with you, Andre !!! This destroyed the most magical moment in the movie for me too !!
KEN 
posted 04-05-2002 02:42 PM PT (US) 
dgoldwas

Oscar® Winner

quote:
Originally posted by Camillu:
And how the audience is ever supposed to buy that Michael looks like a hippie is beyond me.Well, he didn't look like a terrorist either. The idea was that he wasn't allowed to go as one (even though the other kids were supposedly), so he went as a hobo.
And the changes weren't about "fixing" the film (like the shadow, as you point out).
Dan
posted 04-05-2002 03:24 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
