-
Message Boards

Movie Soundtracks
Last Hard Men, an assessment of tracked score on AMC
Archive of old forum. No more postings.
Please visit our new forum, The MovieMusic Lobby, to post new topics.
Author
Topic: Last Hard Men, an assessment of tracked score on AMC

John C Winfrey

Oscar® Winner

I saw this film for the first time since 1976 in San Antonio, last night. It was on AMC. Not a very good film, about as I remember it. Interesting cast though. When Coburn got killed obviously a stunt man, double.The score consisted of several Goldsmith scores tracked in. Most of it actually fit most scenes. A lot of it was reused over and over in there. For example:
1. Stagecoach-the short phrasing with harmonica in two cues of the original score, was used several times
2. 100 Rifles-end credits in this film was the Main title from 100 Rifles, most of tracked score from this one
3. Rio Conchos-parts of 'Ho Bandits' heard in it along with some other portions of other cues
4. tension cue tracked in from one of his 1960's or early 70's horror or sci fi scores, repeated 2-3 times in the film, could not place it, but very familar. Sounded like something from his Twilight Zone scores(very similar) Satan Bug, Seconds or The Other, something along that line.
Since 20th Cent Fox did this they just reused all these other 20th Cent Fox film scores by Goldsmith. Nice and convenient.
My breakdown would go something like this:
1. 100 Rifles, most of it, lets say 60-70 percent, lots of the background scoring used
2. Stagecoach- 15 percent, portions of cues mostly
3. Rio Conchos- 10 percent, bits and pieces
4. the two passages from the other score was the rest.
Maybe one or two short cues too from other scores.
Take care, John.
posted 03-08-2002 05:52 PM PT (US) 
BMikeJ

Oscar® Winner

Watching this movie is like watching a train wreck. It's mostly unpleasant but you can't avert your eyes. I think it started out as a Tommy Gries film and then he had his name taken off and who knows who finished it... The old Peckinpah slow-mo is trotted out for some unpleasant scenes which include poor Barbara Hershey being violated and ole Chuck getting blasted almost as many times as James Caan in The Godfather. A good cast and good production values but clearly not a finished script and the movie goes south in more ways than one. Seems like most of the Goldsmith music that was tracked in was from his time at Fox.[Message edited by BMikeJ on 03-08-2002]
posted 03-08-2002 11:34 PM PT (US) 
perfpitch

Oscar® Winner

You'd think Goldsmith'd have better things to do than blocking ISO DVD scores and extended CD releases of his music -- like preventing studios from shoe-horning his old work into crappy movies, like THE LAST HARD MEN, that he technically never worked on!
posted 03-09-2002 02:25 PM PT (US) 
PeterD

Oscar® Winner

And according to this Intrada review, the rape sequence music came from Goldsmith's "Morituri" score:posted 03-09-2002 11:51 PM PT (US) 
Graham Watt

Oscar® Winner

Right Peter, I think the MORITURI pieces are what John is referring too when he talks about the 60s horror cues.
posted 03-10-2002 03:23 AM PT (US) 
Lou Goldberg

Oscar® Winner

All this talk is making me want to see this thing--sounds like bad, guilty pleasure kind of fun.
posted 03-10-2002 03:30 AM PT (US) 
John C Winfrey

Oscar® Winner

Graham and Peter, you hit it. Good job. Those are from Morituri. I could not place them but they were familar. Well done, guys. J.
posted 03-10-2002 05:47 AM PT (US) 
OHMSS76

Oscar® Winner

Morituri seems to have been used a lot...during the awful American version of Joe D'Amato's THE GRIM REAPER(get the MUCH superior Italian version ANTHROPHROPHAGUS if you like eerie, gory italo-horror), cues from TZ's THE INVADERS and MORITURI make up much of the back half of the score....pretty jarring to me to hear 60's Goldsmith against bloody giallo
Sean
posted 03-10-2002 03:46 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
