Your filmscore pal,
Kyri

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Originally posted by Kyriacos S:
And even though i know that my music tastes are superior than his

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Musical taste is a matter of opinion; I'm sure your roommate feels the same about HIS music when compared to yours.

In the end, you need to find a new roommate; someone who shares the same likes and dislikes as you.

If you can't find a new roommate in the meantime, try to work out your differences.

headphones

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Originally posted by dgoldwas:
Oh yeah - one word:

headphones

Dan

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I've been listening to music using headphones for a long time now, and my ears are beginning to hurt...which is bad because i'm a music major...so that's not in my options.
As far as taste is concerned...well you are right...i can't say anything about that...

Philipp

NP: THE REMAINS OF THE DAY ( RICHARD ROBBINS )

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Originally posted by dgoldwas:
In the end, you need to find a new roommate

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I think that's a bit drastic. Kyriacos, it's all about tolerance. You guys need to make a compromise as far as music volume, etc. goes. Part of the great fun of having a roommate is experiencing all the differences you guys have. Hopefully, in the end, it'll broaden your horizons. Now sure, there are bad roommate pairings... and when you're paired with a roommate where you know things just aren't going to work out, well, you just know. But it doesn't sound like that's the case. How well do you know this guy? It sounds like (to me) that you're just not confident. Stand up for what you like, dude. You're tastes aren't superior... they're just different. Having a superiority complex about what you like isn't a very good way to win someone over. Be diplomatic. If it's bothering you, confront him about it... does he know you like to listen to film music? Don't be ashamed... if you find him gauking at it, explain to him where your interest lies in the music and why it's important to you. If he can't respect that, then I think it's time to investigate other options...

Good luck!
Jeron

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Originally posted by Jeron:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by dgoldwas:
[b]In the end, you need to find a new roommate<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think that's a bit drastic. Kyriacos, it's all about tolerance. You guys need to make a compromise as far as music volume, etc. goes. Part of the great fun of having a roommate is experiencing all the differences you guys have. Hopefully, in the end, it'll broaden your horizons. Now sure, there are bad roommate pairings... and when you're paired with a roommate where you know things just aren't going to work out, well, you just know. But it doesn't sound like that's the case. How well do you know this guy? It sounds like (to me) that you're just not confident. Stand up for what you like, dude. You're tastes aren't superior... they're just different. Having a superiority complex about what you like isn't a very good way to win someone over. Be diplomatic. If it's bothering you, confront him about it... does he know you like to listen to film music? Don't be ashamed... if you find him gauking at it, explain to him where your interest lies in the music and why it's important to you. If he can't respect that, then I think it's time to investigate other options...

Good luck!
Jeron

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WOW!Thanks Jeron!

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Originally posted by Jeron:
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1> Now sure, there are bad roommate pairings...

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Hmmmm...well, i think that it's a matter of confidence after all. I often find myself turning the volume down to zero as soon as he enters the room, because i don't want him to find out that i'm actually listening to Chicken Run?
Geez!
Also, another thing that really bothers me, is that we very rarely get the chance to talk...He sits on his side of the room working with his computer, i sit on my side working with my computer, and whenever i try to talk to him he is so busy with what he is doing, that he doesn't even pay attention to what i'm saying. After a couple of attempts, i quit trying.
I am a very open person and i make friends very very easily. He just won't let me get near him...

k

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Originally posted by Philipp:
Why don´t you suggest he/she should listen to a score someday, and then IF he likes it, maybe you can pull him over to our side.
We need every soul we can get

Philipp

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Although I did once play The World is Not Enough for him. He said "That's more like it."

Please...

Jz

you could try mentioning to him that a meteor could fall at any time on the room you guys share
- he either will understand the pun and start to take interest in you as an intelligent guy,
OR then he thinks you're even more crazy than you seem to be and he'll gladly flee to another room
- so, in any case you win.

KEN

Our musical tastes/differences were the least of the problems. His favorite was the Dave Matthews Band, which I think is pretty annoying, but I'll admit isn't quite as bad as techno music. I once surprised him when I was playing In Like Flint, he recognized the music as from Austin Powers. I had to explain to him that the Flint movies were indeed something real from the 1960s and not just a figment of Austin's imagination.

I'm like you, I used to just turn off the music as soon as he got in the room. I'd always get a hundred questions if I left it on, so I gave up listening to it when he came around.

Anyhow, the worst two parts were his drinking and his girlfriend.

The worst part of the drinking would be when I had to clean up his puke so I could sleep. (I couldn't ignore the smell.)

The worst part of the girlfriend would be the times when he decided he wanted her to stay the night and they slept together. Excuse me, maybe I'm too 'sensitive' here, but that is totally out of line in my book. I'd never want to sleep with a woman while a person who is more-or-less a stranger sleeps right across the room from me. I guess just I have higher standards.

Another bad thing about the girlfriend were the phone calls. They were both such morons they made a perfect couple, but still feel sorry for the girl. He'd often end the phone calls with the "I love you" crap, and he'd hang it up and say something like, "what a fat stupid bitch." But he was getting a piece of ass, so he just lied to her to keep her happy.

Ah, but now I have my own room and I don't have any of those hassles. I never did have to put up with him smoking anything in the room though... I made sure that was a rule on day one.

Best of luck with the techno, man!

NP: Star Trek: First Contact

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Whoa Jon...I...I need to go lie down.

I guess I'm just a country bumpkin.

Jz

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Originally posted by Jeron:
You guys need to make a compromise as far as music volume, etc. goes.

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With compromises, both sides lose. A consensus is better: Make him like film scores!

Regarding superiority complexes: While I accept that there are other good types of music (though it's sometimes hard to believe ), I do believe that many people just don't listen to music. Techno is cool, but Williams is "to go to sleep"? It's one thing to not like Williams, but the above statement IMHO shows clearly that it's not about the music, just about a beat. Which, at least for me, is completely what good music is NOT about. Just like films (even if they're action films) are not *about* explosions.

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Originally posted by Jeron:
So much for diplomacy...

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Well, at least you tried.

Kyr - don't turn down your music just because he comes into the room; he's obviously not extending you the same courtesy, and he's not embarrased by what he listens to - so what if you're listening to CHICKEN RUN?? (Blast that puppy LOUD, I say!)

Jeron's right though - if you're stuck with him, you might as well try to compromise and reach some sort of agreement as to who gets to play their music when.

Good luck!
Dan

As for my musical taste it's nice when someone appreciates it, on the occasions where someone called it crap I always ask them what they like and then take the piss and have a good laugh about their music (even if it's music I like )

k

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Originally posted by John Zimmer:
He says John Williams' music is the type of music you listen to when you go to sleep!!!

Jz

[b]NP: Gladiator[/B]

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That's because he can't understand it..
Unfortunately...

On the other hand, now is a good opportunity for you to stand up for yourself. Methinks your roomie is holding all the power - part because he wants to (ie withholding conversation) and part because you let him (turn down the stereo). I'd give him a major surpise and let your presence be known - but I wouldn't bother making conversation with him until he realises you're equals.

On the odd occasion I get a snide remark about my listening tastes, I always reply "so you'd rather I'd be a replica of you?"

Go for it - play John Williams and keep it turned up. Maybe fu**wad will move out instead.

I share a house with someone, but he has the basement and I have the attic and so when I play stuff or he does there's enough house between us so that it doesn't bother us.

Most relations between people involve issues of territory and power. Sad but unavoidable. I think Cine-sin is right in that you've given up some power and are not looking into the option of your moving or moving him out.

So, a few things to consider.

Musical tastes are personal. You both like what you listen to. But you're the one who feels ashamed of listening to your music, probably because it's less popular.

You're the one who is thinking, "He'll think I'm a nerd if I were to fill the room with this," but not him.

First off, I'm sure he already knows what you listen to and already thinks it's "weird".

Second, from your accounts of his other behavior, I don't think he cares or thinks much about you at all.

You need to feel pride in what you listen to in such a way that no one can make you feel bad about what gives you pleasure.

You also give up a lot of power in another area. You want a roommate you can talk with and be friends with. This guy doesn't care to be that with you. So stop trying. I'll bet you don't even like the guy and wouldn't like it if he suddenly turned around and wanted to be pals. In any case, you seem to be the needy one here and that puts you at the disadvantage.

Don't try to get him to listen to scores or convince him film music is worth listening to. If you like it, that's all that matters. Play it. Don't turn it down. If he says something. Tell him you're ears hurt from using headphones all the time. If he insults your tastes, don't even defend yourself, just go silent like he would. If he insists you turn it down, tell him no. If he plays his up in response, war it out into the high decibels. He'll realize you're making a power play and try to counter. Usually by just telling you things are going to be his way or else. Whatever happens hold your ground and don't hit him unless he hits first. If you can't beat him up, equalize things by telling him there are a lot of dirty tricks you can play so it'll be better in the end that he comes to an agreement.

Hopefully it won't escalate but jerks aren't known for nice behavior. Plus these types never change except on their own--you'll never make them see the light no matter what you do. If you're not stuck there maybe you should just bolt.

Thanks again,
Kyri

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Originally posted by Lou Goldberg:
Second, from your accounts of his other behavior, I don't think he cares or thinks much about you at all.

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Something interestingly related to Lou's thought. I friend of mine from university is traumatised by an incident that occured during her school years. She answered a teacher's question incorrectly and the class laughed at her. This incident has remained with her all the way up to Honours at university and she never speaks out in class.

I said to her, that while she dwells on the incident (and allows it to affect her social dynamics)...the rest of the class aren't even thinking about her or that moment she so despises.

Everyone cares what other people think of them (those who don't won't admit it). You can care about what other people think about you up to a certain point but don't let it envelope you and certainly don't let it become an overwhelmingly repetitive aspect of your life. Doing otherwise, will continually see the loss of your voice in this world.

Finally, not everyone in this world is going to like you....(like we do) in the same way that you won't be able to like everyone you meet in your life.

Regards,
Rochelle
p.s one point of connection between techno and film music are the various artists on Ministry of Sound releases that sample film music (e.g American Beauty).

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Originally posted by Kyriacos S:
Well my roommate DID also bring a girl in the room, and they spent the night together in bed....something which caused me to wake up at 4am.

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Next time, blast Alien³ at full volume. Their reactions should be fun.

Gae NP Always

Your roomate's dubious choice of musical entertainment has resulted in the equivalent of Adam and Eve's noticing their own nakedness in the Garden of Eden after eating fruit from the Tree of Knowledge?

I've got to inform you that it's not shame on your part, Kyriacos, my man, it's vanity...

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Originally posted by Kyriacos S:
well no one just listens to Goldenthal's Alien3 for fun...

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But I DO!

Don't feel ashamed of being different, otherwise you'll end listening to Jon Bon Jovi or some similar trash.

Keep in mind that "The Unanimity is Dumb"!

There is a difference between being polite and following a certain sense of decorum and etiquette and being a doormat for anyone to walk over. Just because you follow a code of behavior doesn't mean others do or will respect your doing so.

No one likes to be ostracized or ridiculed, but the fear of this can lead to self-repression.

I think once you become more sure inside of what the boundaries are, you might gain some ground without having to war or revenge for it. Peace is better than coersion on any day.

Robin Wood talks about this great moment in Rio Bravo. The bad guy has hired killers to watch the jail. The sheriff still goes out to make his rounds of the town. He comes across one of the killers. Without saying anything, just looking at the guy in his path, the guy moves out of the way. Why? Because both the sheriff and the killer know who has the moral weight behind him. The killer may still kill for money but somewhere, when the glare of justice is on him, he knows he's guilty and steps aside.