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JJH Oscar® Winner	as soon as DVD hits the big time, and seems to making everybody happy, they introduce 2 new formats. See related article. bye.
posted 02-19-2002 09:23 PM PT (US)

TimT Oscar® Winner	I just received my first DVD yesterday the Mythodea Concert. [Message edited by TimT on 02-20-2002]
posted 02-20-2002 06:58 AM PT (US)

Spicy Ramen Oscar® Winner	I am really satisfied with the picture quality and goodies DVD already gives me. See no reason to shell out hundreds watching the same movie again.
posted 02-20-2002 07:02 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	JJH, they didn't announce a new format; they announced a standard on the technology to allow more data on a DVD - therefore clearing the way for HD-DVD, which we all knew was gonna come around in a couple of years anyways. As for D-VHS, it's not gonna make DVDs obsolete because it's just a digital hi-def linear tape format. Dan
posted 02-20-2002 07:10 AM PT (US)

El Cid Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by dgoldwas: As for D-VHS, it's not gonna make DVDs obsolete because it's just a digital hi-def linear tape format. I wonder why the studios are bothering with that one. Nobody can believe it will be a big success or last long. Tape is so passe.
posted 02-20-2002 07:35 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by El Cid: I wonder why the studios are bothering with that one. Nobody can believe it will be a big success or last long. Tape is so passe. Because many people with hi-def television sets might actually WANT to watch a hi-def movie on their hi-def television set sometime this year, as opposed to waiting 5 years. Also, it's nice to be able to RECORD your hi-def shows, ya know? And I don't think you can really expect a real-time hi-def recordable DVD system anytime soon. Dan [Message edited by dgoldwas on 02-20-2002]
posted 02-20-2002 07:41 AM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	DVD has been a ripoff right from the start. Otherwise, they would have included customizable resolutions, frame rates etc. in the standard. In 20 years, when everybody has huge wll-sized screens at home, current PAL/NTSC resolutions will look pretty lousy I assume.
posted 02-20-2002 08:59 AM PT (US)

jonathan_little Oscar® Winner	I really hope that D-VHS never gets off the ground. Tape technology sucks hard. Random-access anybody? It's really nice to be able to skip anywhere on a DVD without waiting for tape to wind past the head. Not to mention that tape wears out, but optical media holds up much better after many plays for a lifetime. Finally, I'll believe in HDTV when I see the prices simmer down. Right now, the technology still seems to be reserved for people with plenty of disposable income. I am quite jealous of those folks who were able to see the Indiana Jones films last week on ABC in the original aspect ratio of 2.35:1, while those of us with analog TVs had to watch a horrible pan and scan version. Frame captures of HDTV programming
posted 02-20-2002 05:39 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by jonathan_little: Frame captures of HDTV programming I hate you! NP: Ludwig van Beethoven: Symphony #9 (Vienna Philharmonic, Leonard Bernstein)
posted 02-20-2002 07:03 PM PT (US)

Dan Brecher Oscar® Winner	What you need to take into account is that as strange as it sounds, right now, the studios dont want to give people HD-DVD so it's going to me more than a couple of years before pre-recorded HD material becomes available on such technology. Studios are simply not ready to deliver such quality to the mass market in non-degradable form due to fear of it eating into current DVD, cable TV and even theatrical exhibition revenus. Not to mention a step up in format would quickly cause mass market confusion at this point in time. The few studios supporting 'D-Theater' on DVHS are happy to admit their market is a niche audio/videophile audience in demand of pre-recorded 1080i HD material who are willing enough to pay $2000 for the machine and $40 a pop for each movie title. There's actually better technology than BluRay out there. FMD for example has the support of Toshiba who you will notice was not one of the companies signing their name to the blue laser technology this week. Whilst it's likely they will be out-voted and will eventually have to conform and support BlueRay, it's interesting nevertheless. FMD would really be the best way to go, the biggest issue preventing it is that it wasnt Japanese developed, and the corporate greed of such companies will leave us stuck with 2nd best in the new high data capacity formats. It should be said, microsoft is also looking to push an MPEG4 compression format as well... The biggest reason you wont see HDDVD for years is that even right now only about 2% of the US population has HDTV. And the rest of the world? Many countries don't support and don't even intend to support it having gone with inferior digital technology services like we have here in England. When HDTV begins to grow and more people take to it, they will quickly realise their DVD resolution pales in comparison to a 1080i broadcast and will start demanding low cost pre recorded HD material. It's then, and really only then, when the mass consumer demand kicks in that HD-DVD will appear. Right now DVD is around the 25% mark of its lifespan and with an ever growing list of new and back catalogue titles each year and with recordable DVD coming down in price, the studios are far from milking it. DVD isn't going anywhere soon. If HD-DVD came sooner than I forsee, it's likely to be appeal again to a niche market as laserdisc did and I could see needlessly expensive disc prices to reflect this. However, I can't see the studios even going for it then if it suffers the same lack of retail distribution of hardware as LD did. Dan (UK) PS: Marian, HD screencaps dont even do it justice. I've been floored by every HDTV viewing I have taken in whilst in the US.
posted 02-21-2002 02:05 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Dan Brecher: Marian, HD screencaps dont even do it justice. I've been floored by every HDTV viewing I have taken in whilst in the US. Well, I hate YOU, too.
posted 02-21-2002 02:29 PM PT (US)

jonathan_little Oscar® Winner	25gb-150gb, possibly to a terabyte of storage space -- That's more like it -- with a 1gbps transfer speed? Yowza! We'll see what happens... Unfortunately history shows that the best format/device/thing-a-majig doesn't always get adopted. Oh and Marian, I've only got one of those old 4:3 analog TVs... sigh The closest I've seen of HDTV is the demo in Best Buy with CBS "HDTV" content, which appears to be coming off of a DVD player. (Anamorphic of course, which looks fine on the one or two 16:9 TVs, but the same signal is sent out to all of the 4:3 models, and as a result, looks horribly streched on those. )
posted 02-21-2002 02:40 PM PT (US)

Dan Brecher Oscar® Winner	quote: Well, I hate YOU, too. Hey, there are no plans for HDTV to even exist in this country, gimmie a break.! It's bad enough having my friends with HDTV go on about how good Raiders looked in 1080i OAR the other night... Damn them all to hell! quote: Unfortunately history shows that the best format/device/thing-a-majig doesn't always get adopted. Absolutely. This is what I meant by saying FMD technology is likely to get out voted now given the current vote of BlueRay from Japanese giants. Dan [Message edited by Dan Brecher on 02-21-2002]
posted 02-21-2002 02:57 PM PT (US)

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