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Topic: For Dana: What are the Must-Have scores for any film music collection

Lou Goldberg

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Old topic rewrapped.When I suggested in another post that certain scores were Must-Haves for any film music collection that was proud of itself, Dana Wilcox asked me what I thought the Must-Have scores were.
Others got on my case for my absolutist stance, so I'll add a belated IMHO.
I'm still working out a list, but in the meantime, I thought I'd try and bring the question forward to everyone. I don't know if Dana is just curious or really needs suggestions, but hopefully this topic will get enough replies for him to get an answer.
So, if you were going to start some absolute newbie on a collection, what scores would you say "had" to be there, AND additionally, what do you think is the smallest size a collection can be and still be a working representation of film music's best for somebody?
posted 03-06-2002 11:03 PM PT (US) 
Camillu

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Star Wars
E.T.
Jurassic Park
Ben-Hur
Braveheart?
Raiders of the Lost ArkIt's hard to label a score a 'must-have'...very few make the mark.
posted 03-06-2002 11:16 PM PT (US) 
BMikeJ

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I would recommend all of the Charles Gerhardt compilations from RCA and a number of compilations from Silva Screen. I know you and I probably won't agree on my latter suggestion there, Lou. I suggest these titles as a means of introducing listeners to the different composers out there and expose them to the great grand history of film music. After new listeners have heard these albums, then they can start tracking down individual composers whose style they like.
posted 03-06-2002 11:35 PM PT (US) 
monkey

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These are a few ones I really can`t live without:
Cutthroat Island
The Thin Red Line
Basic Instinct
Under FireAnd my current favorite:
The Mists of AvalonI know most of these (if any) are considered as essential, but they happen to be my favorites.
NP: The Mists of Avalon *****/*****
posted 03-07-2002 05:25 AM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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I can't really decide on Must-Haves. There are many Must-Haves that heavily depend on a certain taste, or some that certainly aren't the right point to start your collection (Alien³ or POTA is pretty hardcore for newbies
). On the other hand, compilations are great for starters, while I usually avoid them nowadays and get the full works right away if I like them. (I do of course agree that the Gerhardt discs are essential).For me, it worked this way: I started with Williams' Star Wars trilogy, then collected lots of Williams and a few other scores I enjoyed, and built my collection from there - after some time, I added 70s/80s Goldsmith, but it took me some time to really start enjoying his later scores.
So, I'd say many discs that are great for starters aren't Must-Haves on the long run. And many CDs that are essential in a bigger collection aren't the right ones to start.
Dana: I believe I still owe you an e-mail? Sorry for this, I have to dig it out on the old computer!NP: A.I. - Promo (John Williams)
posted 03-07-2002 07:55 AM PT (US) 
El Cid
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My question, asked in jest, was "how many?" (Since you listed a whole bunch of rather esoteric scores as must-haves - suggesting that your must-have list was HUGE!)Anyway, I'll take a stab at answering. Of course, I haven't heard everything, and I don't claim to be an expert, just a garden variety enthusiast.
John Williams
- Star Wars
- Superman
- Raiders
- E.T.Miklos Rozsa:
- El Cid
- Ben Hur
- Quo VadisBernard Herrmann:
- Psycho
- VertigoElmer Bernstein:
- Magnificent SevenJerry Goldsmith:
- Star Trek: TMPBasil P.:
- ConanJames Horner:
- Star Trek IIVaughan Williams:
- Scott of the Antarctic (aka Symphony #7)Wow, short list! I even omit major composers completely. But that's the whole point of a 'must-have' list: to leave things out. And my list leaves out a lot. :-)
[Message edited by El Cid on 03-07-2002]
posted 03-07-2002 09:39 AM PT (US) 
Dinko

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Easy question, easy answer: If it's a film score, you gotta have it.
You gotta have Prokofiev's Alex Nevsky, Steiner's Gone with the Wind and King Kong.
Not have those, not a film score fan (by my own personal definitions of course).
posted 03-07-2002 10:34 AM PT (US) 
JJH

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Spartacus
Ben-Hur
The Greatest Story Ever Told
The Egyptian
Henry V (Walton's and Doyle's)
Vertigo
Psycho
CE3K
Star Wars
The Searchers
posted 03-07-2002 11:18 AM PT (US) 
JEC
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Best Years of Our Lives
Raintree County
Home From The Hill
Blue Max
Magnificent 7
posted 03-07-2002 12:22 PM PT (US) 
Marian Schedenig

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I have to admit that Camillu's list is the only one that can be found in my collection in it's entirety...
posted 03-07-2002 04:19 PM PT (US) 
Timmer

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Rather than repeat what has been said I'll add:John Barry
Goldfinger
OHMSS
Deadfall
Petulia
Body HeatJerry Goldsmith
Chinatown
Under Fire
Final Conflict
LegendPhilipp Sarde
Tess
Quest For Fire
Ghost StoryJerome Moross
The Big Country (THE massive MUST HAVE!)
NP : The Scythian Suite - Prokofiev
p.s. El Cid, good mention on RVW's 'Antartica', 8 + minutes of his original score is available on British Film Music volume 1, sound quality isn't always great but this is a must have. As for Symphony # 7 I like Haitink's version best!
Tim
posted 03-07-2002 04:59 PM PT (US) 
Camillu

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quote:
Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
I have to admit that Camillu's list is the only one that can be found in my collection in it's entirety...Same here!

posted 03-08-2002 12:38 AM PT (US) 
Lou Goldberg

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This is a partial list but here goes for starts. I thought of this in terms of scores I really couldn't live without but also in terms of what should be in a self-respecting basic repetoire kind of collection whether they were favorites of mine or not. I also thought in terms of scores and not albums but limited the score list to things one can obtain on CD as opposed to scores only available on old LPs.The Big Country
The Wild Bunch
Lost Horizon (1937)
The Blue Max
Air Power
Things To Come
Henry V (1944/46)
The Spirit of St. Louis
Ben-Hur
Lust For Life
Goldfinger
Dances With Wolves
Star Wars
Jaws
The Roots of Heaven
Lawrence of Arabia
Vertigo
The Day The Earth Stood Still
Alexander Nevsky
Two English Girls
Scott of the Antarctic
Louisiana Story
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
Spartacus
The Ten Commandments
Where Eagles Dare
The Sea Hawk
8 1/2
King Kong (1933)
The 4 Musketeers
Ice Station Zebra
Victory at SeaThere are of course others I'm sure I've neglected in this round but these titles would make a great collection just of and by themselves.
posted 03-10-2002 03:03 AM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
