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Spicy Ramen Oscar® Winner	I noticed that Ennio Morricone did a lot of scores back in his homeland(Italy?) and also Patrick Doyle(England?). So my question is, how much does film music play in movies outside the United States. Say a movie like the recent Amelie, would it have a score release in their respective countries? Or does the soundtrack release usually happen only when the film has been purchased for a US release?
posted 02-27-2002 05:51 PM PT (US)

Timmer Oscar® Winner	I'm tired and I'm off to bed...here in the good ol'UK ...You, have a lot to learn Spicey! ....ENJOY! 150 - 200 titles available by Morricone ALONE in a recent CD catalogue I looked at...barely a handfull of them for US films [Message edited by Timmer on 02-27-2002]
posted 02-27-2002 06:12 PM PT (US)

Mark Olivarez Oscar® Winner	To answer the orginal question, yes films outside the U.S. get soundtrack releases. And they actually consist of scores for the most part instead of trying to make a buck with the dreaded song soundtrack. Japan releases alot of soundtracks for their films. Go to Footlight.com and they have a selection of foreign soundtracks. [Message edited by Mark Olivarez on 02-27-2002]
posted 02-27-2002 08:19 PM PT (US)

plindboe Oscar® Nominee	Yes! there is in fact a world outside US film music. Morricone, Kilar, Delerue and many others composers have created countless scores in their home countries and in the rest of Europe. Maybe I'm one of the few(apparently) that doesn't have to watch the movie before I can enjoy the score. I listen to film music for the music itself. To watch a film associated with a score, is for me just a bonus and not a necessity. In my opinion the scores created by the above mentioned composers are often not nearly as good/exciting when composed for US-films, which unfortunately give US score collectors the wrong impressions about these great composers. Having about 200 CDs by Morricone most of them to italian films, I sometimes get rather annoyed by people on these kinds of boards, saying they don't understand how Morricone has become such a legend, while the only Morricone music they know about is the Leone-westerns and a bunch of scores to US films. Actually the favorite period among most morriconians is in the early '70, where he didn't compose for any english language films at all. Well, off course there are exceptions among you guys, but I have seen these kinds of remarks often, both here and on the FSM-board. You would do yourself a great favor to try out some film music for foreign films. Some you should be able to find could be Delerue's "Diên Biên Phù" & Kilar's "Pan Tadeusz" & Morricone's "La califfa" & Stefan Nilsson's(Swedish guy) "Filmmusik"(A amazing collection). Cheers! [Message edited by plindboe on 02-28-2002]
posted 02-27-2002 08:40 PM PT (US)

Ken S Oscar® Winner	Mark Olivarez wrote: "To answer the orginal question, yes films outside the U.S. get soundtrack releases. And they actually consist of scores for the most part instead of trying to make a buck with the dreaded song soundtrack." Well, NOT HERE IN FINLAND. Ever since the pop-songs-filled-"soundtracks" came in fashion universally, even the (poor) Finnish movies have had these so-called "soundtrack releases" - while it's a fact that true film music is an obscure, unknown thing in almost any Finnish film produced after the sixties; Finnish filmmakers believe in reality so much that they regard the use of orchestral, melodic movie music as something totally unnecessary for their movies. After sort of a "Golden Age" in Finnish film industry (30's - 60's) there simply haven't been any Finnish films using dramatic orchestral music. The only exception was a children's movie produced in the middle of 80's, THE SNOW QUEEN, for which JUKKA LINKOLA composed extra-ordinarily dramatic orchestral music; but unfortunately in the movie the music got so heavily edited (by the stupid director) that the end result was a dreadful movie with a very forgettable score. So, when one listens to the splendid soundtrack release of Linkola's THE SNOW QUEEN, it should be noted that it's more original than the movie itself and a very VERY unique achievement in Finnish movie score history (- I have noticed that even some of the MM members do have THE SNOW QUEEN album on their collections; good for you, guys ). You're looking at the person who will make every possible effort to get serious orchestral music back in the use in Finnish movie industry... and also on other fields of Finnish entertainment. KEN
posted 02-27-2002 11:40 PM PT (US)

monkey Oscar® Winner	Indeed, quite a few `foreign` films tend to get cd releases of their scores as is perhpas evident in the thread `french film soundtracks`. In France several of the biggest films tend to get score releases of the often brilliant scores. I recommend you try out some Bruno Coulais (Crimson Rivers for example). Oh, Ken S, don`t forget about Tuomas Kantelinen and his brilliant score for Rukajarven Tie! NP: Iris **/***
posted 02-28-2002 03:23 AM PT (US)

André Lux Oscar® Winner	Have you people ever listen to CENTRAL STATION's ("Central do Brasil") score, by Antonio Pinto and Jaques Morelembaum (Caetano Veloso's arranger)? It's a very simple, but honest and touching score.
posted 02-28-2002 04:29 AM PT (US)

cine-sin Oscar® Winner	Andre, What a great film 'Central Station' was. I don't recall the score off-hand but you've got my curiosity going. Something interesting I've found at Amazon...there's a used copy going being sold for $37.77US while Amazon are selling it for only $14.99US. I've never seen that before. http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:J-tZrRboju4C:www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000FDJY/+central+station+soundtrack&hl=en Regards, Rochelle
posted 02-28-2002 07:20 AM PT (US)

André Lux Oscar® Winner	I am glad you like it too, Rochele. Go for the album, you will love it! [Message edited by André Lux on 02-28-2002]
posted 02-28-2002 08:17 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	Ditto on CENTRAL STATION - a touching film, and an emotional score. Dan
posted 02-28-2002 08:23 AM PT (US)

cine-sin Oscar® Winner	Dan, Are there any significant differences between the Milan and Indie releases? Rochelle
posted 02-28-2002 08:32 AM PT (US)

André Lux Oscar® Winner	And here is the track translation to the english dialect, if anyone cares... 1. Central Do Brasil 3:08 (Brazilian's Central) 2. O Trem 2:27 (The Train) 3. Toada 3:11 (Tune) 4. Sai Pirralho 2:08 (Piss-off brat) 5. Saida Do Trem 0:51 (Train's Departure) 6. Atropelamento 1:28 (Hit by a Bus) 7. Central 3:10 8. Caminhão 0:38 (Truck) 9. Conversa 1:41 (The Chat) 10. Despedida 0:42 (Farewell) 11. Casa De Jesus 1:23 (House of Jesus) 12. Matinal 0:47 (Morning) 13. Estrada 0:37 (Road) 14. Correio 1:22 (Mail) 15. Porteira 1:26 (Yard Gate) 16. Milagres 1:51 (Miracles) 17. Retrato 2:35 (Portrait) 18. Vem Comigo 0:47 (Come With Me) 19. A Carta De Dora 4:04 (Letter from Dora) 20. Preciso Me Enontrar 2:59 (I Need to Find Myself) Total Time: 37:15
posted 02-28-2002 08:40 AM PT (US)

cine-sin Oscar® Winner	Andre, No comments on the used copy being sold at Amazon?? Rochelle
posted 02-28-2002 08:47 AM PT (US)

André Lux Oscar® Winner	What do you want to know about it, Rochele?
posted 02-28-2002 08:50 AM PT (US)

cine-sin Oscar® Winner	I just thought you might find it hilarious that an Amazon seller is selling a used copy for twice the price than what Amazon is selling it for brand new. In order words - who the hell is going to pay twice the price for a used copy? see the link in my above post Rochelle [Message edited by cine-sin on 02-28-2002]
posted 02-28-2002 08:55 AM PT (US)

André Lux Oscar® Winner	I believe it'a typo, since when you click on the link for the used copy the price change to $11.55!
posted 02-28-2002 08:59 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000FDJY/ Rochelle, You can't buy it new... it's out of print. (Next time, don't go through the Google cache; try the LIVE site!!) Dan
posted 02-28-2002 09:00 AM PT (US)

cine-sin Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by André Lux: I believe it'a typo, since when you click on the link for the used copy the price change to $11.55! All I see is 37.77 although I did see the one you are referring to - and now its gone!
posted 02-28-2002 09:07 AM PT (US)

cine-sin Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by dgoldwas: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000FDJY/ Rochelle, You can't buy it new... it's out of print. (Next time, don't go through the Google cache; try the LIVE site!!) Dan Dan, Thanks for that. I should have known better than to cache but its late and I'm waiting to hear from Intrada. Rochelle
posted 02-28-2002 09:09 AM PT (US)

Mark Olivarez Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Ken S: Mark Olivarez wrote: "To answer the orginal question, yes films outside the U.S. get soundtrack releases. And they actually consist of scores for the most part instead of trying to make a buck with the dreaded song soundtrack." Well, NOT HERE IN FINLAND. Ever since the pop-songs-filled-"soundtracks" came in fashion universally, even the (poor) Finnish movies have had these so-called "soundtrack releases" - while it's a fact that true film music is an obscure, unknown thing in almost any Finnish film produced after the sixties; Finnish filmmakers believe in reality so much that they regard the use of orchestral, melodic movie music as something totally unnecessary for their movies. After sort of a "Golden Age" in Finnish film industry (30's - 60's) there simply haven't been any Finnish films using dramatic orchestral music. The only exception was a children's movie produced in the middle of 80's, THE SNOW QUEEN, for which JUKKA LINKOLA composed extra-ordinarily dramatic orchestral music; but unfortunately in the movie the music got so heavily edited (by the stupid director) that the end result was a dreadful movie with a very forgettable score. So, when one listens to the splendid soundtrack release of Linkola's THE SNOW QUEEN, it should be noted that it's more original than the movie itself and a very VERY unique achievement in Finnish movie score history (- I have noticed that even some of the MM members do have THE SNOW QUEEN album on their collections; good for you, guys ). You're looking at the person who will make every possible effort to get serious orchestral music back in the use in Finnish movie industry... and also on other fields of Finnish entertainment. KEN Oops I'm sorry Ken. I didn't realize you had to suffer thru those damned songtracks either.
posted 02-28-2002 09:10 AM PT (US)

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