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HAL 2000 Oscar® Winner	http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/story/sm_483948.html See the link. The article explains it all but what a load of poop.
posted 01-02-2002 02:04 PM PT (US)

Graham Watt Oscar® Winner	Well, Hal, that list does beg a few questions. I wouldn't like to pre-judge Classic FM listeners, and from what I gather the station has been quite respectful towards film music, but, for example, do those who voted for Adolph Deutsch's Some Like It Hot really have any idea what it sounds like?
posted 01-02-2002 02:20 PM PT (US)

Mark Olivarez Oscar® Winner	Yeah you are right, they have no idea what they are talking about if they put Gladiator and Titanic in the top 10.
posted 01-02-2002 04:09 PM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	"This chart proves that John Williams is the undisputed master of the movie soundtrack." Actually, that chart proves nothing. It just proves that Williams is more engraved into people's minds when it comes to soundtracks. Dan
posted 01-02-2002 04:38 PM PT (US)

JJH Oscar® Winner	poll? I would like to see the original question and how it was asked. Were readers given only a choice of 10? If so, that might explain the inclusion of Adolph Deutsch, surely NOT a household name. I consider merely a sign of the times when pap like Titanic and Gladiator can overcome such worthy scores as Ben-Hur and The Magnificent Se7en.
posted 01-02-2002 04:40 PM PT (US)

Bulldog Oscar® Winner	This reminds me of when George Lucas called John Williams the undisputed master of film music at the awards-show-to-make-you-hate-all-awards-shows a couple of years back. Um, like, George and Simon, it seems to me that there are a whole lot of people that would like to dispute your claim. Harkening back to the words of Grace the Secretary in Ferris Bueller's Day Off, I think this makes George and Simon look like asses. [Message edited by Bulldog on 01-02-2002]
posted 01-02-2002 07:24 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	Gladiator....oh please..... --Brian
posted 01-02-2002 09:33 PM PT (US)

Graham Watt Oscar® Winner	Did anybody see the Entertainment Weekly list of best soundtracks, published in the latest FSM? It's unsurprising, and just goes to show we're all really REALLY weird! But we knew that anyway.
posted 01-03-2002 02:27 PM PT (US)

Ken S Oscar® Winner	It's funny that, for me, Adolph Deutsch's score for SOME LIKE IT HOT has a special position in the initiation of my love towards film music. It's truly an enjoyable score that works splendidly in the context of the film and has very strong melodies to stand perfectly on its own. It may not be as "original" as a film score should be, but what the hell - the music WORKS and SOUNDS GOOD and has that "Golden, Classic 50's Hollywood Sound" in it. Plus, John Williams plays the piano In case you guys haven't heard it, Rykodisc's "Deluxe Edition" is a nice start listening to Deutsch's score - plus all the classic songs. KEN
posted 01-03-2002 03:31 PM PT (US)

Graham Watt Oscar® Winner	I'm not familiar with the Deutsch score, Ken. I'm sure it is really good, but I still wonder if those who voted for it had ever really heard it. It's not really "public domain" like Star Wars, is it? Just ask the guy next door!
posted 01-04-2002 03:56 PM PT (US)

Graham Watt Oscar® Winner	Ah!- "...plus all the classic songs." NOW I see!
posted 01-04-2002 03:58 PM PT (US)

Ken S Oscar® Winner	Well, Graham, it is true that a picture like SOME LIKE IT HOT IS remembered because of those classic songs sung by Marilyn Monroe - "I Wanna Be Loved by You", "Runnin' Wild", and "I'm Thru with Love" - and these songs were NOT composed NOR supervised by Deutsch. Yet, Adolph Deutsch IS famous for his music directing duties on such movie musicals as THE BAND WAGON, SEVEN BRIDES FOR SEVEN BROTHERS, OKLAHOMA, ANNIE GET YOUR GUN, and FUNNY FACE, so he is definitely not a "one-score" guy and in fact, is as much "public domain" as John Williams. Besides, true Williams-fans SHOULD definitely know Deutsch's score for SOME LIKE IT HOT. KEN
posted 01-05-2002 06:13 PM PT (US)

Graham Watt Oscar® Winner	Correct, Ken, I never doubted Adolph Deutsch's abilities. What I was questioning was the reasons that made so many people vote for him. Don't forget, those who voted are Classic FM listeners, not soundtrack fans, and I still wonder if maybe some people based their opinion on just the songs, plus perhaps their awareness of the film itself. Classic FM listeners are not morons, but I imagine there's a bit of filmic ignorance in there too, akin to those who would vote for Mike Oldfield's wonderful score for The Exorcist (Tubular Bells, yeah!) over, say, Total Recall (which had no music in it!). I'm exaggerating and being sarcastic, but do you get my point? Hoping I haven't sounded too pompous!
posted 01-06-2002 02:15 PM PT (US)

John Zimmer Oscar® Winner	Out of the choices on the list Star Wars is undoubtedly the best. Although there are better scores that should have won. Like The Empire Strikes Back! Np: Band of Brothers (Michael Kamen) **/*** Jz [Message edited by John Zimmer on 01-06-2002]
posted 01-06-2002 02:21 PM PT (US)

Ken S Oscar® Winner	Graham, I understood that you were exaggerating and being sarcastic, but was the Oldfield vs. Goldsmith thingy really only an invention of your own or was it actual information from somewhere ? I took a second glance at the article, and realized that STAR WARS, GONE WITH THE WIND, LAWRENCE OF ARABIA, CASABLANCA, THE GODFATHER and THE SOUND OF MUSIC are all "essential compilation material" - meaning that you can find the titles from almost any cheap (or high-class) compilation. Rest of the entries show that the listeners are really classical-oriented, and the entire TOP10 List has almost a label on it that the majority of the voters were women... Graham, I do see your point, and now, when I have taken a deeper, second glance at the list, I'm actually with you wondering that what on earth does SOME LIKE IT HOT on this list (- although it IS good music ). KEN
posted 01-06-2002 04:07 PM PT (US)

Graham Watt Oscar® Winner	Cheers, Ken, and as regards THE EXORCIST via TOTAL RECALL, I just made that up. Might be a good poll question, though!
posted 01-08-2002 01:53 PM PT (US)

Bulldog Oscar® Winner	No, no, don't be mistaken. All these scores are crap.
posted 01-08-2002 07:34 PM PT (US)

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