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Author	Topic: Finally heard Black Hawk Down (and saw Monte Cristo)

Shaun Rutherford Oscar® Winner	Quick thoughts on both: Has anyone mentioned that the "theme" from Black Hawk Down is just a damned ripoff of "Scarborough Fair?" So much for the "most unique score in the past ten years." Saw Monte Cristo. After reading several positive reviews for the score, I had expected this to be a big, epic score, which it was in a high-school orchestra kinda way. Mainly, it was just another pedestrian version of Michael Kamen (or, a dead-in-the-intersection version of Kamen, depending on your view of Kamen) by Shearmur. For shame, film music. For shame. Shaun
posted 02-14-2002 08:23 PM PT (US)

Chris Kinsinger Oscar® Winner	*Rutherford, you magnificent bastard!* Sorry...I just had to say that. It's been awhile.
posted 02-14-2002 08:41 PM PT (US)

OHMSS76 Oscar® Winner	Hey ya East Coast Bastard! Could this be a dig at a certain youngster we both know and love....one that is a relative of MY namesake(OHMSS)?!?!?!? And what DOES that name mean anyway, of our friend...hmmm,have to head to FSM and find out! Bah-zah! Sean
posted 02-14-2002 09:24 PM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Shaun Rutherford: Has anyone mentioned that the "theme" from Black Hawk Down is just a damned ripoff of "Scarborough Fair?" So much for the "most unique score in the past ten years." Yup. I mentioned it when I first heard the score at the Zimmer reception, and then again in my review at SoundtrackNet. Dan [Message edited by dgoldwas on 02-14-2002]
posted 02-14-2002 09:44 PM PT (US)

joan hue Oscar® Winner	Good call, Chris. That “bastard” forgot Valentine’s Day..as least he forgot his “bestest” adopted mom. Stayed home all day waiting for TONS of flowers, chocolates, diamonds, whatever, and NUTIN! Of course, I assumed a certain Timmer in England would send some scones, strawberries, tea, and bottled pints of brewskis, all encasing Barry CD’s. Nope! Nothing from Austria, either..hmm, what is Austria well known for? Chocolates? Coffee? Okay, I’m going into a deep pout, and cut a BUNCH kids out of my will. But, I have to agree with Shaun a little on Monte Cristo. I just wasn’t all that impressed with anything in the movie. Although I realize a lot of you loved it, I was only mildly entertained. NP Big Jake
posted 02-14-2002 09:50 PM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Oscar® Winner	Well then! Good call Dan! Junk! Happy Belated Valentine's Day to all of the loved ones who I forgot about while eating way too much chocolate for my stomach to handle. Shaun
posted 02-15-2002 06:15 AM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	Aw, Mom, but I figured I'd better give the flowers and chocolate to the Academy. And seeing that you won the Oscar, I think it worked. Still, happy belated Valentine's Day. (To be honest, I didn't even know if this is international ) NP: Star Trek: Generations (Dennis McCarthy)
posted 02-15-2002 07:44 AM PT (US)

joan hue Oscar® Winner	Thanks Marian, you're redeemed! You mean that ALL American holidays are not international? But share with us what Austrians would send or promote to represent Austria? (I'd send you apple pie, hot dogs, and a chevrolet...and I live in fine wine country just like the French.)
posted 02-15-2002 08:49 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by joan hue: I'd send you apple pie, hot dogs, and a chevrolet... Hehe... Apple Pie is British, Hot Dogs are German, and Chevrolet, well, that's Detroit - which is debatable. Dan
posted 02-15-2002 09:02 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	I really enjoyed Shearmur's Monte Cristo...
posted 02-15-2002 09:56 AM PT (US)

Timmer Oscar® Winner	Big up to the Shaunster who always tells it like it is! Did you no see that huge message above the skies of Kennewick written in really large expensive fireworks "HAPPY VALENTINES DAY MOM JOAN" last night?
posted 02-15-2002 10:39 AM PT (US)

TV's Frank Oscar® Winner	Hear hear, Jeron! I am not embarrassed to admit how much I liked the film and score and I think it's expertly composed. It was not intended to be an overblown epic score, that would have crushed the understated drama of the film. Shearmur did good!
posted 02-15-2002 10:43 AM PT (US)

Pete M Oscar® Winner	Jeron! I'm shocked! It's not often you like a score.
posted 02-15-2002 10:45 AM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by joan hue: Thanks Marian, you're redeemed! You mean that ALL American holidays are not international? I just never know which holidays we have are exclusive to Austria and which are international. (Plus I never manage to keep track of many holidays anyway, just those that mean that I don't have to work ) quote: But share with us what Austrians would send or promote to represent Austria? (I'd send you apple pie, hot dogs, and a chevrolet...and I live in fine wine country just like the French.) As Dan said, apple pie comes from Britan - though I didn't know that about hot dogs being from Germany. For Austria, the most popular thingies are probably Mozartkugeln (Mozart Marbles, or whatever the official English name is), or perhaps Manner Schnitten (Manner Slices - I brought Timmer a package to London last year, perhaps he can describe them in English ) from Vienna. Or a CD of the New Year's Concert.
posted 02-15-2002 11:30 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Pete M: Jeron! I'm shocked! It's not often you like a score. LOL. You're great Pete, you really are.
posted 02-15-2002 11:47 AM PT (US)

joan hue Oscar® Winner	Timmer, I must have missed those marvelous fireworks. Shame on me for closing my shades. Mozart Marbles and Manner Shcnitten are???? I think hot dogs are totally indigenous to America. We got the German Sausage from Germany, which we changed into the American hot dog which is full of foul, putrid, sometimes unknown animal parts...and maybe parts of inorganic things. Yuck. Still give me some fries, ketchup and mustard, a bun and I’ll eat them. NP Conti’s TV themes (I like Falcon Crest.) [Message edited by joan hue on 02-15-2002]
posted 02-15-2002 12:35 PM PT (US)

Timmer Oscar® Winner	Marian, surely a true Austrian dish is Weiner Schnitzel (have I spelt that right? ) Manner slices are basically chocolate wafer biscuits and very nice they are too especially with a cup of tea (now there you go Mom...can I get any MORE English for you ) Mom, how'd ya miss them fireworks?...so bright, Houston thought an Asteroid the size of the great extinction had occured Hot Dogs are very American, made from an unfathomable flesh unbeknown to mere mortal kind... However, mustard -ketchup and fried onions seem to do the trick Did you know that you can't beat a good German sausage?...is Andre Lux aware of that fact?!
posted 02-15-2002 07:06 PM PT (US)

OHMSS76 Oscar® Winner	A bit off topic, but since my pal Timmer's in here..... T, have you heard Popol Vuh's NOSFERATU?? Just in from a friend of mine, and it's very cool! 73mins. of blissful piano/guitar/drums/sitar mediatation....I'm sure you've heard this! Whadda ya think? It is very Oldfield-ian I find....good album Sean [Message edited by OHMSS76 on 02-16-2002]
posted 02-16-2002 12:34 AM PT (US)

Timmer Oscar® Winner	Have you ever seen the film documentary of Werner Hertzog and Klaus Kinski working on Fitzcarado (sic)? Two men with Solar System sized egos clashing, it's THE most facinating docu I've EVER seen...and you have to SEE this to BELIEVE it! Sean ol'bean yer gonna have to do me a copy of that in our next trade A long story (which I've told before and won't bore anyone with again), but I USED to have this on LP but it's long since gone!
posted 02-16-2002 11:14 AM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Timmer: Marian, surely a true Austrian dish is Weiner Schnitzel (have I spelt that right? It's Wiener Schnitzel, because it comes from Wien (Vienna) - "Weiner" would be "Crier". (By the way, it's "Werner Herzog" and "Fitzcaraldo", I believe ) I do believe though that Wiener Schnitzel is only called that. I'm not sure that it's really from Austria. Anyway, it wouldn't taste too good after being 2 weeks in an envelope to the US. (Since we're talking about sausages: The simple cooked sausages - which I don't like - are called "Frankfurter" in Wien/Vienna and "Wiener" in Frankfurt, Germany ) Joan: Mozartkugeln are chocolate marbles with marzipan and nougat (are they really written identical in English and German? ) filling. Manner Schnitten have a small image of St. Stephen's Cathedral (Vienna's trademark) on the packaging. [Message edited by Marian Schedenig on 02-16-2002]
posted 02-16-2002 11:55 AM PT (US)

OHMSS76 Oscar® Winner	You got it mate! I have to concoct some art, since I only received it with track titles, but its really good. Is there more music on this than that LP you mention? The thing runs 73 mins, and the first track is 18mins....was it a double lp? Just what I need, another 'group' to collect Damnable completist mentality! Bah! NP:Escape From The POTA(Goldsmith)Funky, and while the Varese is good, damn them for leaving out the best cue, a modern day tribute to our favorite pastime...Shopping! Ciao, Sean PS...Marian, since you're here too, Englishman/Mountain is very good, and I've got my copy done Huzzah!
posted 02-16-2002 12:50 PM PT (US)

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