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azahid Oscar® Winner	Folks, In a recent BBC interview Composer and legend John Barry has expressed interest in doing the next James Bond Film which will star PIERCE BROSNAN in his last role as 007. Barry has said that he thought he might bring a freshness to it having been away for a while. Although, David Arnold is officialy signed on board to the score, I dont know if Arnold will step down to let the real man do the job. It is still a far cry, there's always the issue of doing the Bond song, and the money..who knows? I hope he gets to do it! Amer
posted 10-28-2001 03:50 AM PT (US)

Aaron R. Brown Oscar® Winner	I would be interested in hearing Bond with Barry again. I liked his last score The Living Daylights a lot. I still wonder like you if Arnold would give up his spot. Bond is probably is Arnold's biigest claim to fame. Anyway we will see how this goes!
posted 10-28-2001 05:23 AM PT (US)

SFT Oscar® Winner	While I don´t care much for the Bond franchise any longer, it would be interesting to see how Barry would score the new film. Personally, I think Arnold's two Bond scores are horrible. So, please - bring back Barry. But let´s just hope the new film is an improvement over the last couple of films. The way things are going for Bond right now, I wonder if they shouldn´t just pull the plug on the whole thing. SFT NP: Othello, Elliot Goldenthal **/*** [Message edited by SFT on 10-28-2001]
posted 10-28-2001 06:29 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	I personally have really enjoyed Brosnan's Bond films and their respective scores (including Serra's). This is coming from a guy who has all the scores for the rest of the films (big Barry fan... big Bond fan). Then again, I'm a huge Arnold fan... and I think he should stay attached to the project. What I wouldn't mind, is if Arnold and Barry collaborated. The two composers are fond of each other and share a mentor/student-like relationship. Knowing Barry's music as well as I think I do, I'm not sure how much 'fresher' he could make the state of Bond music at the moment. Arnold does a pretty good job w/ that. I do like Barry's dramatic sensibilites, though. If the two were to work together, David could stay on top of things w/ Barry... and the results would most likely be intriguing. Regardless, this is all talk and speculation. Barry has expressed an interest, that's all. I have a feeling we'll still be getting a David Arnold score. Jeron
posted 10-28-2001 09:51 AM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	quote: Originally posted by azahid: Barry has said that he thought he might bring a freshness to it having been away for a while. If freshness means to do something like what he did with his Zulu (1964) theme for Cry the Beloved Country (1995), no thanks! Won't work for Bond, unless the new film is a complete slo-mo fest....
posted 10-28-2001 11:21 AM PT (US)

shrubber Oscar® Winner	If this is true it's the best news I've heard in years. Scorewise the Bond movie have been an absolute mess since Living Daylights (the least said about Eric Serra's effort the better) and Barry has created this distinctive sound for the series that is part of the charm of Bond. As for Arnold, I know he has tremendous respect for Barry and would probably relish the opportunity to work together with him. How about a Barry score with Arnold brought in to add a bit of modern spice? Now there's something I'd like to hear!
posted 10-28-2001 11:27 AM PT (US)

Swashbuckler Oscar® Winner	It's really quite simple. There is one composer for a Bond film. Everybody else is just an understudy. If John Barry wants to do it, there is no question. As for the title song... well... BRING BACK SHIRLEY!!! BRING BACK SHIRLEY!!! (I think that all the people who welcomed me back are probably groaning right now)
posted 10-28-2001 11:45 AM PT (US)

jonathan_little Oscar® Winner	groan NP: The Patriot
posted 10-28-2001 11:55 AM PT (US)

Dan Brecher Oscar® Winner	It would make a lovely touch, being Bond 20 and all... Dan (UK) NP: Harry Potter & The Philosopher's Stone (**/**)
posted 10-28-2001 12:05 PM PT (US)

Timmer Oscar® Winner	I think this very unlikely! A Barry/Arnold collaberation?....interesting (that's putting it mildly) but very unlikely! I guess we'll have to wait and see. Shrubber, good to see you here, where ya been? NP : Jesus Of Nazerath - Jarre
posted 10-28-2001 05:41 PM PT (US)

Timmer Oscar® Winner	Amer, where did you get that information?
posted 10-28-2001 05:43 PM PT (US)

Bulldog Oscar® Winner	I'd be fine with Barry doing Bond, so long as he scored it as he scored Goldfinger or The Man with the Golden Gun, instead of the eclectic, inconsistent A View to a Kill or The Living Daylights. Maybe David Arnold--perhaps the most astounding new talent on the horizon--could remind his mentor how it's done! He's brought a rational, coherent approach to his Bond scores that Barry did not have.
posted 10-28-2001 08:10 PM PT (US)

Lou Goldberg Oscar® Winner	Barry is a master. Arnold only so-so. People have been complaining that the new Bond films haven't had Barry scores ever since Brosnan showed up. Even if some people don't like Barry's snoozy style [and I have to agree that CTBC was a disappointment for reusing Zulu], he's done some great scores lately and so many other scores by him sound like Bond scores anyway that he might as well put that sound where it belongs. Maybe Barry hasn't been too fond of what he's heard in the latest films and feels the need to establish his presence in them again. If I were a Bond producer, I'd jump at the chance to get Barry back.
posted 10-28-2001 08:27 PM PT (US)

Darth Fart Oscar® Winner	Barry refused Goldeneye? I would love to have Barry back, but I doubt the producers want him, Arnold is probably expected to do it, unless he doesn't want to?
posted 10-29-2001 12:42 AM PT (US)

Lou Goldberg Oscar® Winner	I don't know the whole history of the latest Bonds. There was a gap in making them after the Dalton films. The producers, one being Cubby Broccoli's daughter I believe, even tried to sell their film rights to the novels before venturing onto a new Bond film. They may have offered Barry the job, I don't know. They wanted to update it by having a woman boss and the like and hiring Eric Serra to provide a new Bond sound may have been part of the concept. He dropped the ball and it wound up in Arnold's court. Not bad but not Barry. Barry might not be able to get an in with the current Bond makers, especially if he turned them down earlier, but the interview suggests he would like to. It would be interesting to know his reasoning. But as I said, if Barry wants to do it, they'd be fools not to ask him. Arnold has done some good scores--Stargate, ID4, Godzilla, etc.--but IMHO his Bond scores are routine, they aren't particularly distinguished.
posted 10-29-2001 03:21 AM PT (US)

Bulldog Oscar® Winner	These all sound like musical opinions as opposed to dramatic/communicative ones....
posted 10-29-2001 08:17 AM PT (US)

Aaron R. Brown Oscar® Winner	I like Arnold's approach toward the last two films. I didn't like Serra's Goldeneye. Who did? Anyway I won't have a problem if Barry did the score. I'm not sure how he would score such a high octane action sequences like "The Bunker" in The World is Not Enough.
posted 10-29-2001 11:48 AM PT (US)

Spicy Ramen Oscar® Winner	Personally, I think they should let rising stars like Don Davis or John Debney do it.
posted 10-29-2001 12:11 PM PT (US)

Quill Oscar® Winner	I have been a long time Bond fan...and I have actually enjoyed the evolution of the series from a film and music perspective (aside from the Serra mess) I for one enjoy the new films--they have managed to maintain the feel of Bond while bringing more to the show as well. I loved Arnold's score for The World is Not Enough...the theme and song were quite a throwback and perfect for the film. I would welcome Barry back--but only as a collaborator and not a replacement.
posted 10-29-2001 12:52 PM PT (US)

James Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Spicy Ramen: Personally, I think they should let rising stars like [b]Don Davis...do it. [/B] Don't make me drool...
posted 10-29-2001 08:15 PM PT (US)

Timmer Oscar® Winner	Don't make me puke!
posted 10-30-2001 04:29 AM PT (US)

Swashbuckler Oscar® Winner	quote: I'm not sure how he (Barry) would score such a high octane action sequences like "The Bunker" in The World is Not Enough. John Barry has scored plenty of high octane moments for the Bond films... perhaps the crowning achievement would be On Her Majesty's Secret Service. "Battle On the Piz Gloria" is more intense than anything Arnold had written for the series. Not to mention the fact that the ski chase and cat-and-mouse pursuit in the hamlet are among the most tense moments in any Bond film (for once Bond looks like he pooped his drawers). Barry also knows when to use silence, something that I think the Arnold-scored Bonds (as laudable as they are after Eric Serra's mess of Goldeneye... and I like Serra!) don't really have as much of a grasp on. For some reason, I find that even Barry's lesser Bond scores have something about them that feels right that doesn't exist when another composer scores for the franchise, no matter how good the score may be. He seemed to have an instinctual approach to the character that few other composers have had. And, of course, for the title sequence they need to bring back a legendary figure from the series. BRING BACK SHIRLEY!!! BRING BACK SHIRLEY!!!
posted 10-30-2001 09:48 PM PT (US)

Darth Fart Oscar® Winner	Man with the Golden gun rocks, even though it's not his best, it's still a very enjoyable score. I wish Barry did Spy Who Loved Me
posted 11-01-2001 11:32 AM PT (US)

Aaron R. Brown Oscar® Winner	The Man with The Golden Gun was most likly the worest Bond film ever but it had a better score than many of the others. Darth Fart, I agree with you wishing that Barry did The Spy Who loved Me. It was one of the two best films that starred Moore. Barry would have made it one of the the best of the series. I didn't like disco score For Your Eyes Only. I think Barry could have done better for it to.
posted 11-01-2001 12:40 PM PT (US)

Bond1965 Oscar® Winner	I think this is all VERY pre-mature. Barry "may" have suggested he might want to do another, but until he sees the film and/or is offered the job I'd say not to hold your breath. He seems to be very selective about his projects and said he pretty much has done all he wanted to do with the Bond series. The films aren't what they once were in his eyes. While John Barry is my favorite film composer, I really think I'd rather see the producers stick with David Arnold on this one. He obviously loves doing the films and has a fresh take on updating the original Barry Bond sound. Arnold also has great luck collaborating with other artists to do songs. His work with Bjork, k.d. lang, The Propellorheads, Garbage, as well as the other artists he utilized on the "Shaken and Stirred" project show his diversity and talent there. I'd love to hear Arnold and Shirley Bassey have a go at a Bond song. Or even have him work with Tom Jones. Also, Shara Nelson's work with Arnold on the "Moonraker" cover would lead me to think a song with her and Massive Attack could be really exciting. As for the other non-Barry Bond scores, I don't know who suggested Hamlisch for "Spy Who Loved Me" (it might have been those 3 Ocars in 1974 that got him the gig), but I have heard that Barry recommended both Conti and Serra for their Bond outings. Any complaints about those scores are partially his fault. James
posted 11-01-2001 02:24 PM PT (US)

Darth Fart Oscar® Winner	FSM suggests that Barry might have produced some demos for the Bond producers. I'm hoping that the producers let Barry have a go. I'm actually a fan of the disco score for 'For Your Eyes Only' it's a lot of fun, but obviously I would've liked Barry on this one. EMI are really dragging their feet on the Bond re-masters. I'm itching for the complete Moonraker score!!! Spy Who Loved Me had 2 decent themes, Bond 77 and the main title theme.
posted 11-02-2001 12:41 AM PT (US)

Timmer Oscar® Winner	Darth, Is MOONRAKER really missing that much music? OHMSS and DAF are grossly under-represented and both have up to half an hour or more of good music that has never seen the light of day, but Moonraker which I admit I have not seen for a very long time didn't seem to have much missing except for a nice piece of music during the Intro when the Shuttle is stolen from atop the 747?! Enlighten me pal?!
posted 11-02-2001 04:08 AM PT (US)

Darth Fart Oscar® Winner	Timmer, the following is missing: Gunbarrel Pre-Credits - Shuttle hijack and freefall. Bond and Corrine flyover Drax estate Bond enters centrifuge Bond in Venice exploits Venice boat chase End titles I say 15 minutes is missing, Barry had a nice rendition of the Bond theme in this one, and not represented on the album!!! I don't have DAF in my collection. OHMSS is a must, too.
posted 11-02-2001 05:32 AM PT (US)

Timmer Oscar® Winner	Yep, that sounds familier Darth, I'll wait till it's on TV again and check it out. As for DAF it's unbelievable that some of the very best bits are not on the album like Bond's fight with Peter Frank in the elevator...really great fight music and some great choral writing for the cremation sequence, yet the album is one of THE most poorly presented Bond soundtracks.
posted 11-02-2001 07:40 AM PT (US)

John Zimmer Oscar® Winner	Eric Serra should do it. Don't you remember his rich orchestration in his score to Goldeneye? Np: Starship Troopers (Basil Poledouris) **/*** Jz
posted 11-02-2001 08:44 AM PT (US)

Darth Fart Oscar® Winner	Timmer, you'll like this website: www.geocities.com/bondsmellsrat
posted 11-05-2001 12:12 AM PT (US)

Timmer Oscar® Winner	Darth, I was already aware of that sight. But thanks anyway Cool place for sound clips!
posted 11-05-2001 04:32 AM PT (US)

Peter Greenhill Oscar® Nominee	Peter K wrote:If freshness means to do something like what he did with his Zulu (1964) theme for Cry the Beloved Country (1995), no thanks! Won't work for Bond, unless the new film is a complete slo-mo fest....[/B][/QUOTE] The theme from Zulu that Barry used again in CTBC is in fact based on an original piece of African music. It was totally appropriate to use the same theme with a different arrangement for another film set in South Africa.
posted 11-05-2001 05:50 AM PT (US)

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