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     H ROCCO2
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    Dear Members,

    Owing to the continued interfering and biased moderation at both the Film Score Monthly and MovieMusic message boards, legal action may well be taken against Lukas Kendall and Peter Kelly in the very near future.

    Unless DANIEL2 is officially readmitted to the FSM and MM message board membership within 24 hours from this point in time formal legal proceedings will commence. In addition, a substantial reduction in the amount of biased interference from the message board moderator will be expected in future.

    During the past eight months, a detailed and extensive dossier of human rights infringements perpetrated by the moderators of the FSM and MM message boards has been prepared.....thank you to the dozen or more message board members who have aided me in the correlation of this data, we have prepared over 1,200 examples of unjust, discourteous and biased message board stewardship.......for obvious reasons you wish to remain anonymous, but I will contact you and thank you all personally in due course.

    My team of 40 highly qualified and experienced legal experts , in conjunction with their US representatives, are currently preparing the first stages in formal legal action.

    My hope is the FSM and MM message boards will become forums which celebrate freedom of expression without the need to engage in a legal battle. Indeed, if legal action does become necessary, it may well lead to the closure of the FSM and MM message boards......a situation that would suit nobody, least of all me......

    Season's Greetings

    Daniel Seamus Cunningham

    [Message edited by H ROCCO2 on 12-30-2001]

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    posted 12-30-2001 09:49 AM PT (US)     

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    Since FSM and MovieMusic.com have privately run message boards, and can run them as they see fit, I'm just wondering what sort of legal precedence you have to even consider a lawsuit?

    I mean, it's not like you paid a membership fee or signed a legal contract or something...

    "Human rights infringmements"?? LOL - I'm sorry, but that's just the funniest thing. This is a private message board. You have NO rights. I think you're confusing January 1 with April 1.

    Dan

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    posted 12-30-2001 10:07 AM PT (US)     

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    Hmmmmm. Load of bull?

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    posted 12-30-2001 10:08 AM PT (US)     

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    Cut the bullshit Danny. You don't know what you're talking about. There's good reasons why you were kicked off here. And any idiot can figure out that you'd have to contact the head of the boards, not the people on the boards themselves. Not to mention the fact that that's what would happen if this were real, which it is obviously not.

    Clayton

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    posted 12-30-2001 10:33 AM PT (US)     

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    I'm really glad Rocco isn't around to see this defamatory tripe.

    Newbies: DANIEL2 has taken the name of H ROCCO2 in the hopes of busting open some old wounds. That's what DANIEL2 does ... tries to hurt people under the guise of "freedom."

    Some time ago, a few paranoid people compiled "evidence" that Rocco and D2 were the same person. Their arguments failed to convince either Peter K, the FSM admins, or the vast majority of seasoned posters. Rocco, however, was so enthusiastically persecuted that posting here no longer became "fun" ... having to ceaselessly reassure people that you are who you say you are can put a damper on your motivation. That, combined with real-world issues that made the internet a low priority, drove him to leave.

    Even IF the McCarthy-esque individuals who defamed his name were correct -- something they couldn't even make a convincing case for, let alone prove -- they exorcised the wrong demon.

    H ROCCO, the well-spoken, knowledgeable, polite, witty and always POSITIVE poster (whom I have met in person, by the way) has never been back.

    DANIEL2, destructive troll extraordinare, is still here and shows no signs of leaving.

    That's the story. You can draw your own conclusions about who was justified.

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    posted 12-30-2001 10:54 AM PT (US)     

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    <<sigh>> Another pathetic attempt by an individual with too much time on their hands. Some people shouldn't have access to the internet so they can actually LIVE.

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    posted 12-30-2001 11:43 AM PT (US)     

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    Now I've seen everything. Don't you people have better things to do with your free time?

    And besides it’s a message board! Lawsuit, blah...

    --Brian

    [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 12-30-2001]

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    posted 12-30-2001 12:11 PM PT (US)     

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    Hi Denial2,

    Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder is most effectively treated by an intensive psychological treatment program based on cognitive-behavioral principles, sometimes augmented by the use of medications. Good Luck!

    Get Well soon!

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    posted 12-30-2001 12:59 PM PT (US)     

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    lol

    --B

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    posted 12-30-2001 01:08 PM PT (US)     

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    Whoever you are...get a life.

    Team of 40 lawyers? I am sure that a "dustman" can easily afford the expense of fighting an international lawsuit, but your case probably falls short on merits.

    Specifically, what laws do you allege have been violated? (I am looking for actual citings from federal code that would be involved in the lawsuit.)

    Specifically, what rights do you allege have been violated? (Please do not bore this forum with inane ramblings about first amendment rights that only prohibit the government from passing laws to curtail free speech. This board is not under federal control or jurisdiction. It does not receive federal funds. It is a private organization, not a public one.)

    Since any filings are part of the public record, I am sure that you will not hesitate to post a copy of that filing at this board. And, since all parties of the suit have to be served, I am sure that Peter Kelly will be happy to confirm if he receives such a filing. Failure to do so will surely show this “lawsuit” to be the sham that it is.

    Your New Year’s resolution should be to find some other group of people to annoy and to get a little prospective. It is obvious that you are not welcome by the hosts of these forums. Even if the membership clamored for your company, (which it apparently does not) they are not in position legally or morally to enforce that desire. My advice is take your show to a board you have not worn your welcome out on and try it there.

    Here is the link for Filmus : http://listserv.indiana.edu/archives/filmus-l.html

    It is a PRIVATE list of some three hundred or so people who are genuinely interested in film music and will be glad to discuss it with just about any one. One word of caution: They do not suffer fools gladly.

    Here is a link for Filmtracks: http://www.filmtracks.com/

    It is a film score review board with a forum that accommodates all sorts of debate.

    [Message edited by MWRuger on 12-30-2001]

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    posted 12-30-2001 01:22 PM PT (US)     

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    Whoa now. First off, you little piss-ant Danny, these boards are private, and therefore you cannot sue them. If you want to see a board with even less freedoms than these, go to www.democratictalkradio.com. Want to talk about strict rules! I can't post there since I'm not a democrat, and I've seen the jackass mods there delete posts because a little argument (well debated I might add) broke out between a few of the posters.

    Oh yeah, I don't think you'll be reinstated here anytime soon. Peter's on vacation, and I'm sure your sorry ass is the least of his concerns over his holiday.

    And don't suggest Filmtracks to this *******! He doesn't need to pollute that board, either, with his smelly, masturbatory threads.

    Mike

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    posted 12-30-2001 01:33 PM PT (US)     

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    WOahhh talk about a bunch of **** !!! if this is true then you don't have a life. We have a great forum here, and just because you where kicked off you are going to ruine it for all of us??? I think you should get a life??

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    posted 12-30-2001 02:48 PM PT (US)     

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    Mr. "Cunningham," or whoever the hell you are, would you please just give this a rest?

    Like Dan Goldwasser said, this is a privately run board and you have obviously not been able to refrain yourself from abusing your "freedom" at this and other online message boards.

    It was all fun and games in the beginning and now it has grown quite ugly. Just go away and leave us alone.

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    posted 12-30-2001 02:53 PM PT (US)     

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    Why does that guy WANT to come back on the board? You'd think that being kicked off of here would be blessing escepesially to get away from all the weirdos that come here. (Not that I want to be kicked off .)

    Np:The Devil's Own (James Horner)

    Jz

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    posted 12-30-2001 03:02 PM PT (US)     

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    Since these Boards are private forums, if they want to say, “No shoes,
    no shirts, no service,” they have that right. It probably, however, would
    be legal for PeterK and Lukas to counter sue for unwarranted harassment!!!!!

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    posted 12-30-2001 04:05 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Wedge:
    I'm really glad Rocco isn't around to see this defamatory tripe.

    Newbies: DANIEL2 has taken the name of H ROCCO2 in the hopes of busting open some old wounds. That's what DANIEL2 does ... tries to hurt people under the guise of "freedom."

    Some time ago, a few paranoid people compiled "evidence" that Rocco and D2 were the same person. Their arguments failed to convince either Peter K, the FSM admins, or the vast majority of seasoned posters. Rocco, however, was so enthusiastically persecuted that posting here no longer became "fun" ... having to ceaselessly reassure people that you are who you say you are can put a damper on your motivation. That, combined with real-world issues that made the internet a low priority, drove him to leave.

    Even IF the McCarthy-esque individuals who defamed his name were correct -- something they couldn't even make a convincing case for, let alone prove -- they exorcised the wrong demon.

    H ROCCO, the well-spoken, knowledgeable, polite, witty and always POSITIVE poster (whom I have met in person, by the way) has never been back.

    DANIEL2, destructive troll extraordinare, is still here and shows no signs of leaving.

    That's the story. You can draw your own conclusions about who was justified.


    Just to let you know a little bit of good news, Wedge, H Rocco (not H ROCCO2) did actually respond to a thread of mine recently! Of course, when I read it I told him that I was happy to see he was back, but unfortunately he didn't answer to that one. I think he still visits both boards but his posts are now few and far between. It truly saddens me as I feel we are all worse off without his input on our threads and in our lives. I miss you terribly, Rocco, if you're out there.

    --Galina


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    posted 12-30-2001 06:08 PM PT (US)     

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    I talked to Rocco recently, K. I conveyed our sorrow at his absence, and encouraged him to drop by the mm.com board. I'm glad he's still reading ... though posts like this we ALL could live without!

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    posted 12-30-2001 06:55 PM PT (US)     

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    His H'ness would be more than welcome back by me!

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    posted 12-30-2001 08:00 PM PT (US)     

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    Some way to extended best wishes for hopeful peace, Daniel. I will welcome your lawsuit and defend moviemusic.com to whatever extent you find most pleasurable. In the meantime, read up on the legal advice most have provided here.

    Going public with a lawsuit without delivering the lawsuit to the defendant first is somewhat backwards, no? But then again, I know nothing of the English system of law.

    Happy New Year, everyone, and don't let the agitators mess up any good celebrating you may have planned!

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    posted 12-30-2001 09:10 PM PT (US)     

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    All this because Daniel got banned from FSM and MM?

    God this is lame, it was his own fault for being himself.

    --Brian

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    posted 12-30-2001 11:13 PM PT (US)     

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    Well put, Peter and to all who have replied to this moronic posting. It shows how much of a passionate community we are here. That this board means something for those who care about it and it will be staunchly defended from the pollutants that run rampant on the internet.

    Now, can we put the child back in his playpen so he refrains from getting any more his spit-up of stupidity on anything else here?

    Is that harsh enough?...So sue me...Lawsuit. Give me a break. Next...

    Idiots do not deserve rights of any kind!!!!

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    posted 12-30-2001 11:15 PM PT (US)     

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    HROCCO2?

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    posted 12-31-2001 12:28 AM PT (US)     

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    That is the single most stupid thing I've read online in months, and stupid things are hard to avoid online these days. No rights have been violated, no laws have been broken, English or American, and no self-respecting lawyer would agree to prosecute such a case, never mind 40. If your imaginary friends are so kind and supportive of you, why not hang out with them and leave the people who do not want you around alone. Do you understand that last point, Mr. Cunningham? Even if you were readmitted, you would not be part of this board or this community. You are not wanted here. I cannot make it more clear than that.

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    posted 12-31-2001 01:34 AM PT (US)     

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    Thank you, one and all, for your valued responses...... Let me deal with each response individually -

    PeterK - "But then again, I know nothing of the English system of law."

    You should do, US law is based upon it............

    dgoldwas - ""Human rights infringmements"?? LOL"

    That was Hitler's attitude towards the Jews.

    scoreguy16 - "There's good reasons why you were kicked off here. And any idiot can figure out that you'd have to contact the head of the boards....."

    Who's to say we haven't?

    Wedge - "I'm really glad Rocco isn't around to see this defamatory tripe."

    I don't remember you publicly defending him when JJH, Brad Wills, Ron Pulliam and Mark Hatfield mounted their vicious campaign, just when Rocco needed your support most.

    Justin - "Another pathetic attempt by an individual with too much time on their hands. Some people shouldn't have access to the internet so they can actually LIVE."

    Displaying such a fervent desire to control the actions of others, perhaps you should become a message board moderator.......

    Zorba - "Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder is most effectively treated by an intensive psychological treatment program based on cognitive-behavioral principles, sometimes augmented by the use of medications."

    I've tried all that......I ended up stalking my shrink.

    MWRuger - "I am sure that Peter Kelly will be happy to confirm if he receives such a filing."

    Considering the fact that he treats the bulk of the message board membership as if they were still in diapers, I would be surprised if PeterK would deign to confirm the time of day.

    MWRuger - "Your New Year's resolution should be to find some other group of people to annoy."

    Why should I when I'm succeeding so comfortably here?

    Hornerfan - "And don't suggest Filmtracks to this *******! He doesn't need to pollute that board, either, with his smelly, masturbatory threads."

    I've frequently posted at Filmtracks.....unfortunately, I found it about as stimulating as conversing with some of the characters found in THE NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD.

    Vladimir - "We have a great forum here, and just because you where kicked off you are going to ruine it for all of us??? "

    PeterK is doing a fine job of that all on his lonesome.

    Jonathan Little - ".....you have obviously not been able to refrain yourself from abusing your "freedom" at this and other online message boards."

    On the contrary, I have merely been 'exercising' my freedoms......

    John Zimmer - "You'd think that being kicked off of here would be blessing escepesially to get away from all the weirdos that come here."

    Somebody needs to inject a little realism into the worlds of the 'weirdos' who populate this message board........I am quite happy to fulfil that duty.......

    Joan Hue - "It probably, however, would be legal for PeterK and Lukas to counter sue for unwarranted harassment!!!!!"

    Indeed it would.......I'll let them have Rocco's address.

    Kimiakane - "H Rocco (not H ROCCO2) did actually respond to a thread of mine recently!"

    I'm afraid he didn't. If you take another look at the thread in question, Rocco's entry was made well before he signed-off from message board discussion......after all, I should know......

    Timmer - "His H'ness would be more than welcome back by me!"

    I'll second that.

    Crono/kyp - "All this because Daniel got banned from FSM and MM? God this is lame, it was his own fault for being himself."

    And who would that be?

    Lightborne - "Is that harsh enough?...So sue me..."

    Why would I want to do that? I welcome your opinions as those of a free individual who is thankfully unable to moderate this message board.

    Lightborne - "Idiots do not deserve rights of any kind!!!!"

    Each and every individual human being deserves rights........even child molesters, mass murderers, Meat Loaf and Goldsmith fans.

    Probable - "You are not wanted here."

    I'm very comfortable with that.....after all, it's never stopped me from posting here before.

    Oh, and Peter, don't forget..........the clocks ticking.......

    [Message edited by H ROCCO2.1 on 12-31-2001]

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    posted 12-31-2001 01:51 AM PT (US)     

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    If you still are so ignorant of rights and laws that you think they are being violated, let me provide another violation for you: If you continue to aggravate this community, your right to be heard, which is exactly as substantial as your right to free speech on these boards, will be revoked, by me and no doubt by many others. I will have no more patience for your childish attention-seeking stunts. I will not read your posts, I will not reply to them, and I will not acknowledge your existence. If you think I will be alone in such an action, feel free to ask this community what they think, and consider the fruitlessness of writing words noone will read, and shouting on ears turned deaf by your immaturity, selfishness, and destructiveness. The ban Peter Kelly imposed on you was a mere reorganization of bytes. The ban this community will impose on you is more personal, and infinitely more effective.

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    posted 12-31-2001 02:09 AM PT (US)     

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    Well said, Probable - so why don't we all begin now and just forget about this thread?

    SFT

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    posted 12-31-2001 03:08 AM PT (US)     

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    Probable

    Thank you for your valued comments.

    As I have said many times in the past, I have no problem with being ostracised by the entire message board community.

    But that is still no reason for the board moderator to attempt to ban me from posting here.

    Ask yourself this. If my threads and postings are to remain unread and ignored by the entire membership, what possible reason can you give for preventing me from posting here and why have you taken the trouble to respond to this thread?

    Season's Greetings

    Daniel

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    posted 12-31-2001 03:30 AM PT (US)     

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    Man, go get a life dude.

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    posted 12-31-2001 08:57 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by H ROCCO2.1:
    dgoldwas - ""Human rights infringmements"?? LOL"

    That was Hitler's attitude towards the Jews.


    Yeah - once you start invoking "Hitler" in an argument, it's pretty much over. I'm sorry, but there's absolutely no comparison between Hitler and his policies and Peter Kelly and his bulletin board.

    Get a grip on reality, and move on.

    Dan



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    posted 12-31-2001 09:21 AM PT (US)     

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    Spicy Ramen - "Man, go get a life dude...."

    Ha, ha......that comment's about as original as a '90s Goldsmith score.

    As it happens though, I am a particularly sad git.....after all, I collect soundtracks.....but that's the difference between you and me......I'm happy to admit I'm a nerdish freak......

    Guy


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    posted 12-31-2001 09:39 AM PT (US)     

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    dgoldwas - "....there's absolutely no comparison between Hitler...and Peter Kelly...."

    You're quite right.....Hitler at least had some redeeming qualities.....

    Guy



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    posted 12-31-2001 09:41 AM PT (US)     

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    Odd...I lived in England for four years and came across of a multitiude of wonderful people...well-mannered, rich with tradition, humor, and common sense. You my friend have none of those traits...

    Let's try this...as to avoid the so-called despotism of Mr. Kelley, let's try something a little more democratic...the members of this board can simply vote. One way or another you're outta here. But then you will cry...but in the real world the people can't vote to ban someone. Well, you're getting oftly technical for someone who is mounting the most ludicrous "legal" action in history.

    You have no rights (in a legal sense) on this board. So-called harassment simply wouldn't hold up. There is no slander of character, except against an abstract handle.

    But you ask why can't you just post here and be ignored. If this were the real world, and we were all getting together on a Friday night to discuss film music the only way we could truly ignore you would be not to come. The same holds true here--your offensive words and nature will pop up in a multitude of threads and infect them like a cancer. You are much akin to Jack Nicholson in "As Good as it Gets" when he goes to the restaurant...your profane nature might keep certain members from returning here, and Peter can't have that.

    In the end, no one wants you here, and a normal human being would step back and oblige. If even a single, civil member of this board went elsewhere because of your antics that would truly be a travesty. Do all of us a favor and stay away.

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    posted 12-31-2001 09:48 AM PT (US)     

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    You need to seriously seek some help there Danny, Rocco, whoever you are. I wasn't around to see (or read) what originally happen, nor do I care. This is a MESSAGE BOARD, not a bar, not a restaurant, but a publically visited message board.
    If this were any of the other places listed above, I would completely understand your thoughts on your actions because they would be legit. Here, on a MESSAGE BOARD? Come on. I don't know what the legalities of that are like, but I wouldn't bother with it because of what the judge, jury, lawyers...etc... would think of you. They'd all be subconsciously shaking their head wishing for you to get a life. If this is your biggest problem......... then I am actually envious. I don't have the time, nor the DESIRE to get this upset over something as trivial and PETY as not being able to post on a mb. Oh boo-freakin-hoo.

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    posted 12-31-2001 09:51 AM PT (US)     

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    Out of curiosity, why have you stopped signing your posts as "Daniel", and are now using "Guy"?

    Having some identity issues?

    Dan

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    posted 12-31-2001 09:58 AM PT (US)     

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    Johnnyecks - "I don't have the time, nor the DESIRE to get this upset over something as trivial and PETY as not being able to post on a mb."

    Who's gettin' upset? Personally speaking, I'm thoroughly enjoying the opportunity to engage in discussion at this message board.

    And that is the key to the argument.....whether the message board moderator and membership likes it or not......I'm here to stay.

    The promised legal action is not just for myself, but for the long-term good of democracy, freedom, fraternity and equality.....considering this, time and money is of no consequence here.

    Happy New Year

    Guy

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    posted 12-31-2001 10:09 AM PT (US)     

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    Quill - "If this were the real world, and we were all getting together on a Friday night to discuss film music the only way we could truly ignore you would be not to come."

    Bullseye......I think you've unwittingly discovered the solution to your problem. If my presence at this message board so offends your delicate sensibilities....stay at home....

    That said, I would be very sorry to see you depart the board.

    Season's Greetings

    Guy

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    posted 12-31-2001 10:10 AM PT (US)     

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    dgoldwas - "Having some identity issues?"

    What makes you think that?

    Daniel Tucker


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    posted 12-31-2001 10:18 AM PT (US)     

     scoreguy16
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    Danny boy, I am pretty sure this is classified as harrassment now. And to answer your question from earlier, I am pretty sure PeterK would notify us if he recieved such an e-mail. Oh yeah! I forgot, it wouldn't be an e-mail. It'd be an actual letter. And what is the name of your law firm??? Retards-R-Us?

    Clayton

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    posted 12-31-2001 12:03 PM PT (US)     

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    Isn't this messge board about film scores...am I at the wrong place. Who changed my book marks? I am so confused.

    This was a good laugh. HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL!!!

    dave

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    posted 12-31-2001 01:01 PM PT (US)     

     John Zimmer
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    So bassically what your saying Rocco is that no matter what anyone does you're going to stay here?

    Aren't there forum rules against that?

    Jz

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    posted 12-31-2001 01:37 PM PT (US)     
     

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