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    Topic:   For Dana: What are the Must-Have scores for any film music collection

     Lou Goldberg
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    Old topic rewrapped.

    When I suggested in another post that certain scores were Must-Haves for any film music collection that was proud of itself, Dana Wilcox asked me what I thought the Must-Have scores were.

    Others got on my case for my absolutist stance, so I'll add a belated IMHO.

    I'm still working out a list, but in the meantime, I thought I'd try and bring the question forward to everyone. I don't know if Dana is just curious or really needs suggestions, but hopefully this topic will get enough replies for him to get an answer.

    So, if you were going to start some absolute newbie on a collection, what scores would you say "had" to be there, AND additionally, what do you think is the smallest size a collection can be and still be a working representation of film music's best for somebody?

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    posted 03-06-2002 11:03 PM PT (US)     

     Camillu
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    Star Wars
    E.T.
    Jurassic Park
    Ben-Hur
    Braveheart?
    Raiders of the Lost Ark

    It's hard to label a score a 'must-have'...very few make the mark.

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    posted 03-06-2002 11:16 PM PT (US)     

     BMikeJ
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    I would recommend all of the Charles Gerhardt compilations from RCA and a number of compilations from Silva Screen. I know you and I probably won't agree on my latter suggestion there, Lou. I suggest these titles as a means of introducing listeners to the different composers out there and expose them to the great grand history of film music. After new listeners have heard these albums, then they can start tracking down individual composers whose style they like.

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    posted 03-06-2002 11:35 PM PT (US)     

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    These are a few ones I really can`t live without:
    Cutthroat Island
    The Thin Red Line
    Basic Instinct
    Under Fire

    And my current favorite:
    The Mists of Avalon

    I know most of these (if any) are considered as essential, but they happen to be my favorites.

    NP: The Mists of Avalon *****/*****

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    posted 03-07-2002 05:25 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    I can't really decide on Must-Haves. There are many Must-Haves that heavily depend on a certain taste, or some that certainly aren't the right point to start your collection (Alien³ or POTA is pretty hardcore for newbies ). On the other hand, compilations are great for starters, while I usually avoid them nowadays and get the full works right away if I like them. (I do of course agree that the Gerhardt discs are essential).

    For me, it worked this way: I started with Williams' Star Wars trilogy, then collected lots of Williams and a few other scores I enjoyed, and built my collection from there - after some time, I added 70s/80s Goldsmith, but it took me some time to really start enjoying his later scores.

    So, I'd say many discs that are great for starters aren't Must-Haves on the long run. And many CDs that are essential in a bigger collection aren't the right ones to start.


    Dana: I believe I still owe you an e-mail? Sorry for this, I have to dig it out on the old computer!

    NP: A.I. - Promo (John Williams)

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    posted 03-07-2002 07:55 AM PT (US)     

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    My question, asked in jest, was "how many?" (Since you listed a whole bunch of rather esoteric scores as must-haves - suggesting that your must-have list was HUGE!)

    Anyway, I'll take a stab at answering. Of course, I haven't heard everything, and I don't claim to be an expert, just a garden variety enthusiast.

    John Williams
    - Star Wars
    - Superman
    - Raiders
    - E.T.

    Miklos Rozsa:
    - El Cid
    - Ben Hur
    - Quo Vadis

    Bernard Herrmann:
    - Psycho
    - Vertigo

    Elmer Bernstein:
    - Magnificent Seven

    Jerry Goldsmith:
    - Star Trek: TMP

    Basil P.:
    - Conan

    James Horner:
    - Star Trek II

    Vaughan Williams:
    - Scott of the Antarctic (aka Symphony #7)

    Wow, short list! I even omit major composers completely. But that's the whole point of a 'must-have' list: to leave things out. And my list leaves out a lot. :-)

    [Message edited by El Cid on 03-07-2002]

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    posted 03-07-2002 09:39 AM PT (US)     

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    Easy question, easy answer: If it's a film score, you gotta have it.

    You gotta have Prokofiev's Alex Nevsky, Steiner's Gone with the Wind and King Kong.

    Not have those, not a film score fan (by my own personal definitions of course).

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    posted 03-07-2002 10:34 AM PT (US)     

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    Spartacus
    Ben-Hur
    The Greatest Story Ever Told
    The Egyptian
    Henry V (Walton's and Doyle's)
    Vertigo
    Psycho
    CE3K
    Star Wars
    The Searchers

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    posted 03-07-2002 11:18 AM PT (US)     

     JEC
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    Best Years of Our Lives
    Raintree County
    Home From The Hill
    Blue Max
    Magnificent 7

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    posted 03-07-2002 12:22 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    I have to admit that Camillu's list is the only one that can be found in my collection in it's entirety...

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    posted 03-07-2002 04:19 PM PT (US)     

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    Rather than repeat what has been said I'll add:

    John Barry

    Goldfinger
    OHMSS
    Deadfall
    Petulia
    Body Heat

    Jerry Goldsmith

    Chinatown
    Under Fire
    Final Conflict
    Legend

    Philipp Sarde

    Tess
    Quest For Fire
    Ghost Story

    Jerome Moross

    The Big Country (THE massive MUST HAVE!)

    NP : The Scythian Suite - Prokofiev

    p.s. El Cid, good mention on RVW's 'Antartica', 8 + minutes of his original score is available on British Film Music volume 1, sound quality isn't always great but this is a must have. As for Symphony # 7 I like Haitink's version best!

    Tim


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    posted 03-07-2002 04:59 PM PT (US)     

     Camillu
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
    I have to admit that Camillu's list is the only one that can be found in my collection in it's entirety...

    Same here!

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    posted 03-08-2002 12:38 AM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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    This is a partial list but here goes for starts. I thought of this in terms of scores I really couldn't live without but also in terms of what should be in a self-respecting basic repetoire kind of collection whether they were favorites of mine or not. I also thought in terms of scores and not albums but limited the score list to things one can obtain on CD as opposed to scores only available on old LPs.

    The Big Country
    The Wild Bunch
    Lost Horizon (1937)
    The Blue Max
    Air Power
    Things To Come
    Henry V (1944/46)
    The Spirit of St. Louis
    Ben-Hur
    Lust For Life
    Goldfinger
    Dances With Wolves
    Star Wars
    Jaws
    The Roots of Heaven
    Lawrence of Arabia
    Vertigo
    The Day The Earth Stood Still
    Alexander Nevsky
    Two English Girls
    Scott of the Antarctic
    Louisiana Story
    The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
    Spartacus
    The Ten Commandments
    Where Eagles Dare
    The Sea Hawk
    8 1/2
    King Kong (1933)
    The 4 Musketeers
    Ice Station Zebra
    Victory at Sea

    There are of course others I'm sure I've neglected in this round but these titles would make a great collection just of and by themselves.

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