Normally I'd been in there pitching the first hissie fit but I thought I'd chill for once and let it slide.

But this is once again reaching the boil over point, so I thought I'd show up and try to break down the cult of personality some of us have formed with our leader, the on-line version of mind control.

The boom falls, but soon after Pete always tries to justify his actions (what, me fascist?), crack a few self-depecrating jokes to make it seem he's an easy-going guy with a sense of humor, and tries to make things seem like normal. Then he sighs on about how he's such a good but misunderstood person because there are so many posts he'd like to close or people he'd like to chuck but he's too kind-hearted. He leaves things alone for a little while but then that Nazi bug crawls up his butt again and whamo!

And for the record, I love Daniel 2, that Brit with Balls, and he takes way too much flak for the stuff he posts. Pete slams him too and others--is this the proper role of a moderator?!

There are alot of things I like about this site but this recurring thought police is its largest drawback.

I know, I've heard it all before, soon will appear the chorus of little toady brown-nosers: It's Pete's site, he can do what he wants; Pete does a good job; we want order; we want our tongues cut out, etc. etc. etc.

There's nothing any of us can do about it other than leave, but we're so hooked on talking with each other that we take the beatings as part of the price, like some coke whore who puts out for her fix.

A sad and sorry state of affairs. Pete butt out. Keep your laws off my neurons.

But it is CREEPY none-the-less:

1.because it induces self-censorship it doesnt promote free and creative conversations

2. ONE MAN determines what is off topic
I MEAN WHAT MIGHT THAT MAN'S BIASES BE

look at something like what started this latest debate why was that allowed in 1st place

3. I mean is discussing LPs vs. CDs off topic?

4. From what i have seen the off topic stuff develops naturally why not LET US ADULTS determine if it is off topic or not

5. once we stop posting to a post FINE CLOSE IT

6. conversation flows it is not static
connections occur
serendipty exists
talk is a creative process as is debate WHY STIFLE IT

7. If you consider a THREAD OFF TOPIC DONT POST ON THAT THREAD why prevent us from posting

If PeterK just let the original thread alive, the discussion would go on till the day it get forgoten and the thread would die in peace.

But now that it was deleted, five new threads were created to talk not only about the subject of the original deleted thread, but also to complain about the censorship...

Even Joel "CherryJuice" Rixman, nazirator of the FSM Kindergarten Board made an entrance just to express how tough it is to be a moderator - this from someone who fight to his teeth to be proclaimed moderator!!
At least PeterK has the excuse of being the owner of the site...

Truly amusing!

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Originally posted by JJH:
what Lancelot said.

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I am glad that at least someone read what he says...

Considering what you just wrote, I don't think you did.

And in a way it isn't all Pete's site, sure he put it up and pays for it, but we're the people who show up and make it a forum not Pete, who is he to come crashing in.

Fascism implies more than telling people how to live, and then enforcing it. It also implies a purity of race. Near as I can tell, we're pretty open about membership and expression of opinions, here. PeterK doesn't lock me out of the board because I disagree with him about the quality (or lack thereof) of Michael Bay's films...(!)

I'm sorry your platform/forum for free speech got shut down. Is it concieveable that this isn't the place for it? I've had some of my posts deleted in the past, too. Didn't mean I thought I was being treated unfairly, oppressed by a "fascist" regime being dictated to me through this message board. It just isn't that extreme.

I think (and this is just me, here) that having my post shut down doesn't suggest that someone is telling me how to live my life--because (and it may be hard to believe, but) I do have a life outside of the message board.

"I know nuttzzing!"

I am in no way a suck up, and the people on here that know me can attest to it. However...

Again, we are all invited here to this place. And if you don't like it, or the way it's run, piss off and go somewhere else.

You scream and rant and rave about "freedom of speach" and such, but then get upset when someone stands by their differing opinions.

Let me reinterate: we are [b]invited[b] here, as guests. If I invited any of you over to my house, and you acted in a manner which I found rude, inappropriate, etc., you would be shown the door with as much force as necessary (including kicked in the tail, calling the cops, and maybe a few well-placed rounds from the guns). And I can use the jackboots, being of full German descent.

Freedom of speach doesn't give you the right to do that in a place where you have been invited, and don't abide by the stated rules. Read your damn Bill of Rights (for the Americans here).

I wish there was a killfile function on this website like there is on my Usenet reader. It would be used extensively.

The standard response of the spineless, dithering, gutless, prissy and supercilious 'little man' who's incapable of engaging in intelligent discussion or debate without haughtily proclaiming himself to be somehow 'above the level of the discussion'.....they enter an interesting off-topic discussion to criticise the content or complain about its very existence, and then announce their cowardly intention to depart the discussion before they have to face up to the inevitable responses.....that is until the next time an interesting off-topic discussion arises...... Usually such prudish and priggish individuals then feel compelled to return to the discussion to 'register their disgust' at the continuation of the debate before finally displaying their simperingly obsequious sycophancy by whining to the board administrator (or nanny) when they inevitably end up losing the argument.

Allow me to remind everyone of Andre Lux's insightful, nail-on-the-head exposure of the blinkered, selfish and sanctimoniously hypocritical nature and actions of many of those who complain about so-called off-topic discussion and perceived rudeness......

1) Almost all off-topic threads are the ones who get the great number of replies?

2) Most of those replies are from people protesting about off-topic threads?

3) The people who protest against off-topic threads are always the same?

4) And, althought they are always expressing how they hate off-topic threads, never miss a chance to jump into an off-topic discussion just to share with us how they hate it?

5) Off-topic threads are generally the most interesting to read, but nevertheless are closed or erased because some of these people who hate off-topic threads never miss the chance to express their hatefull and prejudicial points of view on off-topic threads? - Andre Lux Aug 17th 2001

Yes, it would appear 'our Kev' is a compulsive member of the category 4 club.......

Oh, by the way, Kevin, Funf was German too......

Ah, that takes me back. Whilst the Luftwaffe were pounding London into the dust all around us, killing and maiming the brave and innocent citizens of Britain's capital, we would still manage to laugh our socks off when Tommy Handley's radio show came on and a funny little man with a comical German accent would announce, "This is Funf speaking"....

And I used to love Handley's jokes, one of which went something like this -

What's the difference between a German and a shopping trolley?
A shopping trolley has a mind of its own.

Ha, ha. Of course, we didn't have shopping trolleys back in the '40s so I guess it must have been a perambulator or something else that seemed to want to go in the opposite direction.

Poltically I believe in fascism--a one world government ruled with an iron fist by a supreme emperor (who just happens to be me)--any other form of government just seems to fall short somehow