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Valmar Oscar® Nominee	Did anybody like the score? I was just watching it today and i thought it was HORRIBLE!!
posted 01-16-2002 01:26 AM PT (US)

Hasta Oscar® Winner	Valmar, I thought it went wonderfully myself... At one point in time, I highly regarded the film, but watching it recently I came to the realiziation that it isn't quite as good as I remembered, and got overly silly quite a bit (though it's still Woo's best American film). The score helped it a bunch IMO, though; over the top just like the film.
posted 01-16-2002 01:41 AM PT (US)

Camillu Oscar® Winner	The rest may be quite mediocre, but "Ready for the Big Ride Bubba" works extremely well on CD and on screen. Powell's theme is great. For me at least.
posted 01-16-2002 07:41 AM PT (US)

Tim_P Oscar® Winner	I remember a few years ago I quickly dismissed Powell's FACE/OFF- but now I love it. His main theme is wonderful- it's gorgeous in its simplicity. I also think some of the action material is some of the better 90's MV synth-action. A few of the cues are a bit choppy and schizophrenic, but for the most part I find the album quite enjoyable. Tim NP: Atlantis- The Lost Empire Oscar Promo (74 minutes)
posted 01-16-2002 09:28 AM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	I really enjoyed Powell's score to FACE/OFF - to bad there's a lot of good music in the film not presented on the album. Dan
posted 01-16-2002 09:39 AM PT (US)

Norman McCay Oscar® Winner	Tracks 1, 3, and 8 define the score. This was probably the first film that got John Powell on the map, and I recommend "Just Visiting" if you enjoyed Ready for the "Big Ride Bubba" or even "Chicken Run." But seriously, I thought Face/Off was John Powell's most sophisticated work to date, and track 3 scored the entire airport action sequence so beautifully. The theme for Castor Troy is brilliant and is my favorite "cool guy" theme of all time.
posted 01-16-2002 09:47 AM PT (US)

HadrianD Oscar® Winner	I still think that this is the quintessential John Powell score. His trademark action licks are well established. There's a sort of fun atmostphere to his action styling. The themes are very well written though it does so through Media Ventures type orchestrations. Dan's right, alot of the good stuff was omitted from the album, but it's a good album nonetheless.
posted 01-16-2002 10:46 AM PT (US)

Quill Oscar® Winner	Has anyone else noticed that Powell's theme popped up once or twice in Broken Arrow...I instance I clearly remember is the moment where Christian Slater is standing looking into the sunrise after having been punched out of the stealth bomber...sorry that's not really relevant. Anyway--quite an enjoyable score!
posted 01-16-2002 12:18 PM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Quill: Has anyone else noticed that Powell's theme popped up once or twice in Broken Arrow... Wouldn't you mean that Zimmer's theme showed up in FACE/OFF? After all... BROKEN ARROW was 1996, and FACE/OFF was 1997...... Dan
posted 01-16-2002 01:23 PM PT (US)

Hornerfan Oscar® Winner	From what I remember reading somewhere (I haven't verified this for myself), the Face/Off theme is that particular Broken Arrow theme inverted. Don't quote me though, since I'm not positive. Mike NP: Evolution, Powell
posted 01-16-2002 01:30 PM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Oscar® Winner	Broken Arrow was actually '95.... But I love this score! This is my favorite Powell score. Clayton NP-The Thin Red Line (Hans Zimmer)
posted 01-16-2002 03:05 PM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by scoreguy16: Broken Arrow was actually '95.... Ya know, I thought it was too, but then I checked: it was actually released in the USA in Feb of 1996. Dan
posted 01-16-2002 03:10 PM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Oscar® Winner	Dan is correct. Yes, I wrote that. About 5 years ago or so, I was on one of the boards bitching about the Face/Off theme being "stolen" from Broken Arrow, and nobody agreed with me. Welcome to my world, bitches. Shaun
posted 01-16-2002 03:27 PM PT (US)

André Lux Oscar® Winner	I remember the movie was so laughable (guys change faces and deceive everyone, even their WIVES??? ) that I didn't even paid attention to the score. Which was a good thing, after all it's from some Zimmer's pet...
posted 01-16-2002 03:52 PM PT (US)

scoreguy16 Oscar® Winner	Broken Arrow was released in the summer of '95. The video was able to be purchased in Feb I think. But I KNOW it was released in the summer of 95 because... Well I just do! Clayton
posted 01-16-2002 06:20 PM PT (US)

HadrianD Oscar® Winner	Well somebody must be smokin some deep buttcrack to think that the Castor Troy is a lift of Deakin's theme (inverting crap). Sure they were used in the same manner (cool guitar licks for villain). Both were a Woo flick and both themes kicka$$. So don't make me kick your A$$
posted 01-16-2002 07:51 PM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Oscar® Winner	Clay, you were like, 10 when that came out. You shouldn't have been able to see it until.......well, now. It came out in '96. Look at the copyright on the disc. Shaun
posted 01-16-2002 08:25 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Before developing movietunes.com for Hollywood Online, my co-workers and I produced little multimedia kits for the studios. These kits fit on a floppy disc, and were pre-historic in quality compared to the many advancements brought about by the internet and faster computers these days, but back then it was the innovative thing. Anyway, I distinctly recall a Feb 96 deadline on the Broken Arrow kit. As for the Face/Off album, it's in a world of hurt. It's missing the Olivia Newton-John version of "Somewhere over the Rainbow" (this is the biggest complaint registered so far, and frankly will remain that way), and the score selection and presentation is rough. Valmar, considering all this, I wonder if you actually might like the score on the album? Weirder things have happened.
posted 01-16-2002 08:40 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	Oh yeah. Welcome to Shaun's world all you beyahtchies.
posted 01-16-2002 08:43 PM PT (US)

Valmar Oscar® Nominee	A HUGE reason why i like movie scores is the emotion it brings when you listen to it, like being in the movie itself or being able to relax and stuff with the movie. While listening to alot of music scores without the movies and then all of a sudden watchin Face/Off i noticed how horrible the score is. Also, i jacked my friends face off since i left mine at my parents home in kent (i'm dorming and away at college) and noticed that somewhere over the rainbow wasn't on the soundtrack as well. Broken Arrow is actually what got me into Movie Scores and is still one of my favorite soundtracks...but i dunno about Face Off because I swear i could've watched the movie on mute and felt the same way while watching it with the music on. Just my opinion..... [Message edited by Valmar on 01-17-2002]
posted 01-17-2002 02:27 AM PT (US)

Quill Oscar® Winner	You're right about the release dates Dan...my point was could a snippet of Powell's music been incorporated into Broken Arrow...then he expanded it for his own release. I think there is quite a few folks around here that believe Zimmer doesn't even right half of the music for a film that he gets credit for. But as I said before...this point in irrelevant and unimportant.
posted 01-17-2002 08:56 AM PT (US)

HadrianD Oscar® Winner	One thing I've always counted on Hans is that he gives credit where it is due. Come on, he didn't have to give a credit of the composers who does additional music for him but he does anyway. Not many can say that.
posted 01-17-2002 10:00 AM PT (US)

Norman McCay Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Valmar: Also, i jacked my friends face off since i left mine at my parents home in kent (i'm dorming and away at college) For a second there I really thought Valmar took his friend's "face, off." Loved Nicolas Cage's version of Sean Archer's version of Castor Troy's quotes. Yeah.
posted 01-17-2002 12:57 PM PT (US)

JJH Oscar® Winner	Face/ Off is a terribly silly film. I've always thought it was rather overrated. I LOVE the opening theme from the score. the rest is just not up to the level of Powell's recent output.
posted 01-17-2002 11:30 PM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Oscar® Winner	"Also, i jacked my friends face off" That's sick, dude. Shaun
posted 01-18-2002 10:14 AM PT (US)

Cimarron Oscar® Nominee	I like the music for Face/Off a lot. The main theme is excellent. The integration of "Since By Man Came Death" in the opening track was very cool. Powell actually used an older recording from 1992 of this piece by Handel... NP: Directors Cuts - Action (*/***)
posted 01-18-2002 12:17 PM PT (US)

Valmar Oscar® Nominee	I need to stop posting when i'm drunk... I didn't mean to type "I jacked my friends face off".....dammit....
posted 01-18-2002 04:03 PM PT (US)

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