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    Topic:   Your first Bond score?

     TV's Frank
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    I was on the way to work this morning, listening to one of my Bond compilations (the 1960 - 1971 era, to be exact!) and was trying to remember which exact Bond score in the film made me a Bond score fan. And that was DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER.

    I remember watching that film as a kid and being completely sold on the cues for the elevator fight, the space laser sequence, and the final oil rig battle (though that theme had been used by Barry before). There was so much thematic variety in the music, traces of elegance mixed with brashness, and those harmonic building blocks of Barry just can't be beat!

    For some reason, with that film and score, I knew I had to own the music on album. However, this was before any of the CD re-issues of the original LP albums so the closest I found was a re-recording of that "007" theme on a budget Bond casette compilation. But it was all I had, so I was happy at the time.

    So, for all the Bond or Barry fans out there, which Bond score in the film really grabbed you so much that you knew you had to track down the album (much easier these days than when I started collecting!)?

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    posted 01-30-2002 08:53 AM PT (US)     

     scoreguy16
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    Tomorrow Never Dies. I spent $30 on the DVD for the isolated score.

    Clayton

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    posted 01-30-2002 09:46 AM PT (US)     

     Camillu
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    Tomorrow Never Dies.

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    posted 01-30-2002 09:52 AM PT (US)     

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    The one, the only, GOLDFINGER (on LP, of course), waaaay back, decades ago....

    (Tomorrow Never Dies! Sheesh! LOL!)

    Dan

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    posted 01-30-2002 10:08 AM PT (US)     

     BobaMike
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    My dad had some old LP's laying around- DR. No, Thunderball, FRWL, and Goldfinger!

    This was back before we had a cd player, so these were some of the first scores I ever heard!

    Q: does the LP of Thunderball have tracks not on the CD?

    BobaMike

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    posted 01-30-2002 10:13 AM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    Why, none other than the beautiful and exotic score from You Only Live Twice! My all-time favorite Bond film.

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    posted 01-30-2002 11:04 AM PT (US)     

     soundtrackman
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    Okay, this will date me, but it was "Dr. No," and I think that was the first official soundtrack LP I ever bought as well.

    Mark T.

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    posted 01-30-2002 11:13 AM PT (US)     

     scoreguy16
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    I am sure that if I were older, I would've said one of the original bonds before the Brosnan era. But I am only 16 so I guess it's in my nature to go for the modern sounding one.

    Clayton

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    posted 01-30-2002 11:28 AM PT (US)     

     Stephen Lister
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    Mine was the double LP, "The James Bond Collection - Special 10th Anniversary Edition" which featured highlights from all the Bond scores up to Diamonds Are Forever. Great foldout with a booklet. On the back cover it says "Also available on 8 track cartridge". Anybody here ever have any of them?

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    posted 01-30-2002 12:32 PM PT (US)     

     Gae
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    I think the first Bond score I bought was Dr. No. I seem to remember that apart from the "fantastic" James Bond theme, I didn't really care for the rest of the LP. I mean who really wants to hear 3 different versions of "Underneath the Mango Tree"?

    It was only years later that I found out that the "theme" was actually composed by John Barry and not Monty Norman at all. The two films though that really got me into the music were "You Only Live Twice" and "Diamonds are forever" which I saw as a double bill back in 1973. Ijust remember there was something really fantastically "exotic" and "different" about the music. In my 8 year old head, I just felt it was as "exciting", "punchy" and "flamboyant" as Bond himself!!! From then on, I started to notice the music in all the "Bond" movies continuing with "Live and Let Die", "Man with the Golden Gun" etc etc. I look back now and feel privileged to actually have been able to see some of the early Bond Connery movies in the Cinema way back in the early 70's at such a young and impressionable age.

    Gae NP Star Wars

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    posted 01-30-2002 02:05 PM PT (US)     

     TV's Frank
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    BobaMike: to my knowledge, the LP version of Thunderball had no extra tracks. That album release was rushed to the stores even though Barry had only recorded half the score for the film. The CD reissue duplicates the contents of the LP release. The 30th Anniversary 2-CD set rectified this with their inclusion of 20 minutes of the Thunderball score not on the original album. It is a must, mainly due to Barry's kick-ass finale cue utilizing his alternate "007" theme. I love that theme.

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    posted 01-30-2002 02:07 PM PT (US)     

     TV's Frank
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    Gae: Wish I'd been there at that double-bill in '73!

    I agree that the DR NO album is a letdown, though the whole of Monty Norman's score for the film is a disappointment on its own. The suite recorded on Silva's Bond Back In Action Volume One is all I need of it.

    Barry's music is still exotic and unique today! That's what I find ironic. It's rare that it is ever topped in terms of unique action/adventure scoring techniques, but Barry's style is highly personal and individual so it would be difficult for another composer to replicate.

    I did sort of expect the younger collectors to lean towards Arnold, since he is more in line with their modern perception of film scoring. When I started collecting Bond scores (and scores in general), my favorites tended to be the ones composed in the late 70's/early-mid 80's. Basically, the Moore & Dalton eras. But now that I'm around 30 years old, my favorite Bond scores tend to be from the 60's films, especially OHMSS and YOLT. LIVING DAYLIGHTS, though, is one of the more recent Bond scores (relatively speaking) which will always be in my top five!


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    posted 01-30-2002 02:18 PM PT (US)     

     OHMSS76
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    My first exposure to Bond was rather recent....I had always wanted to see and hear these films/scores, but had waited for the right time. I wanted to see/hear them all from the beginning to the end, since I had a feeling I'd enjoy the series, and want all the albums.

    So, one night my X brought home DR. NO, and said it's time to experience the world of Bond!
    Suffice to say, I was hooked after that....that very weekend, I rented the next three films, picked up the CD for FRWL( I still don't have the CD of DR.NO, since the score was a total joke to me), and the 2Cd Anniversary set.

    The only piece I had been exposed to before all this, was the string arr. of We Have All The Time In The World on the MOVIOLA album, and thought it was the greatest thing....then when I got around to OHMSS, this cemented my love of 007(obviously, dig the screen name!lol), since I find the film and score the best of the series, emotionally, comically, and action-wise.

    Thanks for reading, or skipping over this post
    Sean

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    posted 01-30-2002 03:07 PM PT (US)     

     OHMSS76
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    PS...I have to add that for all the younger fans, they should, if really interested in the films, rent the terrific SE DVD's chronologically, and you may find yourself more enamored with the Barry scores.

    The Arnold scores are good, but a bit overblown, like the films he is scoring, but this is what Bond has always been about, so it's a catch-22 for me I guess.

    And I LOVE the fact that ABC Night At The Movies is replaying these during prime time, something that exposed many fans(Hi Roger Feigelson!) to these films in the 80's.

    Sean

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    posted 01-30-2002 03:10 PM PT (US)     

     TV's Frank
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    Thanks for sharing, Sean, I was hoping you'd contribute! I have never got around to asking your screen name, but certainly noticed its significance.
    By the way, DR NO is that rare case where I like the film, but hate the score. How often does that happen?

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    posted 01-30-2002 03:12 PM PT (US)     

     Timmer
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    I read all the above and agree with all the above!

    It's taken me a long time but I actually enjoy Arnold's efforts with Bond though he'll never really replace Barry for me!

    As was said earlier, there's something about Barry's music for Bond, there's an excitement, a larger than lifeness and most importantly (and this is really sadly lacking in Arnold's music) an erotic sexyness in the sound that few if any composers have been able to emulate, dammit, even Barry's ACTION music is sexy!

    Just for the record, the first Bond film I saw on it's release was Diamonds Are Forever when I was a mere 10 years old (if you know your dates you should be able to work my age out )! However, I first saw Bond a year or so before on a double bill of Thunderball and You Only Live Twice

    Sean, OHMSS has always been my FAVORITE Bond film AND score...an unbelievable amount of score was left off of the original release, I hope this'll be rectified when (if ever?) EMI re-release the whole series.

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    posted 01-30-2002 05:51 PM PT (US)     

     Swashbuckler
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    Well, the first Bond score I really got into was The Living Daylights. Ths was followed closely by Goldfinger (I loved the "Dawn Raid on Fort Knox" cue), but my favorite today is probably On Her Majesty's Secret Service.

    TV's Frank, ditto on that awesome variation on the "007" theme that Barry did for the finale of Thunderball. That's my favorite version of it.

    Face it, all of Barry's contributions to the series have been great, but everything from From Russia With Love ("James Bond With Bongos"!!!) through Diamonds Are Forever (the variations on the slinky theme for Mr. Wint and Mr. Kidd) are the yardstick by which all Bond scores are measured... with the exception, of course, of "Do You Know How Christmas Trees Are Grown?"

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    posted 01-30-2002 07:33 PM PT (US)     

     Christian Madsen
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    My first Bond soundtrack was the compilation "30th Anniversary Collection". the single CD. It was also my first CD with film music, and so did my interest start. (Today I have more than 1550 original soundtrack CDs).
    I got this CD for Christmas in 1992. Not many stores in Denmark did import CDs from USA, but at last I found a store, which was able to get THE SPY WHO LOVED ME. It was one of my first ten score CDs among some John Barry CDs and a compilation by Henry Mancini.
    Today my favorite composer is still John Barry, and my favorite Bond scores include THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS, FOR YOUR EYES ONLY, THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN etc. Actually i love all Bond scores exerpt from Goldeneye and Licence to Kill (Michael Kamen is a great composer, he just don't have the Bond sound).
    Tomorrow Never Dies is also great (the song performed by k.d.lang is my favorite Bond song), but the last score from TWINE is quite boring. Track 3 is the only interesting on this disc.

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    posted 01-31-2002 02:06 PM PT (US)     

     OHMSS76
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    Tim-mer!!!

    Yep, wouldn't you know it that 'my' Bond film/score has the distinction of including the ghastliest piece of music known to man...Xmas trees,yada yada. Horrendous.

    There is a ton missing, but I'm sure that all that legal biz will get settled someday, and we'll have the full monty!

    Huzzah!
    Sean

    PS...Licence To Kill is a good Kamen score, a passable Bond score, and has the most throwaway title song known to man...maybe they mixed this up, using a throwaway source song as the title, and not wanting to fix it? Any thoughts? Blah!

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    posted 01-31-2002 02:15 PM PT (US)     

     Timmer
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    Aw Sean, now don't be telling me ya think 'Christmas Tree's' is bad when we both know that it's the epitome of very good taste, Rogers and Hammerstein woulda lost an arm each to write something of this magnitude

    p.s. I really like that waltz like theme that plays over the speakers during the ice rink part in OHMSS

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    posted 01-31-2002 05:27 PM PT (US)     

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    Would have to be the LP from Live and Let Die...however, something was wrong with the LP because the needle would just slide across the record. So, I took it back and exchanged it for a cassette.

    (Obviously this would be long ago pre-CD era.)

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    posted 02-01-2002 08:21 AM PT (US)     

     Valmar
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    Goldeneye.......

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    posted 02-01-2002 04:31 PM PT (US)     

     Timmer
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    Goldeneye....

    ...and your point being Valmar?

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    posted 02-01-2002 05:57 PM PT (US)     

     Christian Madsen
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    In which movie does your favorite version of the James Bond Theme appear?

    I like the versions from THE SPY WHO LOVED ME, TOMORROW NEVER DIES and THE WORLD IS NOT ENOGH very much. I think taht they all are great updates of the theme and David Arnold is blowing it into the new millennium this way!
    The worst version: The album version of A PLEASANT DRIVE IN ST. PETERSBURG from Goldeneye!!!!!

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    posted 02-02-2002 08:03 AM PT (US)     

     Gae
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    David Arnold blowing the James Bond theme into the New Millenium....What an image that conjures up!!

    Gae

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    posted 02-02-2002 09:10 AM PT (US)     

     Timmer
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    While watching Goldeneye the other day I temp tracked the 'Tank' sequence with John Barry's muscular 'Golden Gate Fight' from A View To A Kill and it worked magnificently! ...and showed just how limited even John Altman's effort was in this film.

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    posted 02-02-2002 10:05 AM PT (US)     

     Christian Madsen
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Timmer:
    While watching Goldeneye the other day I temp tracked the 'Tank' sequence with John Barry's muscular 'Golden Gate Fight' from A View To A Kill and it worked magnificently! ...and showed just how limited even John Altman's effort was in this film.


    A rerecording of John Altmans version is available on the Silva Screen compilation "Bond Back In Action 2" performed by The City Of Prague Philharmonic orchestra conducted by Nic Raine.

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    posted 02-02-2002 02:13 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Christian Madsen:
    A rerecording of John Altmans version is available on the Silva Screen compilation "Bond Back In Action 2" performed by The City Of Prague Philharmonic orchestra conducted by Nic Raine.

    ...and Altman himself was mortified at how bad it sounded compared to what he wrote and recorded for the film.

    Dan

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    posted 02-02-2002 02:33 PM PT (US)     

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    My favorite version of the Bond theme? No question... "James Bond With Bongos" from From Russia With Love.

    My runner-up is "This Never Happened to the Other Fella" from On Her Majesty's Secret Service.

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    posted 02-03-2002 12:30 PM PT (US)     

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    My first Bond score was the LP for A View To A Kill.

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    posted 02-03-2002 01:13 PM PT (US)     

     Bulldog
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    From Russia With Love

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    posted 02-04-2002 10:45 AM PT (US)     

     TV's Frank
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    I agree, Swashbuckler, those are excellent versions of the Bond theme. The Moog sythn element in OHMSS is one of the many outstanding elements of that score and it has always been in my top five Bond scores list.
    For the pure cheese factor, the Bond theme version in "A Drive in the Country" from FOR YOUR EYES ONLY is a fav!

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    posted 02-04-2002 02:17 PM PT (US)     

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    On Her Majesty's Secret Service is just one of the best film scores ever. The music is full of variety; the psychedelic Bond theme, the beautiful Alpine setpieces, the breathless action music, "We Have All the Time in the World," the great cocktail material; and yet it all comes together and sounds like one score.

    An amazing accomplishment by Barry. Of course, the film itself deserved the first-class treatment he gave it...

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    posted 02-04-2002 08:19 PM PT (US)     

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    Thank you Swash, I surely couldn't have said it better myself....it is the kitchen sink score, yet those elements are top drawer....unlike todays kitchen sink scores, where they just throw in endless non-thematic orch.,chorus,synths,etc,etc ad nauseum.

    The balance of action, romance, locale, comedy, drama in OHMSS is unbeatable!

    Best,
    Sean

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    posted 02-05-2002 09:16 AM PT (US)     

     Bulldog
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    OHMSS, I think, has too much variety.

    Most exceptional film in the series, hands down, though....

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    posted 02-05-2002 04:44 PM PT (US)     

     Timmer
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    Another point I like about OHMSS is that this is the film where Bond really HAS to rely on his wits without the use of gadgets, using a broken eraser, tearing out his pocket linings , and improvising with only one ski etc!

    Don't understand your 'variety' tag though Bulldog, do you mean film, score, both, or what?

    NP : Previn conducts Korngold

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    posted 02-05-2002 05:15 PM PT (US)     

     Christian Madsen
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    OHMSS does also contain the great theme "Who Will Buy My Yesterday?". It is only available on two compilation CDs:
    Ready when you are, JB (Pendulum Records, conducted by john Barry)
    Bond Back in Action (Silva Screen, conducted by Nic Raine)

    I hope they will make it into the complete score album some day...

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    posted 02-06-2002 04:20 PM PT (US)     

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    My first Bond score was The World is Not Enough. And that's my only Bond score . I need to get more Bond scores.

    NP: Pearl Harbor (Hans Zimmer)

    Jz

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    posted 02-06-2002 05:00 PM PT (US)     

     TV's Frank
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    Great point, Christian! That cue was one of the most evocative in the score and I'm glad Barry expanded on it for his old CBS Records collections. That has always been a favorite of mine as well.

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    posted 02-06-2002 05:01 PM PT (US)     

     Timmer
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    ...and an excellent late night listening 'tune' it is too Frank! The original, though still erotic in flavour is quite melancholic in it's original form as heard in the film!

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