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azahid Oscar® Winner	Folks, Good news... Varese srabande has announced plans for the orginal film soundtrack to DAMIAN OMEN2 ELUXE ED. WITH 30 MINUTES OF EXTRA MUSIC. LINK HALLELUJA!!! Amer Zahid [Message edited by PeterK on 10-13-2001]
posted 10-13-2001 06:41 AM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	Heh, Varese are either making a LOT of money these days...or they finally lost their marbles!
posted 10-13-2001 07:06 AM PT (US)

wistiti Oscar® Winner	Or both.
posted 10-13-2001 07:07 AM PT (US)

wistiti Oscar® Winner	Althought he even better news is that Varese will be releasing Rabin's The One.
posted 10-13-2001 07:09 AM PT (US)

Al Oscar® Winner	It will be mine. Oh yes. It will be mine.
posted 10-13-2001 08:24 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Al: It will be mine. Oh yes. It will be mine. And mine. And mine. And mine.
posted 10-13-2001 11:03 AM PT (US)

OHMSS76 Oscar® Winner	Im surprised that everyone hasn't gone into hysterics, since Varese is also releasing SHREK(Powell,Gregson-Williams). I don't know how this one is, but the sound of a 110 piece orch. and chorus sounds good... NP:Band o' Bros(Kamen) Sean
posted 10-13-2001 12:42 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by OHMSS76: Im surprised that everyone hasn't gone into hysterics, since Varese is also releasing SHREK(Powell,Gregson-Williams). I don't know how this one is, but the sound of a 110 piece orch. and chorus sounds good... First off, to be more accurate Sean, Shrek was composed by Harry Gregson-Williams and John Powell, not Powell and HGW. Harry is responsible for all the themes and major moments in the film, save the techno dragon cue and the songs. The "Ride the Dragon / Finale" cue appears on both HGW's and Powell's promos, so I assume they both collaborated on that single cue. The promos (combined) total out to roughly 40 minutes of music. This doesn't include the "Welcome to Duloc" song... so who knows what's gonna be on the Varese disc. Secondly (and more on topic), Jerry's score for Damien is awesome. I think Al would agree when I say that Damien is probably the most fun out of 'em all. Comparitively speaking, it's more bouncy, containing some memorable (and cool) synth work - and the choral moments (there are plenty!) are unforgettable. Great stuff. I'm happy that we'll finally have all 3 of his scores in expanded, remastered format on cd, though Damien has (and will most likely continue to be) my disc of choice when wanting a creepy but fun Goldsmith score to listen to.
posted 10-13-2001 01:35 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	"Shrek was composed by Harry Gregson-Williams and John Powell, not Powell and HGW." Good observation.
posted 10-13-2001 02:19 PM PT (US)

Scott Oscar® Winner	Nice, nice, nice. Scott
posted 10-13-2001 03:09 PM PT (US)

OHMSS76 Oscar® Winner	Well, same diff Jeron! Sorry for that, but I haven't seen, nor heard, a note of Shrek....but the prospect of a 'techno dragon' cue doesn't sound too good to me I'll give the score the benefit of the doubt though, and check it out! Hope it is something good after all! Very surprised about Damien, guess that Silva didn't have the rights to the OST, just the London re-recording. Can The Fury be very far behind! Are you reading this Maestro Townson!??! You must be, since Varese is doing all these titles people gripe about constantly
posted 10-13-2001 05:21 PM PT (US)

jonathan_little Oscar® Winner	Varese, FSM, and Intrada are going to bankrupt me! Nice to see we're going to get the original tracks.
posted 10-13-2001 06:28 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by OHMSS76: but the prospect of a 'techno dragon' cue doesn't sound too good to me ...think TND's "Backseat Driver" fused with a fantastically heroic, charming theme. It's a lot of fun - and entirely appropriate, given the parodic nature of the film. Other than that, the rest of the score is entirely orchestral, with some great choral moments and most of all, memorable themes. I know I'll be flogged for this, but I dare say I enjoy this one more than Chicken Run.
posted 10-13-2001 08:11 PM PT (US)

Wedge Oscar® Winner	I enjoyed Antz more than Chicken Run. I might get Shrek. Next time I view the film I'll pay more attention to the music. Ditto for Chicken Run. BTW, there's a GREAT Shrek reference in the 10th installment of "The Critic" at www.shockwave.com ... HILARIOUS!
posted 10-13-2001 08:15 PM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Oscar® Winner	Good call, PK. Hah! Shaun
posted 10-13-2001 10:33 PM PT (US)

Lou Goldberg Oscar® Winner	I don't mind going bankrupt for stuff like this.....
posted 10-13-2001 10:33 PM PT (US)

OHMSS76 Oscar® Winner	Good comparison Jeron Grazia! I'll give this a look-see then
posted 10-14-2001 12:05 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Shaun Rutherford: Good call, PK. Hey, hey, what is this? Make fun of Jeron day? All I meant by my re-ordering of credits, was to place emphasis on the fact that Harry did most of the foot work.
posted 10-14-2001 12:10 AM PT (US)

OHMSS76 Oscar® Winner	Yah, how dare ya Jeron!lol For what it's worth, I got where you were coming from Now.......dogpile! Ahhhhhh! S~
posted 10-14-2001 01:48 AM PT (US)

wistiti Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by jonathan_little: Varese, FSM, and Intrada are going to bankrupt me! Same here. Which is why from now on, I will only follow the progress of film music without ever buying anything except a soundtrack or two, here and there, once in a while, maybe, perhaps, if I feel like it. I'm switching to that boy/girl band pop. It's cheaper.
posted 10-14-2001 07:18 AM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Oscar® Winner	My bucks will be going that way too, unfortunately. We are all gonna be broke. John.
posted 10-14-2001 07:23 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	Well, then you guys are in luck! I think the new Britney Spears album comes out on November 6th.
posted 10-14-2001 12:17 PM PT (US)

jonathan_little Oscar® Winner	Britney? I'd rather buy a James Horner album.
posted 10-14-2001 12:54 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by jonathan_little: Britney? I'd rather buy a James Horner album. Ah yes, your reasoning is sound, but that wouldn't be considered pop now would it?
posted 10-14-2001 01:17 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Jeron: Damien has (and will most likely continue to be) my disc of choice when wanting a creepy but fun Goldsmith score to listen to. Hmm, Final Conflict is my favourite, though the rest is great as well. I'd classify them like this: The Omen - Darkest Damien: Omen II - Creepiest The Final Conflict - Grandest I've never heard or seen Antz, absolutely love Chicken Run (film & score), and found Shrek very enjoyable as a film (except for those horrible, gratuitous songs), but the score a bit too Media Ventury. Could be that the reason is that Powell is first in the CR: 1 credits. I'll try to re-listen to it though, perhaps it's better than I remember. NP: Chicken Run (John Powell, Harry Gregson-Williams)
posted 10-14-2001 01:40 PM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Oscar® Winner	I am sorry, Jeron, I won't bite on that one. Jonathan, I am with you. I would rather listen to HOrner too. JW.
posted 10-14-2001 09:12 PM PT (US)

Pete M Oscar® Winner	Yippee!!!! Hooray for Varese!!! Expanded Damien & Shrek!!!! Goddamn, I need more money!
posted 10-15-2001 09:54 AM PT (US)

azahid Oscar® Winner	I had been more than curious about the various claims made by people that the OST from Silva was actualy a re-recording. The most damn annoying aspect of that album was that it was mastered at a low volume and sounded very hissy. But still, its great develoment of the original score although Goldsmith develed on the ame choral motives and arrangemnts. But i found it more cold and eerie than the origianl which itself is very powerfull. THE FINAL CONFLICT is magnificet and stands apart totaly on its own. So, Im quite curious as to why was the album re-recorded. Did Goldsmith had more time and budget to spare or were their production problems in the scoring sessions. Anyway, I dont remember from the film that there would be 30 minutes of extra music in it unless theymixed the Silva re-recording peices into it as well. I only got OMEN2 early this year so its kinda getting redundant for now By the way the lyrics in OEMNIII are different from The First Omen. I can only identify "Ave satani" and "Verus Christus" in some places but the rest..? Anyone have any idea? Amer
posted 10-15-2001 10:50 PM PT (US)

jonathan_little Oscar® Winner	azahid, I would imagine it was re-recorded in London to avoid the union reuse fees from the orchestra in Hollywood. Evidently it was cheaper to record it again instead of just paying the reuse fees. It really makes little sense to me, but this was a pretty common practice in the 1970s and early '80s. NP: Hour of the Gun
posted 10-16-2001 10:35 AM PT (US)

jonmark Oscar® Nominee	. [Message edited by jonmark on 10-16-2001]
posted 10-16-2001 10:59 AM PT (US)

jonmark Oscar® Nominee	[QUOTE]Originally posted by Marian Schedenig: I've never heard or seen Antz Hello all. I'm new to the group. Just thought I'd let you know Marian that ANTZ is one of my favorite animated scores. It's so fun and every theme(there are quite a few)is great. It's one of the best things I've heard from the Media Ventures group. The CD just makes me happy. It drags a little bit with some of the longer cues in the end, but overall it's a wonderful CD. It has everything: humor, romance, drama... some of the cues just make me laugh out loud. I've only heard Chicken Run and Shrek once, and that was when I saw the films and I thought they were good, but not nearly as enjoyable as ANTZ. Anyone who doesnt own that CD should go out and buy it right now! --Jonathan
posted 10-16-2001 11:04 AM PT (US)

HAL 2000 Oscar® Winner	So they'll be using the original score tapes. I can't remember from the film but isn't that electronic "boing, boing, boing boing" in the main title more prominent in the film than on the rerecording?
posted 10-16-2001 11:10 AM PT (US)

TV's Frank Oscar® Winner	I think you are right, Hal, that electronic counterpoint is more prominent in the film. I just thought it had been dialed for the album release, similar to how Goldsmith dialed down some of the Blaster beam effect in the ST:TMP score of one year later. I actually did not realize until this recent news that the DAMIEN album is a re-recording. It's been awhile since I've seen the film but I didn't notice glaring differences from the score in the film to what was on the album. It's a great score with way you slice it!
posted 10-16-2001 11:22 AM PT (US)

TV's Frank Oscar® Winner	Oops, I meant to type "It's a great score either way you slice it"! I blame my keyboard.
posted 10-16-2001 11:28 AM PT (US)

Nicolai P. Zwar Oscar® Winner	WHOOOOPIEEEEEEEEEEEE! (When Varese announced that they were redoing Omen I & II, I hoped that somebody would do II as well. Great to see it gets done so soon.)
posted 10-16-2001 01:28 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by jonmark: Just thought I'd let you know Marian that ANTZ is one of my favorite animated scores. I adore Chicken Run, and I've often seen it compared to Antz, so I expect to really like that one as well when I finally get to see the movie. NP: By Request (Boston Pops, John Williams)
posted 10-16-2001 03:51 PM PT (US)

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