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    Topic:   74th Oscar nominations

     jeffy
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    What a great birthday present for John Williams! Two nominations, for AI and Harry Potter!
    Here's the score nominees:
    AI
    A Beautiful Mind
    Harry Potter
    Lord of the Rings
    Monsters, Inc.

    Anyone else have that Sesame Street song in their heads: "One of these things is not like the others...." What's with the Randy Newman nomination? That was a wake-up call.

    And the song nominees:
    "Until" from Kate and Leopold
    "May It Be" from Lord of the Rings
    "If I Didn't Have You" from Monsters Inc.
    "There You'll Be" from Pearl Harbor
    "Vanilla Sky" from Vanilla Sky
    Looks like it'll be a star-studded evening. Paul McCartney, Sting, Enya, Faith Hill, and hopefully Billy Crystal and John Goodman singing the Monsters Inc. song.

    OK, enough from me. Reactions???

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    posted 02-12-2002 05:53 AM PT (US)     

     Camillu
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    13 for LOTR!!! Woohoo!!!

    On the score-front: Randy instead of Elliot???

    Looks like I'm gonna be happy - either Shore on Williams on stage.

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    posted 02-12-2002 06:00 AM PT (US)     

     Kevin
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    I noticed LOTR got 12 nominations.

    Kevin


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    posted 02-12-2002 06:05 AM PT (US)     

     James
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    Give the award to Howard! On the sad side, I am disappointed to see that Chris Young didn't get the nomination they were pushing. Sorry, Chris.

    As always, I have tons of problems with many of the selections. But no surprise there.

    Looks like they decided to follow their own rules this year by ignoring Moulin Rouge for Best Score.

    Although it is quite curious that Memento, which was based on a previously published short story, was nominated for Best Original Screenplay and not adapted. It's a shame Gosford Park will probably win.

    More thoughts later, perhaps.

    Kirk

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    posted 02-12-2002 06:16 AM PT (US)     

     jeffy
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    Here's what I think of Memento being in the Original Screenplay category:

    The published short story has absolutely nothing to do with what you see on film. In fact, there is no true evidence that the two are related. If you have the Memento DVD, you can read the story there. See for yourself.

    That means the story that Jonathan Nolan came up with for the screen was completly different from what he wrote, and therefore "written directly for the screen."

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    posted 02-12-2002 06:19 AM PT (US)     

     Dan Brecher
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    quote:
    I noticed LOTR got 12 nominations.

    FOTR got 13 actually.

    Dan

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    posted 02-12-2002 06:23 AM PT (US)     

     John Zimmer
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    Wow I am quite suprised that Harry Potter got nominated. And I'm darn happy about it too!!

    Let's go Harry Potter!!

    Jz

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    posted 02-12-2002 06:27 AM PT (US)     

     James
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    quote:
    Originally posted by jeffy:
    Here's what I think of Memento being in the Original Screenplay category:
    The published short story has absolutely nothing to do with what you see on film. In fact, there is no true evidence that the two are related. If you have the Memento DVD, you can read the story there. See for yourself.

    That means the story that Jonathan Nolan came up with for the screen was completly different from what he wrote, and therefore "written directly for the screen."


    Interesting, but I disagree. I think that if the credits of the film actually say (as they do in this case) that a screenplay is based on a short story, that should be enough to put it into the adapted screenplay category. That's all it took for In the Bedroom.

    [Message edited by James on 02-12-2002]

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    posted 02-12-2002 06:30 AM PT (US)     

     jeffy
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    The screen credit does confuse things for me. I always thought the published story was the basis for the screenplay. But I think it comes down to the fact that the Academy members who determine eligibility saw that the published story and the actual film had nothing in common (even the names of the lead characters are different).

    It'll be interesting to see in the coming weeks if Hollywood asks the same questions we're asking.

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    posted 02-12-2002 06:47 AM PT (US)     

     dgoldwas
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    Williams might have just cancelled himself out.... POTTER won't win, AI bombed at the box office (remember, this is a popularity vote from here on out), and the Academy is still too scared to give it to Randy Newman (I would be estatic if he won - but not for MONSTERS, INC.). So that leaves A BEAUTIFUL MIND, and LOTR. Unless people manage to see BICENTENNIAL MAN between now and the deadline, I have a feeling Horner has a pretty good shot at it again. But I'm pulling for LOTR.

    Dan

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    posted 02-12-2002 07:10 AM PT (US)     

     Quill
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    I'm pulling for a LOTR sweep...but this growing pit in my stomach says I'm bound for disappointment.

    But if anyone other than Shore wins for score I'll be a tad on the pissed off side...much like when Il Postino won over Braveheart. Travesty...

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    posted 02-12-2002 07:21 AM PT (US)     

     Kris
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    I'm glad no small/foreign movie score got nominated. The Oscars should be about Hollywood. They're like the blockbusters awards. They're like popcorn awards. There are many other film festivals that honor small/foreign movies. Oscars is about Hollywood. Big movies, famous stars, big bucks ... COMMERCE.

    !!! I'm not saying Hollywood movies are better. I'd just rather see Williams, Newton Howard, Zimmer, Doyle, etc. up there instead of John Doe from John Doe Land!!!

    I hope Williams wins, allthough Shore deserves one of those statues.

    [Message edited by Kris on 02-12-2002]

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    posted 02-12-2002 07:59 AM PT (US)     

     OHMSS76
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    http://www.oscar.com/nominees/nominees_index.html

    Here is the whole list, for those interested...it's early here, but did I read correctly that David Lynch got the nod for Best Director!?!?!? Huzzzzzah!

    Here's hoping that FOTR cleans house...it's about time for a decent film that really EARNED the award to win
    Williams' doesn't need the Oscar....Shore does, and deserves it.

    S~

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    posted 02-12-2002 08:24 AM PT (US)     

     dgoldwas
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Kris:
    I hope Williams wins, allthough Shore deserves one of those statues.

    But do you think Williams deserves it for either of those two scores?? AI is good and all, but it's not GREAT. And POTTER is fun, but after you play those two themes, the album dissolves into mush....

    Dan

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    posted 02-12-2002 08:48 AM PT (US)     

     PeterK
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    Ack. Good luck to Howard Shore. He'll be in a neck-and-neck nail-biter down to the finish line with James Horner. I think he'll get it. Message to the Academy: quit insulting Randy Newman with nominations already... unless you really are going to give him an Oscar!

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    posted 02-12-2002 09:08 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    F*CK the internet. There I was writing a LOOONG post, then the connection fails, and this STUPID Microsoft crap called Internet Explorer throws away my whole post.

    Aw crap, no more than 8 images per post...

    ...FRIGGIN FLOOD CONTROL...

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    posted 02-12-2002 09:17 AM PT (US)     

     dgoldwas
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    quote:
    Originally posted by PeterK:
    Message to the Academy: quit insulting Randy Newman with nominations already... unless you really are going to give him an Oscar!

    Well said, Peter!
    Dan

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    posted 02-12-2002 09:20 AM PT (US)     

     Aaron R. Brown
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    I think that this might be Williams' year. The first time this happened was in 1979. The nominations were Star Wars: A New Hope and Close Encounters. Williams won. The other time was in 1987. Empire of the Sun and The Witches of Eastwick were nominated. Neither won. However they both are minor scores and movies (in my opinion!) compared to AI and Harry Potter. Good luck Williams!

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    posted 02-12-2002 10:31 AM PT (US)     

     dgoldwas
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    You're also forgetting 1995, with NIXON and SABRINA (granted, they were seperate score categories, but still.....)

    And EMPIRE OF THE SUN is significantly better than POTTER and AI....

    Dan

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    posted 02-12-2002 10:40 AM PT (US)     

     Quill
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    I agree with Dan's earlier sentiment that Williams will cancel himself out this year...much like when Horner cancelled himself with Apollo 13 and Braveheart.

    It doesn't matter though--Shore should and will win!

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    posted 02-12-2002 11:30 AM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    ::Brian apparates into the thread and all chatting stops dead::

    Go Harry!!! (on all of your nominationj) But LOTR should sweep best score and song...here's ot hoping

    --Brian

    NP: Harry Potter

    ::Brian magicaly apparates from the thread::

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    posted 02-12-2002 11:33 AM PT (US)     

     Quill
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    Hey Peter--can we get anti-apparating protection on this board...

    For some reason it just dawned on me that Black Hawk Down was snubbed. It was a 2001 movie...right? It must have been too violent for the Academy's taste...I guess. Far better that Moulin Rouge...

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    posted 02-12-2002 11:50 AM PT (US)     

     PeterK
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    Williams' scores cancelling each other out is a moot discussion. It was to James Horner's disadvantage in 1995 because both of his scores were very good Oscar contenders. No one in the Academy, except for Spielberg, will be voting for AI's score, while Harry Potter will attract many votes. In the end, though, it will be a photo finish between Horner and Shore.

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    posted 02-12-2002 12:21 PM PT (US)     

     Quill
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    Agreed!

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    posted 02-12-2002 12:44 PM PT (US)     

     HAL 2000
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    quote:
    Originally posted by jeffy:
    What a great birthday present for John Williams! Two nominations, for AI and Harry Potter!

    You think? These things must be to Williams like bowling trophies. How can you get excited after almost fifty of them?

    I've won awards for my work many times and can say from experience that when you get the same ones over and over again (and, in the case of Williams seemingly for anything you do) that it has a diminishing effect on the value of the award itself.

    Someone like Poledouris or, in this case, Shore might be all beside themselves though.

    I say this with the opinion that the (oscar) nomination is an award or recognition of sorts in itself.

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    posted 02-12-2002 01:53 PM PT (US)     

     Kevin
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    quote:
    quote:
    Originally posted by Dan Brecher:
    FOTR got 13 actually.

    I'll plead temporary insanity (or delusion) as I was just barely awake when I counted the nominations and made my original post.

    Kevin

    [Message edited by Kevin on 02-12-2002]

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    posted 02-12-2002 02:15 PM PT (US)     

     Norman McCay
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    To respond to Quill: Black Hawk Down was somewhat snubbed (and so was Zimmer, but I digress), at least from the traditional categories. There's no question about it. But interestingly enough, the nods that BHD did earn turned up in the technical aspects, from editing to directing. So perhaps the Academy does respect the film, albeit only in a technical sense.

    I just don't think the Academy or anyone for that matter is ready to give a statue to (or nominate) a movie that will probably be more suited for airing on the History Channel than it will be on HBO or Showtime.

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    posted 02-12-2002 02:29 PM PT (US)     

     James
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    quote:
    Originally posted by HAL 2000:
    Someone like Poledouris or, in this case, Shore might be all beside themselves though.

    Beside themselves... (insert sarcasm) did you see how elated Shore was when he won the Broadcast Film Critics award? I wasn't sure whether he was being sarcastic in his stoicism or whether he's like I would be, just too nervous to speak emotionally. Indeed, a few people in attendance laughed when he said, "Thrilling, just thrilling." But the Oscars are a probably a much different matter, and perhaps my perception of Shore's acceptance of the trophy is askew in the first place.

    Re: Black Hawk Down. Not everyone thought that was such a great film. If the Academy only respects it on a technical level, I am in full agreement. But that's me.

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    posted 02-12-2002 03:09 PM PT (US)     

     Quill
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    Shame on me for not looking through all the categories carefully enough. Even though I hope it does not win in the technical categories, I am glad that it was recognized.

    Thanks for making me honest!

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    posted 02-12-2002 03:34 PM PT (US)     

     Mark Olivarez
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    I pray to God Horner does not win. To me A.I. and LOTR are the front runners. I'm suprised Harry Potter got a nomination.

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    posted 02-12-2002 03:40 PM PT (US)     

     Crono/Kyp
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    ::Brian apparates into the thread (again)::

    Hehehe, deep down we all knew it would get nomiated because it's Williams

    --B (The Harry Potter Fanatic of MM.com)

    NP: The Fellowship of the Ring

    ::Brian magicaly apparates from the thread::

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    posted 02-12-2002 03:45 PM PT (US)     

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    Black Hawk Down was one of the greatest war movies I have ever seen. However, there was somewhat a lack of story in the film. But that's because of the realness. It focused on the men at that time. It didn't have some love story behind it, it didn't have some story about a man losing his family, it was focused on the bond of a group of men. Which makes me wonder why Josh Hartnett is on the front, I think he was in it the least out of everyone.

    Best animated film...
    I believe this was just made so that Shrek can win an award (which is why Jimmy Newtron was nominated) and not lose to A Beautiful Mind because it's animated.

    I admire every film so I really don't have any personal favorites. But I do think that the winners will be as follows (if I missed any, it's because I have no clue who will win):

    Best Actor:
    Russell Crowe
    Best Actress:
    Sissy Spacek
    Best Actress In Supporting Role:
    Jennifer Connelly
    Animated Film:
    Shrek
    Art Direction
    I hope that Moulin Rouge wins, but I think LOTR will
    Cinematography
    This is close, but I know Amelie and The Man Who Wasn't There wont win.
    Directing
    Ron Howard, A Beautiful Mind
    Make-Up
    LOTR
    Score
    Disapointed that Pearl Harbor wasn't nominated by I think that all of these except for Beautiful Mind and Monsters Inc are to close to tell.
    song
    I hate this song, but Kate & Leopold will probably win
    Sound Editing
    Pearl Harbor!
    Adapted Screenplay
    A Beautiful Mind
    Original Screenplay
    I hope either Memento or Monster's Ball win.
    Best Picture
    A Beautiful Mind

    Thoughts?

    Clayton

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    posted 02-12-2002 05:03 PM PT (US)     

     Hector J. Guzman
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    John Williams should definately win!!! Period. Besides, Jerry Goldsmith should get another Oscar before Shore gets one. Shore´s score is so-so, anyways...

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    posted 02-12-2002 05:33 PM PT (US)     

     Peter Criss
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    Indeed the best nominated score is A.I., following, Harry Potter.Yes, I´m a big Willimas fan, but is my opinion. And I still don´t know why LOTR get a nomination.The score is really so-so..Nothing more.
    WEll, after all is just a way to Studios make more money..
    The Catman

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    posted 02-12-2002 05:52 PM PT (US)     

     Shaun Rutherford
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    Thoughts:

    Pearl Harbor is a terrible team score that doesn't even deserve to be spoken about.

    And this line was funny:

    "But that's because of the realness."

    Shaun

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    posted 02-12-2002 07:01 PM PT (US)     

     scoreguy16
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    Thoughts on Thoughts:

    Those are your thoughts.

    Clayton

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    posted 02-12-2002 07:13 PM PT (US)     

     Lou Goldberg
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    I hate to make predictions on the Oscars because I'm consistently way off.

    I did not care for Shore's LOTR score though he may win for it because he hasn't won before. My guess is that Harry Potter will win despite the split votes. And I'd prefer that, especially to a Horner win since his score to ABM was lame at best.

    As much as I'd like to see David Lynch win a best director award, chances are it will go to Ridley Scott because BHD is a director's film and because he didn't win for Gladiator.

    Chances are A Beautiful Mind will win for Best Picture but it doesn't deserve to win anything except Best Actor because it was absolutely horrible.

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    posted 02-12-2002 08:58 PM PT (US)     

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    While I wouldn't call it terrible, Pearl Harbor certainly wasn't in the same class as what was nominated. I was sorta suprised that BHD didn't get a nod here, but not disappointed. It sounds a lot like Gladiator in a lot of spots.

    I was suprised that Harry Potter got nominated. (It's a close call but I think AI is just a hair better)Keep in mind that Williams hasn't won since 94 for Schindler's List, although has been nominated often. So I think he will still get excited if he wins.

    Beautiful Mind was doomed to get nominated. I kinda hope this doesn't get it. It's nice score but not as good as the Williams or Shore efforts.

    While I would love for Randy to win, he should have won for other scores. This is not his best work, but if he won, I could deal, no problem!

    I have to say that I hope Shore wins. The score is amazing in and out of the film and further it shows Shore's talent in way that the Academy hasn't seen before. I think it has a good chance.


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    posted 02-12-2002 09:15 PM PT (US)     

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    I am sure everyone with a working brain can tell that Shore's THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING is the best score composed in many years - that's why some people just can't dig it of course.

    But since we all know that the members of this Academy doesn't understand anything about film music (Williams getting TWO nominations again for such lame scores?), lets only hope that they think HOWARD SHORE is some obscure classical composer, just like Tan Dun or Corigliano... Otherwise they will give the Golden Dildo do James Horner again!

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    posted 02-13-2002 04:23 AM PT (US)     

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    Two lames score?... Well, for me is not the Academy members whom knows nothing about music...

    The Catman

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    posted 02-13-2002 04:38 AM PT (US)     
     

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