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Topic:   John Williams' Oscar Nomination(s) for 2001

 CBmogul
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Since John Williams is nominated for SOMETHING every year, what will it be this year at the Academy Awards®?

Five questions, really:

1.) What film score will give Williams his 40th Oscar nomination?

A.I. Artificial Intelligence
- or -
Harry Potter and the Sorcere's Stone


2.) Will "For Always", the love ballad from A.I., be nominated for Best Original Song? (Making it his 41st nomination...)


3.) Will/Should Williams be nominated for both scores?


4.) In your opinion, what was Williams' best score this year?


5.) What was your favorite film score of the year? (Doesn't have to be Williams.)


AND, lastly, if you, were the Academy®, nominate your five contenders for "Best Original Score".
Look forward to reading what ya'll think...

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posted 10-30-2001 06:11 PM PT (US)    ip  

 Lancelot
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Far be it for me (of all people) to rain on anyone's premature parade, but....seriously...isn't this a little too...ehh...6th grade?

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posted 10-30-2001 06:15 PM PT (US)    ip  

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1. Monkeybone- Anne Dudley (Yeah, big chance this will happen )
2. Planet of the Apes- Danny Elfman
3. Harry Potter- John Williams
4. Shrek- Powell and Gregson-Williams
Not sure for the 5th, maybe Lord of the Rings?

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posted 10-30-2001 06:34 PM PT (US)    ip  

 CBmogul
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Dylan: Who's scoring Rings?
Haven't heard Elfman's PLANET yet. I guess it's good, huh? I heard it's a lot of brass chaos...I'll make sure to check it out soon. Haven't heard/seen MONKEYBONE, love HARRY POTTER, and have only heard "True Love's First Kiss" from SHREK, which is awesome. Is there a score-only CD out?


Lancelot: not 6th grade, just curious to see what people think so far. Granted, the year's not over, but whatever. If you don't want to answer the question, then don't waste your time. Thanks anyways.

[Message edited by CBmogul on 10-30-2001]

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posted 10-30-2001 06:53 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Who is scoring Rings? Howard Shore.

And from what I hear it rocks!

--Brian

NP: Merlin

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posted 10-30-2001 07:23 PM PT (US)    ip  

 jonathan_little
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How about Prince Valiant by Franz Waxman?

*runs away*

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posted 10-30-2001 07:55 PM PT (US)    ip  

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It wouldn't be surprising at all if John Williams was nominated for both scores. So far I'd say Potter deserves it. Not sure about A.I. I think Johnny has a good chance at the Best Song nod as well.

My favorite this year is easily Goldenthal's Final Fantasy.

As for the top five, ask me again in February.

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posted 10-30-2001 09:43 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Yeah, it's hard to call a top five before the Xmas release rush.

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posted 10-31-2001 06:09 AM PT (US)    ip  

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My top 3, pre-LOTR and Harry Potter:

From Hell
Final Fantasy
The Score

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posted 10-31-2001 11:50 AM PT (US)    ip  

 Quill
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Recently picked up From Hell...enjoying it immensely. My picks would be...

Final Fantasy (I doubt it will even by nominated--but the best so far IMHO)
From Hell
LOTR (don't need to hear it...just know)
Planet of the Apes

Not sure about the last one...maybe Potter...nothing else really knocked my socks off.

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posted 10-31-2001 12:55 PM PT (US)    ip  

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If John Williams is nominated for both Harry Potter and AI, he will most likely win the award. I don't think that he will get a double nomination. I'm betting on AI. Who is the foreign who has had a big score and for a big movie this year? They will win. An American composer hasn't won in a while so I won't bet on any American.

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posted 10-31-2001 02:34 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Hello everyone! I had to register on this board after reading it for a couple of months.

Now that the FSM Board is going through some pretty crazy technical times I've decided to rant and rave over here (at least for the time being).

I had to start by correcting a couple of posts on this thread:

The song "For Always" is NOT eligible for an Oscar because it was not performed in the film.

And also, Aaron, you forget that John Corigliano is an American who has won recently: for The Red Violin two years ago. But on the whole, you are right: only six Americans have won Oscars out of 11 tries in the score categories. What does that say about the state of American composers? (that's just a rhetorical question).

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posted 10-31-2001 02:57 PM PT (US)    ip  

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In 1990 I would have wanted the Academy to give the both Oscars to John Williams for HOME ALONE - he really did deserve them for both the original song (with Leslie Bricusse) and the score.

In 1991 I was SO furious for the Academy over-looking Williams' HOOK score, only nominating the song - and the JFK score which had no changes of winning over Alan Menken's BEAUTY AND THE BEAST.

That was me over ten years ago. Since you people know my opinion on HARRY POTTER, I would be amazed if the Academy nominated it... But I do think A.I. would have a change. Let's wait and see.

KEN

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posted 10-31-2001 03:26 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Question: On the US release of the HARRY POTTER score, it says "Special First Edition" on a shiny gold sticker. What exactly does that mean? Could it be that they're planning a TPM-like re-release? An "ultimate version" of the score???

KEN - about the HOOK vs. JFK thing in '91/'92, JFK was Oscar® material and somewhat of a success. HOOK, on the other hand, was very much the opposite. Plus - in '91, Spielberg wasn't as respected as Oliver Stone. It was pre-SCHINDLER'S LIST and SAVING PRIVATE RYAN. Now, it's very much the opposite. (Poor Ollie. Maybe he'll get some respect again when he takes on a Ronald Reagan project -- who knows? AND, most likely, Williams might do it -- but that's just wishful thinking on my part, as usual.)

Anyways...back to what I was saying... Unfortunately, there's a lot of politics when it comes to Oscar-related stuff. So - we'll just have to wait and see what happens this year.

In 1990, I dunno....DANCES WITH WOLVES was, indeed, beautiful. (in my opinion, of course.) The first time I actually quasi-enjoyed Kevin Costner....and it's the first time I paid attention to John Barry.

AND......about "Look Down Lord", I, too, haven't heard anything to the contrary of it being a Williams work. After all, it was included in his "1969-1999 Greatest Hits" album.....there's nothing on there that wasn't original Williams. I'm not 100% sure on that, but I'd venture to say that 95% of me is leaning towards the possibility that "Lord" is indeed a JW piece. (I hope it is, 'cause it's awesome!)

We should look into it, though. Thanks again.

NP: "Leaving Hogwarts", but now after thinking about it, I think I'm gonna listen to "Star of Bethlehem" from HOME ALONE.

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posted 10-31-2001 08:19 PM PT (US)    ip  

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I don't think that the Oscars usual selection of a non-film composer or a foreign composer say very much about American film composers. It just show that the Academy doesn't know as much about film scores as film fans do. I think they tend toward strange scores for dramatic films that are nominated for other awards like Best Picture.

[Message edited by Aaron R. Brown on 11-01-2001]

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posted 11-01-2001 12:29 PM PT (US)    ip  

 Hector J. Guzman
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quote:
Originally posted by CBmogul:

2.) Will "For Always", the love ballad from A.I., be nominated for Best Original Song? (Making it his 41st nomination...)




Or 42nd!
Hehehe!!!

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posted 11-01-2001 01:02 PM PT (US)    ip  

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As I am feeling totally "sixth grade" at the moment I thought I would put my 2 cents in.if Miramax has it's way "Amelie" will be nominated for lots of awards.

All early indicators lead it to be quite an excellent film and I have heard good things about the score by Yann Tiersen. (Someone described it as Michael Nyman meets French accordion music. My guess is that it is much better sounding than that might make you think. The music in the trailers is quite nice.)

My personal favorites that I have heard so far this year would be:

"Atlantis" by James Newton Howard
"A.I." by John Williams
"Final Fantasy" by Elliot Goldenthal

I have "Harry Potter..." but I haven't spent enough time with it to formulate an opinion. This is the blessing/curse of long CDs. I DO like it...but perhaps it just hasn't moved me like "A.I." did.

James

P.S. Due to Academy rules I doubt you'll be seeing "Shrek" up for score. Only ONE composer is eligible for the nomination. That is why we didn't see Lisa Gerrard up for "Gladiator" with Hans Zimmer. (I guess those 12 composers who "wrote" The Color Purple and were nominated back in 1985 killed those multiple nominees for the future.)

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posted 11-01-2001 01:44 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Lets see...

- Hanzimmer won an Oscar, Morricone never;
- Mel Gibson won one for Best Director;
- Gladiator won various, including best picture;
- Etc...

Well, who cares about Oscars??

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posted 11-01-2001 02:20 PM PT (US)    ip  

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I don't care about the Oscars anymore,because I'm full with the Academy's "politics" of leaving the most likely winners without even nominating them... and secondly because my favorites don't usually win... and "thirdly" because the show has been lacking all the magic and "class" it used to have.

CBmogul, if "Look Down, Lord" is a Williams-original, then WHO did the LYRICS - certainly not Williams himself ?!?! For that reason I have always believed it and the another song on the soundtrack being TRADITIONALS, not Williams-originals. (I haven't seen the movie.)

KEN

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posted 11-01-2001 03:53 PM PT (US)    ip  

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My picks for best of this year (so far -- eagerly awaiting LOTR, too):

"A.I." by John Williams
"The Mummy Returns" by Alan Silvestri
"Atlantis" by James Newton Howard
"Final Fantasy" by Elliot Goldenthal
"Harry Potter" by John Williams

Although one could guess as to what song will win, as well, I'll just state that I REALLY want "Come What May" from Moulin Rouge to win it.

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posted 11-01-2001 09:40 PM PT (US)    ip  

 CBmogul
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Dalboz, I like your list the best, so far. I doubt that ATLANTIS will get nominated, although I really liked the score. Because FINAL FANTASY was such a flop, I doubt the Academy will recognize it either. I do believe, however, that there might be a double nomination for Williams (and that, too, is wishful thinking). I ABSOLUTELY LOVED Silvestri's THE MUMMY RETURNS score! I think it's his best since FORREST GUMP. I would love to see him get his 2nd nod. BUT --- I'm sure there are going to be scores in there for movies that haven't even come out.

I've been hearing good things about AMELIE and THE SHIPPING NEWS scores. (Is that another Rachel Portman score...seeing that Lasse Holstrom is directing.) It was so much easier when the score categories were divided into Comedic and Dramatic.

We'll have to wait and see, I guess. Isn't there anything by Hans Zimmer (other than HANNIBAL and PEARL HARBOR) this year that's worth mentioning? Does he have anything coming out in the next 2 months?

OK -- this is long enough.

NP: RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK

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posted 11-02-2001 08:21 AM PT (US)    ip  

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The Shipping News is being scored by Christopher Young. I am sure it will be quite a good score.

It's nice to see Chris is doing more high profile films that are out of the horror genre he so often gets typecast in.

James

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posted 11-02-2001 10:21 AM PT (US)    ip  

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How could I forget that wonderful song Elliot Goldenthal did with Lara Fabian for "Final Fantasy"???

That should be nominated and win. But I am sure it won't.

I imagine Randy Newman will get another song nomination for "Monsters Inc." and still NOT win.

(He should have won for Toy Story 2!)

James

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posted 11-02-2001 02:41 PM PT (US)    ip  

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John Williams is nominated almost every year. He has become the academy's pet.

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posted 11-02-2001 02:48 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Yeah, we should all be so lucky.

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posted 11-02-2001 02:55 PM PT (US)    ip  

 
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