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Jeron Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by James: Fascinating. I think I liked the movie more than I originally gave it credit for. Thank goodness! I was really trying hard to figure something to say to you last night, Kirk... I just, I couldn't. Maybe now... maybe now.
posted 03-09-2002 09:06 AM PT (US)

HadrianD Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Shaun Rutherford: It's hard to carry on an argument with you when I can't understand what you're trying to say, dude. Shaun Maybe you're the one not making sense.
posted 03-09-2002 12:00 PM PT (US)

Dave Oscar® Winner	I think Shaun needs to grow up.
posted 03-09-2002 03:33 PM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Oscar® Winner	Yeah, that's it. Thanks for the advice, guys! Shaun
posted 03-09-2002 03:57 PM PT (US)

perfpitch Oscar® Winner	Question: If you strip the story of the George Pal film's charm, and H.G. Wells's social commentary, what've you got left? Answer: (see below)
posted 03-10-2002 01:20 AM PT (US)

perfpitch Oscar® Winner	PS: All I could think of while watching the film is that I'm glad it wasn't shot it Smell-O-Vision, because Guy Pearce sure as hell looks as though he needs a bath -- and that's before he leaves Turn-of-the-Century New York.
posted 03-10-2002 01:23 AM PT (US)

HadrianD Oscar® Winner	Saw the movie today. Not bad. IT's shorter, or seems shorter than I had wanted it to. NOt much of an action movie, due to the lack of set pieces. Not much of an adventure movie either, but an overall enjoyable movie. I would have loved to have seen the true version of the book on the screen, but I guess it wouldn't be very entertaining. The score was pretty good. The scoring of the death of the fiance reminded me of the death of Caesar in Gladiator (the deep pronounced celli-bass line, characteristic of Hans), the Jenkins's Adiemus-vocal styling was kinda distracting, but not bad. The melodic line diverged just enough to avoid any lawsuits, but we'll see. The album should be an entertaining one. Can't wait.
posted 03-10-2002 03:32 PM PT (US)

Ellen B Edgerton Oscar® Winner	Wow, I must be really supercritical: I thought this was easily one of the five worst mainstream movies I've ever seen. Terrible script, anemic acting, clumsy direction, lackluster scoring... to me, it just screamed "B movie," and not in a fun way. Oh well.
posted 03-10-2002 04:04 PM PT (US)

HadrianD Oscar® Winner	I usually go to the movie to relax and unwind from a week of troubles. This movie didn't do that much, but it helped. Not a bad one considering how BAD they could have done it. I wants to see the original cut before the whole 9-11 crap happened. Prolly better than this version.
posted 03-10-2002 04:31 PM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Oscar® Winner	Ellen, where is your website? I miss reading it, and only because I don't remember the address. Shaun
posted 03-10-2002 08:40 PM PT (US)

meegle Oscar® Winner	Whatever happened to Nicholas Meyer's TIME AFTER TIME? Now THAT's film!!!! Anyway... Mmmm...mmmm....MUMBA!!!!! This film was a huge let down for me. Within the first couple of MINUTES I was wondering if I was watching "dailies" of the film and not the finished product. AND THE ACTING!?!?! Guy Pierce was way way way miscast. Yet another story that was seemmingly dumbed down past the Morlock's stupidity. Do forgive but, in the book, why does the main character want to go through time? In this film (AND NOT IN THE ROD TAYLOR MOVIE) the main character goes back to prevent a personal tragedy. Well, where was the mention of this in the end? The last we hear of it is from the albino villains' mouth. This was really a horribly unrealized and sophomoric attempt at a good film......and the most frustrating thing is that the director IS a Wells. The only thing the movie has going for it is the FX. I seriously doubt I'll get the score. By the way, who did the music for the TEASER? And why was the teaser better than the film? Oh well..... One more thing. Is Orlando Jones a jinx? I hope he's not joining the list of Hollywood Jinx's like Martin Short and Jim Belushi.
posted 03-10-2002 11:05 PM PT (US)

James Oscar® Winner	Guy Pierce was way way way miscast. I didn't think so. The Guy's good. And he filmed half the movie with a broken rib. Yet another story that was seemmingly dumbed down past the Morlock's stupidity. Yep. Do forgive but, in the book, why does the main character want to go through time? He's a curious scientist. In this film (AND NOT IN THE ROD TAYLOR MOVIE) the main character goes back to prevent a personal tragedy. Yeah, that was stupid and unnecessary. The last we hear of it is from the albino villains' mouth. Definitely 60's. Jeremy Irons was a wonderful substitute for Peter Cushing. This was really a horribly unrealized and sophomoric attempt at a good film...... Yep. The only thing the movie has going for it is the FX. Like the Morlocks? The Ninja Turtles had far more convincing animatronic faces. Is Orlando Jones a jinx? Could be. But he wasn't bad, per se. like Martin Short He didn't jinx Mumford. That was a wonderful film. You want some more? How is it possible that English could survive unchanged for 800,000 years when the only non-verbal reference is a few scattered signs that have very little grammatical structure? Isn't it convenient that the one and only Eloi that has ever escaped from the Morlocks happened to be one of the very few who spoke English? And speaking of convenience, it's really marvelous that the entire museum was destroyed except for the hologram's database and a few sheets of glass for him to walk around in. Sophisticated photonic holograms in just 28 years? We're going to look back at this movie like it's Destination: Moon. In the novel (and the George Pal film) the Eloi had everything provided for them - shelter, food, clothing - all provided in secret by the Morlocks to make them reliant, placid, and totally non-resistant. In this version, the Eloi are a completely independent, self-supporting culture. They have absolutely no reason or motive whatsoever to surrender to the Morlocks so easily. These Eloi are also much more fit than those of the novel: a healthy, exuberant race as opposed to lazy, grazing sheep. Again, no reason to submit so easily. I could go on if you like. The story has more holes than a doughnut shop. Now, who can explain why I enjoyed the film at all? Obviously, I can't. I just know that I did. Kirk [Message edited by James on 03-10-2002]
posted 03-10-2002 11:31 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by James: *Now, who can explain why* I enjoyed the film at all? Obviously, I can't. I just know that I did.** I think I can explain that one: You checked your brain at the door. Just like I did.
posted 03-11-2002 12:14 AM PT (US)

perfpitch Oscar® Winner	Meegle brings up a very interesting point: the "hero" in this version of THE TIME MACHINE needs the incentive of preventing his fiancee's death to spur him into building his machine and travelling back into time. Whatever happened to invention and exploration for its own sake?? To expand the frontiers of knowledge simply because it can, and must, be done if the human race is to evolve into a wiser, more noble species. The writer, director and producers have dumbed down the story beyond eliminating (as George Pal did before them), H.G. Wells's social commentary, they have done a dilation and and evacuation of the book's very soul, the very reason Wells wrote it in the first place. The Guy Pearce character doesn't need a reason (read excuse) to go back in time. You climb mountains simply because they are there.
posted 03-11-2002 01:54 AM PT (US)

Quill Oscar® Winner	Well--I saw it this weekend, and like a few folks here was able to enjoy it. I did not have high expectations, and thus they were met. The film was not laborious, although I will say that I enjoyed the first 2/3 far more than the last. Ah well--seems to be a lot of analysis being done. I don't think the film warrants it.
posted 03-11-2002 07:40 AM PT (US)

meegle Oscar® Winner	Okay, when I say the FX were good I meant everything BUT the Morlocks, i.e. the machine itself and the travelling. The ONLY ONLY ONLY time my disbelief was suspended? When Jeremy Irons was castigating the traveller for being ignorant and selfish. I did also enjoy seeing the actor from Pal's movie do a cameo of sorts. Was it Bigby? Boothby? I forget. Where was Rod Taylor? He hasn't passed has he? One last thing... Mmmmm....mmmmm....Mumba!!! A Nova for the 21st century...or 80th.
posted 03-11-2002 09:15 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by meegle: Mmmmm....mmmmm....Mumba!!! A Nova for the 21st century...or 80th. Actually....that would be the 8,000th century. Yeah - with the exception of her being able to talk, I agree with you - she was just like Nova! Dan [Message edited by dgoldwas on 03-11-2002]
posted 03-11-2002 09:20 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by perfpitch: *You climb mountains simply because they are there.* Okay Cap'n Kirk...
posted 03-11-2002 10:11 AM PT (US)

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