Must be the best DVD presentation of all times.

Features a great transfer of the director' cut, outstanding documentaries, not to mention the inclusion of "Love Conquers All" Sid Sheinberg's laughable and senseless 94min version of the movie!!

KS

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Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
3 DVD?? As in "three"?? Wow, didn't know that. So that's why it's so expensive. Still haven't ordered it myself.

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Well, it's 3 DVDs because it has:

Disc 1: Gilliam's director's cut of the film (NON-anamorphic widescreen)

Disc 2: "The Battle For Brazil" documentary, and tons and tons of extras.

Disc 3: The "Love Conquers All" television 90-something minute hacked edit of the film, for comparison

It's a great set!

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Originally posted by dgoldwas:
Disc 1: Gilliam's director's cut of the film (NON-anamorphic widescreen)

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Perhaps there'll be a new release...?

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Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
So that's why it's so expensive.

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"Expensive" is relative... take it from someone who paid more than twice what they are now asking for Criterion's original LaserDisc pressing of Brazil.

That is postively priceless. Lux, I have forgotten more about Terry Gilliam's films than you will ever know. What a presumptuous piece of sh*t you are.

Let's get this straight, Andre: You are a journalist. I, on the other hand, actually make movies for a living. So I think it is I who should be impressed that you managed to find something meaningful in Gilliam's masterwork.

But don't take offense, please. I'm sure you are quite the fan, what with you buying the Brazil DVD months and months after it's initial release, not to mention a full two years after it's release on Laser. I, on the other hand, stood in line on the first day it was available anywhere.

Yes, I'm sure you are quite the Gilliam fan.

NP Phantom of the Opera, Morricone

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Originally posted by joan hue:
Andre, I'm embarrassed to admit I've never seen Brazil. I don't even know what it is about. Duh. After all this hype, I better rent it.

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I've only seen it years ago, when I still expected something "Python-esque" when hearing the name "Terry Gilliam", so I was confused and disappointed. But although I can hardly remember anything now (except that it was VERY weird), I think it's a great film.

And it has the great Ian Holm. What more dou you want?

It is just pure ignorance when someone never gets to know me, but thinks he has me pigeonholed... and then has the nerve to act surprised when I suddenly don't fit in the tiny little box he has fashioned for me.

If Lux had ever taken the time to give two sh*ts about anything but his own opinions, he may have noticed (as people like Lightborne have in the past) that there is more to me than the "alienated gringo" he consistently paints me as.

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Originally posted by scoreguy16:
What's anamorphic really mean?

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When referring to anamorphic VIDEO, it means that it's enchanced for 16x9 (widescreen) televisions. Instead of letterboxing the image (adding black bars at the top and the bottom to preserve the original theatrical aspect ratio), the image is actually squeezed horizontally when put to DVD.

Then your DVD player either stretches it back out for your widescreen television, or (if you don't have a widescreen television) it removes every 4th line - simulating letterboxing for you, and presenting it in the aspect ratio.

The advantage with anamorphic DVDs is that they tend to get a better picture for those with (and even without!) widescreen televisions. Annoying moire patterns tend to go away, due to the higher quality, and it lends itself to a better image.

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Originally posted by Lightborne:
there are twenty people out there with just as much of a passion and have made films... ten times as many, ten times better than you and cannot afford to have the luxury of standing in line the first day a new laserdisc or dvd comes out.

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I've stood in line the day something has come out, and I certainly (especially then) didn't have body bags full of money to spend. It's called being a dedicated fan, something he probably is, and has zero to do with one's income or level of luxury.

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Andre, although usually on the offensive, simply was recognizing a common ground you both can agree on. I almost shed a tear with that "after all" phrase you took as so spiteful. Not everything written on this board is out of malice, Bear.

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I think Andre was once again trying his very best to be condescending towards Big Bear, whom he obviously has some sort of issue with. And yes, I think most of what Lux writes is full of malice, whether it be veiled or blatant. I tried to iron something out with him, but when he knows he's wrong, he does nothing but continue to dodge questions and behave like a cornered animal. Why not just continue talking about the subject? Is it that difficult to not be patronizing?

I don't think Andre was attacked at all. I think that Big Bear was simply fed up with Andre's ignorance and attitude, so everyone please stop acting as if Andre is being unjustly treated. He isn't a martyr and shouldn't be lionized. He was attempting to camouflage a barb towards someone and was duly called on it.

Back to the subject, BRAZIL is a fantastic movie that truly takes you on a journey and is worthy of repeat viewings. I felt like I was on some sort of drug while watching it, and it was wonderfully unsettling at points.

I would recommend to anyone who hasn't seen it to set aside the Gilliam-Python notions. Much like Stephen King is capable of both Christine & Misery as well as Stand By Me, The Shawshank Redemption, and The Green Mile, Gilliam is likewise a jack of all trades. It's really cool. However, it is unfortunate that it isn't anamorphic widescreen. At the rate that they are releasing Special Editions, then Deluxe Editions, to Pee In Your Pants Uber editions of the same movie, perhaps another release of the worthy BRAZIL is waiting in the wings.

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Originally posted by Lightborne:
There's something to be said for being humble, Bear.

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Yeah, like "there's a time and a place for it" and "putting the smack down on Lux's withering sarcasm is not one of them".

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Always remember, there are twenty people out there with just as much of a passion and have made films... ten times as many, ten times better than you...

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Why, oh why, is it that in any creative field the totally insecure people see it as one of their self-appointed jobs to try and "humble" the confident or successful people? I never said I was the greatest filmmaker of all time. In fact, I don't really wholly subscribe to the notion of "better than". Try coming to Los Angeles, where such a worldview is a perfect recipe for a calamitous nervous breakdown and speedy retreat back to whatever SmallTown USA you came from, all within the first six months or year. I've seen it. It sucks. Don't give in to the dark side, friends. In fact, the more I accomplish as a filmmaker, the more I have tried (with some success) to view this whole "better than" garbage for what it is: someone's opinion. And you know what they say about opinions and assh*les.

I'll be the first to admit that, relatively speaking, I have just started out in this business. I admire a lot of directors. But you know what? Just as I could never make their movies, they sure-as-hell couldn't make mine. It's just about your point of view, how you tell stories. (Of course, there are cats like Michael Bay for whom storytelling doesn't seem to be their first priority, but hey... just my opinion again.)

I covered why I got angry at Andre in my previous post, so I won't hash that out again. Regardless, Lightborne, your passive aggressive attempt to "put me in my place" as a filmmaker is just another small-caliber bullet fired into a beaten-but-sturdy kevlar vest. I've had worse shots taken at me, and none of them will ever stay my resolve.

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...and cannot afford to have the luxury of standing in line the first day a new laserdisc or dvd comes out.

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Frankly, I couldn't afford it. And I actually had to carve out time in my day to go do it. But that is what being a real fan is all about, isn't it?

Oh yeah, one more thing about this... I say anyone who posts here with any kind of regularity never gets to complain about not having any "luxury" time. Come on... this board is one gigantic time killer, and everyone knows it. No one here gets to cry "Cinderella" and have anyone take them seriously.

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Not everything written on this board is out of malice, Bear.

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Even if Lux's post was not malicious (which, as Emo pointed out, it was), that's not the point. The point was that he had the gall to act surprised when I suddenly turned out to be something other than the retarded caricature of a person he constantly paints me as, but has never had any rational basis for.

Also, big time compliments to Dan for clearly explaining what "anamorphic widescreen" is. I've been trying to explain it to my parents for years now, and never did that well.

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Originally posted by joan hue:
Andre, I'm embarrassed to admit I've never seen Brazil. I don't even know what it is about. Duh. After all this hype, I better rent it. How is the score?

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Joan, I thihk Michael Kamen's score is just perfect for the movie. He uses a lot of references to Ary Barroso's "Aquarela do Brasil" (which is the tune that inspired Gilliam to do the movie) towards the score and it only makes it better.

In my opinion, it's Kamen's best to date!

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Originally posted by Emo:
I think that Big Bear was simply fed up with Andre's ignorance and attitude,

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I also fart in public elevators, specially after eat a complete Feijoada.

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Originally posted by Emo:
when he knows he's wrong, he does nothing but continue to dodge questions and behave like a cornered animal.

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Originally posted by Big Bear:
It is one of Kamen's absolute best, that's for sure.

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So, he DOES like BRAZIL after all!

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Originally posted by dgoldwas:
When referring to anamorphic VIDEO, it means that it's enchanced for 16x9 (widescreen) televisions. Instead of letterboxing the image (adding black bars at the top and the bottom to preserve the original theatrical aspect ratio), the image is actually squeezed horizontally when put to DVD.

Then your DVD player either stretches it back out for your widescreen television, or (if you don't have a widescreen television) it removes every 4th line - simulating letterboxing for you, and presenting it in the aspect ratio.

The advantage with anamorphic DVDs is that they tend to get a better picture for those with (and even without!) widescreen televisions. Annoying moire patterns tend to go away, due to the higher quality, and it lends itself to a better image.

Hope that helps,
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Thanks Dan, it helped a lot.

I just didn't get what "Instead of letterboxing the image (adding black bars at the top and the bottom to preserve the original theatrical aspect ratio), the image is actually squeezed horizontally when put to DVD" means...

Can you be more didactic about it?

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Originally posted by Emo:
when he knows he's wrong, he does nothing but continue to dodge questions and behave like a cornered animal.

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Originally posted by André Lux:

But I am right.

Now what?
Emo is so confused...

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Originally posted by André Lux:
So, he DOES like BRAZIL after all!

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Yes, he does.... imagine that.

Someday you will see it too.

Till this day come, keep it coming.

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Originally posted by André Lux:
Thanks Dan, it helped a lot.

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no problem! (And who says we can't have civilized conversations?!)

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I just didn't get what "Instead of letterboxing the image (adding black bars at the top and the bottom to preserve the original theatrical aspect ratio), the image is actually squeezed horizontally when put to DVD" means...

Can you be more didactic about it?

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Ah. try this link - it should explain everything (better than I did!)
http://gregl.net/videophile/anamorphic.htm

Dan

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Originally posted by dgoldwas:
no problem! (And who says we can't have civilized conversations?!)

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No one said it, Dan!

Don't get paranoid because of a bunch of narrow-minded losers!

Do like me: just laugh upon all these hysterical figures. The more you laugh, the more they get mad!!

BTW, thanks a lot for the link you just posted!

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Originally posted by André Lux:
Don't get paranoid because of a bunch of narrow-minded losers!

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heh. believe me - I'm not the paranoid one! (We all know who is....)

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BTW, thanks a lot for the link you just posted!

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Originally posted by dgoldwas:
heh. believe me - I'm not the paranoid one! (We all know who is....)
Dan

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You know Dan, I understand you and Peter don't like each other, but I have to say that as far as moderating is concerned, he does a fine job.

Ok, I don't agree with the censorship or the blocking of controversial members as Ford Thaxton or DANIEL2, but the only thing I can say is: it's his site. And nothing will change this.

I've encoutered some REALLY pathetic message board's moderators over the years, believe me... People that really consider themselves as God all might.

Things here just don't get out of control as they got over FSM - where the self-proclaimed moderator PUSHED the mob to cry "lynch" for his own personal vendetta - because of Peter.

He is simply ignoring you.
He could do worst things, you know...

Just let it go.
You can alwyas talk to me, if you want.

Just my two cents.
Don't hate me for that, ok?

I wasn't complaining about his moderation; my "beef" with him was his apparent one-sidedness when it came to answering a particular question.

Believe me - if Peter's going to ignore me, I have NO problem with that! But it's rude to ignore me if he asks me a question and I answer it and ask him one back (out of politeness).