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Keith Oscar® Nominee	Universal has just released its latest CD "More Fast and Furious", which contains the new copy protection scheme designed to foil those who would play their CDs on computer CDs and game consoles. Universal's aim is to make illegal distribution of music over the internet impossible. Universal also announced that all of their CDs will be copy protected sometime within the coming year.
posted 12-19-2001 03:26 PM PT (US)

MWRuger Oscar® Winner	Rubbish. Universal may think that they can stop copying, but they are smokin' the crack. I have yet to see a copy protection scheme that couldn't be broken. I have a friend who has already copied one of these uncopyable CD's. I didn't follow all the stuff he did, but if I want to copy this, I'll figure it out. Besides, what he did manually can be reproduced programmatically. People have been copying CD-Roms for years that were protected with the same kind of schemes. It will stop the casual copier, but the dedicated will laugh.
posted 12-19-2001 03:41 PM PT (US)

Lightborne Oscar® Winner	The Tankbusters are on their way...just as I said before. The tyranny of financial sodomy will be fought, Mr. Music Industry!!! Lower your prices and this wouldn't be such a concern for you!!! (At least not as much of one) Hell, I can get a DVD for cheaper than its music...and I get a whole movie with extras added. Let freedom ring!!!
posted 12-19-2001 04:15 PM PT (US)

Justin Oscar® Winner	Umm, maybe they missed my CD because my copy of the More Music From The Fast & The Furious is able to be copied just like any other CD. Strange...ah well, I don't plan to make any copies anyway. It's worth going out and purchasing the whole thing ;-)
posted 12-19-2001 05:57 PM PT (US)

BobaMike Oscar® Winner	you guys DO know the reason the labels are doing this right? The labels know of course that the cds will be ripped and mp3'd and traded. This way, they can say "look, we tried to protect them, but they still got pirated- we need tougher LAWS agaisnt copying." In a few years, copying will be ,much harder, if not illegal. This is just my opinion.. BobaMike
posted 12-19-2001 06:06 PM PT (US)

Soundtracker Oscar® Winner	Actually a CD-R copy should be much more expensive than an industrial CD. They press a large amount of CDs what makes it extremely cheap. Obviously the legal author royalties doesn't make the industrial CD expensive. Protection will never stop copying. The only way to do it is offering CDs for a reasonable price.
posted 12-19-2001 06:51 PM PT (US)

André Lux Oscar® Winner	The real question here is: WHO WANTS "MORE MUSIC FROM 'THE FAST AND THE FURIOUS"???
posted 12-19-2001 06:55 PM PT (US)

Justin Oscar® Winner	True Andre. What we should really be wanting is the score to The Fast & The Furious!
posted 12-19-2001 07:45 PM PT (US)

Soundtracker Oscar® Winner	hihihihihihih
posted 12-19-2001 07:51 PM PT (US)

TimT Oscar® Winner	If I have 2 CDROM drives could I still copy it? And what if I recorded through my sound card?
posted 12-19-2001 09:19 PM PT (US)

Keith Oscar® Nominee	quote: Originally posted by BobaMike: you guys DO know the reason the labels are doing this right? The labels know of course that the cds will be ripped and mp3'd and traded. This way, they can say "look, we tried to protect them, but they still got pirated- we need tougher LAWS agaisnt copying." In a few years, copying will be ,much harder, if not illegal. This is just my opinion.. BobaMike There is a "Fair Use" law that came into being back when VCRs first appeared on the market and it allows people to make backups for personal use. Now I'm not going to say that these personal use recordings don't get abused and spread around, but the law pretty much prevents the introduction of technology that interferes with the owner's right of fair use.
posted 12-20-2001 03:16 AM PT (US)

John Zimmer Oscar® Winner	Acctually if the record companies stop the use of cd-r then other companies will loose a great source of money. There is a big market for cd-r's. Jz
posted 12-20-2001 07:05 AM PT (US)

jonathan_little Oscar® Winner	TechTV had a small interview with Garth Brooks (who I don't like at all) regarding this issue, and he admitted to making cassette copies of albums when he didn't have the money to buy it. Then in the next line he goes on to say that everybody trading MP3s and etc is just out there to rip him off. I don't trade MP3s or use any swapping software, but I do have a massive MP3 collection, since I don't want to have my whole CD collection at school. I refuse to have hundreds of dollars worth of CDs taking up the space in my small dorm room at school. NP: El Cid (By my own MP3s ripped from the CD that I own. I can assure you that nobody at my house is listening to my original CD while I listen to my backup copy. )
posted 12-20-2001 09:01 AM PT (US)

TimT Oscar® Winner	Yes but, could these CDs still be copies from CDROM to CDROM? And Is it possible to record the music through the sound card? Could the CD be played in a CDROM at all?
posted 12-20-2001 09:21 AM PT (US)

Justin Oscar® Winner	My CD plays in my CD-ROM perfectly and is able to be copied with no problem. This could be just mine though. Who knows
posted 12-20-2001 12:26 PM PT (US)

jonathan_little Oscar® Winner	If you can play it, then yes you can record it. This means that if your CD player in your stereo plays it, you can hook up a pair of RCA cables from your stereo into your soundcard's line in and record wave files like that. It takes more effort, but can be done. Of course making a copy this way is a digital->analog->digital copy, and there is a possibility that quality loss will occur. The possibility to "rip" waves directly from the CDs all depends on how your operating system and hardware deal with these corrupted CDs. Some may see the CD audio tracks, others might see some CD-ROM data, and the rest might not see anything at all on the disc. [Message edited by jonathan_little on 12-20-2001]
posted 12-20-2001 02:00 PM PT (US)

MWRuger Oscar® Winner	It will probably also depend on whether you are doing a complete disc copy or just trying to rip the tracks. Many programs have ways of dealing with corrupted TOC's so a straight disc copy should not be a huge problem. Ripping will be a little tougher. I suspect that the tracks will have to pulled as straight wav files and then repaired before compression can take place.
posted 12-20-2001 03:11 PM PT (US)

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