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      My BRIDGE OF KHAZAD-DUM is too damn short!!

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    Topic:   My BRIDGE OF KHAZAD-DUM is too damn short!!

     André Lux
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    I want the full thing, with all that powerful chorus that is not featured in the "official" album!!

    This needs to be fixed quite soon!

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    posted 01-23-2002 07:59 PM PT (US)     

     Dinko
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    Once more, I open the door,
    and I know that my heart will go on...

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    posted 01-23-2002 08:08 PM PT (US)     

     Dana Wilcox
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    Sorry to hear it's so short...but I hear they have surgery for that sort of thing these days!

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    posted 01-23-2002 08:44 PM PT (US)     

     HadrianD
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    :EEK:

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    posted 01-23-2002 09:04 PM PT (US)     

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    I would really have to thank the sound mixer for the Moria sequence....letting Shore's "Hhoo, hhoo, hhoo" chorus take center stage as our hapless heroes first descend the stairs. Even after a 5th viewing, it still gives me goosebumps.

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    posted 01-23-2002 09:39 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Dinko:
    Once more, I open the door,
    and I know that my heart will go on...

    I can't believe you just said that

    --Brian


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    posted 01-23-2002 10:47 PM PT (US)     

     Camillu
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    Although it is obviously necessary in the film, I was quite dissappointed that the huge sound effects as the 2 bits of bridge slam together overshadow the best statement of the Fellowship theme in the whole score......

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    posted 01-24-2002 02:44 AM PT (US)     

     André Lux
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    quote:
    Originally posted by SPQR:
    I would really have to thank the sound mixer for the Moria sequence....letting Shore's "Hhoo, hhoo, hhoo" chorus take center stage as our hapless heroes first descend the stairs. Even after a 5th viewing, it still gives me goosebumps.

    Yes, me too!

    That's why I am so frustrated with the score release, since the best part of it was left out...

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    posted 01-24-2002 06:38 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Agreed, that bit is one of the best. I hope we'll get a longer release soon (same thing with Chess Game from Potter, BTW, where you notice even more that some great bits are missing).

    NP: Ride With the Devil (Mychael Danna) - With thanks to Timmer!

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    posted 01-24-2002 10:04 AM PT (US)     

     Jared Cowing
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    I have to agree with everyone- of course, that track was pretty long even not complete, but I think that they left out some very good Moria music. Ah, well- you can't fit everything in...

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    posted 01-24-2002 05:55 PM PT (US)     

     André Lux
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Jared Cowing:
    Ah, well- you can't fit everything in...

    Oh, but the album is only 71 minutes long.
    They could easily put another 6 minutes of music there!!

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    posted 01-24-2002 06:03 PM PT (US)     

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    not with the interactive doo-doo they forced onto the CD.


    the Moria sequence has about 20 minutes of music in it. there was no way that was getting onto a 1 CD versikon of the score.

    sad.


    NP -- The Cell, Shore

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    posted 01-24-2002 08:18 PM PT (US)     

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    Come on, you know they are going to release an expanded edition

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    posted 01-25-2002 12:56 AM PT (US)     

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    It's unknown at this point, Fart.

    Jz

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    posted 01-25-2002 07:08 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    My BRIDGE OF KHAZAD-DUM is too damn short!!

    That's Z'Ha'Dum!! Besides, it was destroyed by the Drahk, who were minions of the Shadows, as they evacuated the planet after the Shadows passed beyond the Rim. Of course, the Drahk evacuation was prompted by a message sent by Lyta Alexander from hyperspace while they were on their way their with Psi-Corp Cop Bester; Lyta did this as a way to get back at Bester for all the evil he had done to the teeps. But of course, Capt. Sheridan bawled out Lyta for doing this, thus probably staring in motion the entire telepath crisis, followed by the Telepath war, and the eventual Drahk attack on Earth, releasing the virus which would wipe out all life on Earth in five years time if the mission of the Excalibur under Capt. Matthew Gideon did not succeed.

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    posted 01-25-2002 10:40 AM PT (US)     

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    Is there a doctor in the house?

    The Catman

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    posted 01-25-2002 01:16 PM PT (US)     

     André Lux
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    quote:
    Originally posted by JJH:
    not with the interactive doo-doo they forced onto the CD.


    Oh Yeah, I forgot that!

    Well, I hope we get a complete score release at some point.
    This score is too good for this tiny release...


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    posted 01-25-2002 07:58 PM PT (US)     

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    Yes, a complete release is in order. In addition to the crossing the bridge part of "The Bridge of Khazad Dum," the album track ends before the moving music for Frodo's reaction to Gandalf's fall.

    The album, while expertly edited, is way too short. Several important themes, including the "Gondor" theme and a travelling motif heard at the beginning of the Fellowship's quest, don't even appear.

    And I'd love to hear that music for the battle scene at the beginning...

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    posted 01-25-2002 08:06 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    And the mourning music after Moria might even be longer in the original version. Before the Fellowship turns to go to Lothlorien, Frodo is moving away from the group, followed by a rather harsh cut. Which leads me to believe that the Kheled-zaram scene might be in, too.

    NP: Call of the Champions

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    posted 01-25-2002 08:19 PM PT (US)     

     André Lux
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    There's a great amount of unreleased music, such as

    - Aragorn and Lurtz fight
    - The Squid Attack
    - Boromir remembers Gondor
    - The Opening sequence (complete)
    - The Mines of Moria (complete)
    - The Council of Elrond (complete)

    ... and others I can't remember now.

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    posted 01-26-2002 05:20 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    ...including countless renditions of the marvellous Ring theme!

    NP: Call of the Champions

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    posted 01-26-2002 08:43 AM PT (US)     

     Swashbuckler
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    It's all so good!

    Hm. Didn't notice any nasty edits there, Marian, but I'll be listening next time I see the film!

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    posted 01-29-2002 08:16 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    And the mourning music after Moria might even be longer in the original version

    I'm guessing that's Edward Ross again doing the vocal as they escape out into the open, but in the movie a choir comes in and continues, humming that same theme, god I loved that. Wish it was on the CD.

    You know the cue I miss most? As Aragorn and Boromir discuss Gondor there is this LOVELY cue which I could only hope is a theme to Gondor which we would hear at a later date. Indeed, I've noticed every time Gondor is mentioned variant brass themes come into play, none of them the same in theme, but most certaily in essence. In Rivendell, in Lothlorien and as Boromir passes.

    I'm probably going to sample this Lothlorien scene off the screener, because Bean's delivery of dialogue here is just so excellent anyway, I like listening to it. lol

    Dan (UK)

    [Message edited by Dan Brecher on 01-30-2002]

    [Message edited by Dan Brecher on 01-30-2002]

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    posted 01-30-2002 05:21 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Dan Brecher:
    You know the cue I miss most? As Aragorn and Boromir discuss Gondor there is this LOVELY cue which I could only hope is a theme to Gondor which we would hear at a later date.

    I've noticed it also, Dan.
    Can't remember it though. But surely was a "new" theme, different from all the rest...


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    posted 01-31-2002 11:11 AM PT (US)     

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    André , yes it's just that scene the theme appears in, and like I said there is a variation at Rivendell when Gondor is mentioned which isnt the same theme, but is again brass like the other cue.

    I'm guessing the use of brass when Gondor is mentioned is in relation to the seranade of trumpets that Boromir speaks of in the Lothlorien scene.

    Dan (UK)

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    posted 01-31-2002 12:54 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    What about the bit in the beginning when Gandalf rides to Minas Tirith? Any characteristic music there? (It's now over a month that I've seen the film, but February is approaching )

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    posted 01-31-2002 02:23 PM PT (US)     

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    Not sure, Marian. There is that real big surge of the orchestra on the establishing shot, a real grand bit which is on the cd but I wouldn't deem that a theme.

    I take it we've established Gollum does have a theme? Everytime he's mentioned or appears the score moves into a specific theme. This happens in the Prologue, when Frodo speaks of Bilbo finding the ring in Gollum's cave (when Frodo and Gandalf are having tea), when Gandalf tells Frodo that Gollum knew Bilbo had the ring and once again in Moria when Frodo sees Gollum.

    Dan (UK)

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    posted 01-31-2002 05:41 PM PT (US)     

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    I think that the thematic material for Gondor at Rivendell and Lothlorien seems to be the same, but the orchestration is very different. The last time I saw the film I really listened for it.

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