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Camillu

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I was browsing my trailers folder yesterday and ended up watching, for the umpteenth time, the latest Spiderman trailer. What a superbly crafted gem - as far as trailers go this is one nifty piece of work.Which other trailers do you consider to be very high standard, not necessarily becuase of the film they represent but because of their use of music, editing, and great shots.
A few that spring to mind are Episode 1, LOTR, The Matrix, Judge Dredd and Pearl Harbour.
Any more favourites out there?I was also wondering -
Who directs trailers? Are they made by the director, or some studio executive?The floor is yours.......
posted 01-26-2002 01:45 AM PT (US) 
Hasta
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Yes, trailers are often (especially this day in age) the best part of the film!Agreed with a few of yours... Pearl Harbor -- what, what an amazing trailer... Then there was the film... For shame...
What else is there? Hmmm... Generally Bruckheimer's films tend to have good trailers, I remember being stoked for Armageddon because the trailer was so slick.
The Patriot also had a great trailer, then there was the film...
Now that I think of it, all the best trailers are for doggedly average films.
Most anything that uses a great piece of film music in it doesn't have a hard time looking good. I agree with you on Spider-Man, great trailer; much thanks should go to E.S. Posthumus for that one.
One the side of BAD trailers, however, is the recent trailer for When We Were Soldiers... My god, can this film look ANY worse?
posted 01-26-2002 03:39 AM PT (US) 
Kevin
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Originally posted by Camillu:
quote:
Who directs trailers? Are they made by the director, or some studio executive?Usually they are done by specialty houses like (in LA) The Ant Farm, Craig Murray Productions, and Tony Silver Films.
A friend of mine works for one of them, and has done quite a few of the trailers over the years. Usually the trailer company puts it together, then shows it to the studio for approval/changes, etc.
Kevin
[Message edited by Kevin on 01-26-2002]
posted 01-26-2002 06:59 AM PT (US) 
Norman McCay

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On the topic of recent trailers, I personally thought Black Hawk Down was really well done, though it extracted virtually all of the emotional elements from the movie, and somewhat "false-advertised" the movie's content by pushing too much of the bonding between the soldiers as opposed to what the movie actually portrayed--the actual incident as objectively as possible in a movie medium (leaving out the Somali perspective naturally). Moby and Handel were incorporated just right, and Zimmer provided his own TTRL cues which were extremely appropriate. The subsequent BHD teasers just couldn't hold their weight against the original trailer.Hasta here mentioned E.S. Posthumus, and I just wanted to say that I just received their "Unearthed" CD yesterday in the mail and I must say I have never listened to any single CD three times in one day (consecutively I might add). Not only did Spider-Man utilize "Pompeii" to its full potential, but I could almost swear that the Time Machine trailer also used the track "Tikal" in the beginning of the trailer, and I think even the trailer for John Q got in on the action with the use of "Nara" in its beginning. That's adding to a growing list of movies that haved used their music....Planet of the Apes being one (though I really don't recall the trailer because Elfman--now this is just my opinion here--royally botched the music when it came to the actual film).
While I am on the subject of of appropriate trailer music, the same case could be said for the Matrix, where Enigma's "Cross of Changes" got so much publicity for it. And we all know that the king of trailer music still has to be Carl Orff's Carmina Burana - O Fortuna....
I think this whole must-have-music-in-the-background idea is really rubbing off me, changing the way I view trailers. Basically if the music is used right, the trailer is guaranteed to be good (unfortunately not so with the actual movies).
I agree with the horrible trailer for We Were Soldiers, but I also have to add the Star Wars trailer, the one featuring Anakin and Queen Amidala focusing on their romance. My god. It's hands down the most corny trailer EVER made. Did anyone else think that Hayden Christenson can't act? His dialogue (and his delivery) was just horrible that I actually think that they should have just age-accelerated Jake Lloyd.
posted 01-26-2002 08:55 AM PT (US) 
dgoldwas

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quote:
Originally posted by Norman McCay:
And we all know that the king of trailer music still has to be Carl Orff's Carmina Burana - O Fortuna....Actually, I would venture to suggest that COME SEE THE PARADISE has overtaken the CARMINA BURANA...

Dan
posted 01-26-2002 10:01 AM PT (US) 
Camillu

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Have to agree with you on "We Were Soldiers"Other recent trailers that failed to tickle my fancy were:
Dragonfly
The Mothman Prophecies
SignsOn a positive note - the new Bad Company trailer has some hilarious moments.
posted 01-26-2002 01:40 PM PT (US) 
Graham Watt

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There are indeed some great trailers out there, so I feel rather guilty about being a sour grape and pointing out a really bad one I saw today: VANILLA SKY. Is that some kind of romantic comedy? I don't want to pre-judge the movie, but as a Hollywood version of Alejandro Amenábar's stunning ABRE LOS OJOS, I'm hoping for more than what we're offered in the teaser. By the way, as I'm in sour grape mode, Spanish TV compared two scenes today, one with Eduardo Noriega running down deserted city streets to the sound of Amenábar's chilling original score, and the almost identical scene of Cruise running down deserted city streets to the sound of pop music. Oh, I KNOW I'm an old grump, but...
posted 01-26-2002 04:20 PM PT (US) 
John Zimmer

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Well a few of my favorite trailers are...Episode II (This looks sooooooo cool
)
The Lord of The Rings: The Fellowship of The Ring (What a cool movie)
Harry Potter and The Sorcerer's Stone (This is another great film)
Planet of The Apes (And then there was the acctual film
)
Monsters, Inc. (Great film too!)
Titan A.E. (What a film!!)
A Beautiful Mind (Looks pretty good too!)That's all that comes to mind.

Jz
posted 01-26-2002 04:48 PM PT (US) 
James

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Graham,Vanilla Sky is most definitely not a romantic comedy. I've heard many people complain about the trailer misrepresenting the film, but in all honesty I can't see any possible way to portray the film accurately in the trailer without giving away something crucial to the element of surprise.
My favorite trailer of 2001 was most definitely the stunningly subtle one and one-half minutes that advertised The Man Who Wasn't There. With most trailers you get the impression of a salesman five inches from your face, proclaiming in a loud, booming voice all the shocking and exciting reasons their film should be seen. But with The Man, it seems more like a mysterious stranger on the street has just whispered all life's secret's into your ear, but it was so fleeting that both he and his secrets are gone in an instant. Thus, you're forced to seek out the answers (the film) just to learn once again what the stranger was talking about. Most importantly, the film paid off completely.
If you haven't seen it:
http://www.movie-list.com/m/manwhowasntthere.shtmlKirk
NP - The Man Who Wasn't There (****)posted 01-26-2002 10:44 PM PT (US) 
Camillu

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Good call with regards to The Man Who Wasn't There - can't wait to see that film...It's true how some trailers can't really give credit to the film they protray and end up being somewhat of a turnoff.....
Vanilla Sky is one example, and I felt very much the same way after watching Shrek - ok, maybe not a turn-off, but definetely not worthy of the film.
Incidentally, the fan-made trailer commemorating the 20th anniversary of Raiders of the Lost Ark was superbly done.... but I'm not sure it's still available since the site is off (indy20.com)
Other good ones:
Hannibal
X-Men
The New Scooby Doo teaser
Off to Download Titan A.E. trailer.......
posted 01-27-2002 02:12 AM PT (US) 
Graham Watt

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Oh, yes, that SCOOBY DOO trailer was great!
posted 01-27-2002 12:08 PM PT (US) 
John Zimmer

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Oh yeah that Scooby Doo trailer was great!
Jz
posted 01-27-2002 02:40 PM PT (US) 
Kosh

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MEMENTO:Superb movie, horrible trailer.
I'm not sure if they're the same, but the one showing on Viewer's Choice is just pitiful. They basically put 3 or 4 scenes from the movie together, back to back, and they don't make ANY sense whatsoever unless you've seen the film. There's no progression, and I'm sure tons of people were turned off by the trailer.
But if you haven't seen MEMENTO, go! Right now! That's an order!
posted 01-27-2002 02:43 PM PT (US) 
Norman McCay

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I know everyone probably hated PEARL HARBOR the movie, but I have been tuning in every hour and an half or so on my DirecTV PPV channels just to check out and watch/hear the trailer. Now I am not sure if this was the same trailer shown in theaters (or the downloadable versions), but for those who have DirecTV, it's worth checking out because the trailer is beautifully edited and put together and there's hardly any voice-overs except one line about the declaration of war on Japan.Here's a trailer music question for those who know what I am talking, was this awesome trailer music from the movie? I ask because I never did get around to seeing this movie thanks to all those around me telling me how it was one of the worst movies they have ever seen, and I didn't attend the theaters for a good chunk of 2001 so I missed seeing the trailers in theater. I own the score but have heard that a huge chunk of the music was missing (3 hours of the movie vs. 40 minutes of the music; a big discrepancy there), and as far as my memory goes, I don't recall hearing this theme in the 8 tracks available on CD. I tried Soundtrack.net but I wasn't sure if their listings of the various trailers match the DirecTV version. I can't D/L any of the trailers because I'm one of the few technological primates still using 56K, though running even lower than that. Any help?
Here's one last question. I have already bought the 2-DVD set once, but I returned it because I discovered the movie itself was split on TWO DVDs, and now this trailer really got me craving to hear more of Zimmer's music so I am tempted to buy it again. So my question is this: is the movie really that bad like everyone else says it is?
posted 01-27-2002 07:13 PM PT (US) 
Lightborne

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Hold your phone, Norman. I know you're anxious, but don't go out and re-purchase PEARL HARBOR, at least the one that's out. It has been confirmed that a four disc PEARL HARBOR set will be released, I believe in May. One of my best friends in L.A. is the a great friend of David Britten Prior who produced the PEARL HARBOR dvd. I am sure the trailers you seek will be on that May release.
posted 01-27-2002 07:31 PM PT (US) 
Camillu

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Saw another great trailer today - Finding ForresterGreat use of music. Any trailer with Shawshank wins me over.
Film wasn't bad either.
posted 02-11-2002 02:17 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
