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SEBULBA

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Anyone pick this up yet? Is it a complete score? How's the quality?
posted 10-09-2001 03:26 PM PT (US) 
TV's Frank

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I picked it up on my lunch, along with FINAL CONFLICT, but have not had time yet to listen to either. They both appear pretty complete, though!
posted 10-09-2001 04:23 PM PT (US) 
TV's Frank

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OK, I've now skimmed a bit through FINAL CONFLICT and am completely blown away. I've had this score for over 10 years, it's always been a fav of mine, but hearing it in glorious remastered is fantastic! I'm giddy!
Finally, all the nuances of orchestrational and choral textures can be heard clearly, even in the subtle sections. The unreleased tracks add even more depth. Also, if you keep the final track playing through its length, there is a creepy little bonus cue tagged onto the end!
Now, on to THE OMEN...
posted 10-09-2001 04:43 PM PT (US) 
SEBULBA

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Well that's definately good news.
posted 10-09-2001 04:45 PM PT (US) 
Wedge

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This was discussed in another post, but while "The Omen" is expanded it is definitely NOT complete.
posted 10-09-2001 04:57 PM PT (US) 
Dylan

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Yeah, it's about 5 tracks away from being complete I think (I read the complete is 24 or 25 tracks and this is 20).
posted 10-09-2001 05:32 PM PT (US) 
Nicolai P. Zwar

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Is the cue where Peck and Warner are in the monastary on the expanded Omen CD? That's the missing cue I'd want the most, followed by the ride to the church and the dog's synthesizer music.
posted 10-09-2001 11:17 PM PT (US) 
Shaun Rutherford

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I'll tell you what, the dog's synth music isn't on there, and neither is the alternate version. Also not on there is some of the most memorable music in the film, when Baylock pushes Lee Remick out the window. That part still freaks me out, and the music isn't on here. Bastards. The ride to the church is on there, but not the "reprise" of the cue after "Safari Park" (which I prefer, mainly because it starts immediately with the organ hits).Like I wrote a couple of weeks ago (I think), I'll be keeping the boot.
Shaun
posted 10-10-2001 08:53 AM PT (US) 
TV's Frank

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I think the reprise is included in "Safari Park". When I listened to it last night, anyway, the cue has a pause after the scene where Damien stares down the giraffe and then the music picks up as the baboons attack the car. I always liked this version as well and was happy to find it on this new release.
I was also kinda bummed about the dog synth sting not being on the album, but it's such a short cue I guess Varese figured it'd be tough to add. Maybe they should've tacked it on as hidden bonus cue, like the whispering cue tacked onto the end of "The Final Conflict". That synth cue, though, is one of most unnerving parts of THE OMEN score!
posted 10-10-2001 09:21 AM PT (US) 
Graham Watt

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What IS the doggy synth bit exactly? Is it that kind of pulsing reverberating breathing chiming thing? Was that really Goldsmith's work?In an old review I've fished out from when the laserdisc appeared, Roberto Cueto talks a bit about how we can finally compare the old film version with this new one, with the opportunity of hearing thirty minutes of previously unrecorded music as Goldsmith intended it to be in the film. He goes on to imply that the synth bits for the dog were imposed afterwards and had nothing to do with Mr G, his original scoring for those scenes having been rejected.
posted 10-10-2001 10:52 AM PT (US) 
Scott

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Where is Jeron in all of this. Mr. Goldsmith not around for these threads? I gotta talk to that boy.
Scottposted 10-10-2001 12:15 PM PT (US) 
LRobHubbard

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Is the choral rustling cue (heard when the Hellhound is stalking Gregory Peck through the house) on the disc, or has that been left off?
posted 10-10-2001 01:12 PM PT (US) 
Dean Evans

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As Shaun Rutherford pointed out above, the absence of the music where Lee Remick gets pushed to her death by Mrs.Baylock is a big let down;I was counting on hearing that piece with improved sound as it is one of the many highlights of the score and one of my all time favorite pieces of Goldsmith's music!I guess I'll also be holding on to the boot!

Dean.
posted 10-10-2001 01:48 PM PT (US) 
TV's Frank

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LRob, that cue you mention, when he dog is stalking Thorn in the house, is unfortunately not on the album and I do miss it. Along with the dog synth pulse early in the film, the choral whispering in that particular scene is one of the most disturbing parts of the score.Spekaing of which, one recent Halloween, I went to a work party and we watched both THE EXORCIST and THE OMEN. People said that THE OMEN scared them much more, mainly due to Goldsmith's music and the music for those two scenes specifically.
posted 10-10-2001 02:00 PM PT (US) 
Bill R. Myers

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quote:
Originally posted by TV's Frank:
I was also kinda bummed about the dog synth sting not being on the album, but it's such a short cue I guess Varese figured it'd be tough to add.From what I understand, Goldsmith originally scored the entire scene of the nanny's suicide and not just the appearance of the dog. That would be great to hear, but as long as the album has The Day He Died and 666 on it, I'm happy.
By the way, it wasn't until I saw The Omen for a second time that I heard Goldsmith's cue for the "dog stalking Thorn" scene. Subtle!
posted 10-10-2001 03:32 PM PT (US) 
Shaun Rutherford

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The music for the dog "talking to" Damien early in the film is what I was referring to, and it was the music that freaked me out most when I first saw the movie. That music alone gave me nightmares for the longest time!Thanks to Brad for including it!
Shaun
posted 10-10-2001 08:20 PM PT (US) 
Nicolai P. Zwar

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What? The scene with the rustling choir when the dog is stalking Peck in the house isn't one the expanded CD either? Why NOT!?
posted 10-11-2001 01:47 AM PT (US) 
Dana Wilcox

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Oh, c'mon, folks! Hugely better sound, more music... Jeez, listening to it already scares the spit out of me as it is!
How about a little "the glass is half full" instead of all of this "glass is half empty" stuff for a change, huh? I love mine, in fact about 20 times as much as I liked the old one, and the same goes for FINAL CONFLICT. Maybe I'm just one of those dumb ol' easy to please kinda guys, but I think Varese deserves huge praise for these two releases rather than...this! 
[Message edited by Dana Wilcox on 10-11-2001]
posted 10-11-2001 03:27 PM PT (US) 
Jeron

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quote:
Originally posted by Dana Wilcox:
Maybe I'm just one of those dumb ol' easy to please kinda guys, but I think Varese deserves huge praise for these two releases rather than...this!
I agree, Dana. Shaun is just a boogerhead, that's all...

posted 10-11-2001 04:30 PM PT (US) 
Timmer

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Spot on Graham, that is the piece!It's a very corny and quite jarring cue and I wouldn't be that surprised if it was nothing to do with Goldsmith, however it would of been nice to hear it included in the deluxe release.
posted 10-11-2001 05:41 PM PT (US) 
Shaun Rutherford

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(showering Varese with praise)Now, do not tell me that if you didn't already have boots featuring the rest of the music that you wouldn't be bitching about the lack of several important cues.
I have them, and when the Varese disc came out, I was hoping I could just toss the boot. Now, instead of having the original Varese release and a boot of the complete score, I now can toss the Varese version (which has better artwork, I think; I hate when they have to update older film posters to make them seem "hip" and "sweet"; a good example of this is The Day The Earth Stood Still.......yuck!), but I'm still stuck with the boot if I want everything.
Shaun
posted 10-12-2001 09:14 AM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
