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Topic: Vinyl ST LP's: Keep 'em or dump 'em?

Greg Bryant
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Over the past five years, I've been slowly but surely buying CD copies of most of my vinyl LP soundtract collection. Nearly everything that I own on vinyl I now own on CD (with the exception of anything not yet released on CD).
I also just bought a condo and I am in the process of moving again. So once again, I am faced with transporting over 200 LP's which I rarely ever listen to.The question I wish to put to you (to those of you with ST LP's) is what do you do with your LP's when you pick up a copy of the same score in CD? Do you keep the ST LP's; do you sell them; do you hang on to the LP's in the hopes of selling them to someone for a high price?
PLEASE NOTE: I'm not referring to those LP's that have never had (at least a legitimate non-boot) CD release. I will hold onto those until they are released in CD (if ever).
posted 08-16-2001 06:20 AM PT (US) 
wistiti

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Keep 'em.Besides, even if I try to sell them, no one wants them, except some used CD stores which give me 50 cents for a vinyl. So I'm stuck.
I can't say I have many soundtrack LPs though, but I do have some other stuff on LP that I later bought on CD, and I keep both of them.
For whatever reason, the bass reproduction and the depth of the music is better on an LP than on a crappy CD. So sometimes, even though I have the CD, if I want to listen to a particular album, I'll spin the LP because I like it's sound more.Oh yeah, and I still buy LPs from time to time.
I found Mutiny on the bounty, Fall of the Roman Empire, Explorers and Airport 75 last week. But I only picked up Bounty. I left the others for some other time. Not likely many people will be interested in them.posted 08-16-2001 06:39 AM PT (US) 
JJH

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I too say keep them.posted 08-16-2001 08:10 AM PT (US) 
SEBULBA

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I've kept all of mine. I've thought about putting some up for sale on ebay, becuase sometimes vinyl can go for a decent amount, but I really don't know why I keep 'em.
posted 08-16-2001 11:15 AM PT (US) 
PeterK

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Some people hang paintings on their walls, others put very classic album covers in nice frames and hang those on walls. It's a neat thing.Vinyl's not dying, either! Apparently, some label in the UK is releasing a bunch of vinyl. It's nothing new, though - GNP/Crescendo has these out on CD:
Star Trek (TV)
Best of Mission Impossible (TV)
Forbidden Planet
The Man From U.N.C.L.E.
The Time Machineposted 08-16-2001 11:39 AM PT (US) 
PeterK

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Uhh, and no. I haven't sold off any of my vinyl. I find myself wanting to keep it.
posted 08-16-2001 11:42 AM PT (US) 
Graham Watt

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I'm keeping all my old vinyl stuff, even when I've replaced some things on CD. LPs are so BIG, the covers are lovely, and I adore looking at the grooves to know when there's a loud bit coming up. Did anyone see that guy on the game show who could name compositions (classical, I think) just by studying the grooves? Groovy!
posted 08-16-2001 02:15 PM PT (US) 
Gae

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I too will keep all of my hundreds of LPs. I also love the size and shape of the covers and perusing the sleeve is more fulfilling than struggling with miniscules sleeve-notes on CDs. Where I live now, I have a lot of great storage space, ideal for all my LPs. Every so often I dig out an LP, listen to it and tape it for listening in the car. I am rediscovering scores I've had for years and even getting to know some for the first time. It also saves a lot of expense on buying new CDs. To be honest, the quality of these recordings sounds just as good as when I record one of my CDs. Personally, I find the depth and dynamic range better on some records than on many CDs. The audio on a CD sounds "flat"...does anyone understand what I mean? A lot of LPs seem to have a fuller quality and more "personal" sound if you can ignore the surface scratches...I know what I mean anyway!
. Of course, the beauty of CDs is their versatility, durability and compactness. Its also great using programming facilities on a CD which makes an album different and surprising on each new listen. Gae NP Hollywood Thrillers
posted 08-16-2001 02:29 PM PT (US) 
Timmer

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Well said Graham (good to see you here after a small absence) and Gae, I still love my vynyl and yes Graham I did see that person on tv who could tell what track it was but for the life of me I can't remember what program it was, probably one of those 'lets get members of the public involved' type Saturday evening programs! I still prefer to play my MASADA lp rather than Varese's awful cd release...I wish I'd never bothered! plus I still have around 300 lp's that either haven't seen the light of day on cd or I just don't want to pay out on a cd copy of the same score, sometimes this can be due to the fact that I only maybe like 1 or 2 tracks from the original, FREUD, A PATCH OF BLUE and John Barry's SOMEWHERE IN TIME all fall into this catagory.
posted 08-16-2001 05:14 PM PT (US) 
wistiti

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quote:
Originally posted by Graham Watt:
I'm keeping all my old vinyl stuff, even when I've replaced some things on CD. LPs are so BIG, the covers are lovely, and I adore looking at the grooves to know when there's a loud bit coming up. Did anyone see that guy on the game show who could name compositions (classical, I think) just by studying the grooves? Groovy!Weren't you supposed to be on some desert island somewhere? Or am I confusing people?
posted 08-16-2001 05:18 PM PT (US) 
Timmer

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A very large Desert Island...SPAIN I think it's called
posted 08-16-2001 05:42 PM PT (US) 
Lou Goldberg

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A friend of mine with every high end ears says that if you get very good LP equipment, we're talking $1000 turntables and $400 cartidges and just as pricy speakers and such, the analog LPs absolutely blow CD sound away. Even beat up LPS that normally register surface noise can sound near to CD perfect with a good stylus/cartridge and receiver.I've a tin ear and no money to buy all that high end stuff. No way I can anchor my turntable into the foundation of my house (some audiophiles actually do this to decrease vibration--I think there would be more personally), etc. So, CDs sound just fine to me, but they are a junk experience for the well-tuned ear canal.
I own the LPs, in many cases I've bought the CDs too, I like the big covers, can't sell them for much money, would rather keep them. Actually, it would be too much trouble to try and get rid of them for the return.
But also, I've learned from dumping things in the past that what you let go seems to be the thing you come to miss down the road and I've enough regrets to know better now.
Keep 'em.
posted 08-17-2001 02:20 AM PT (US) 
Graham Watt

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wistiti, you are correct. I WAS on a desert island for six weeks, but, as you can see, I'm home. Going to get down to some serious LP listening now, after six weeks of listening only to waves and seabirds. Thanks for the welcome back, Timmer!
posted 08-17-2001 03:45 AM PT (US) 
wistiti

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quote:
Originally posted by Lou Goldberg:
A friend of mine with every high end ears says that if you get very good LP equipment, we're talking $1000 turntables and $400 cartidges and just as pricy speakers and such, the analog LPs absolutely blow CD sound away. Even beat up LPS that normally register surface noise can sound near to CD perfect with a good stylus/cartridge and receiver.
I can confirm this.
When I was 15 years old, I went with my parents to one of their friends' house for a gettogether. From somewhere, those people had gotten an old (made in the early 1980's), but high-end record player with small problems, and they had fixed it's problems. When I played a record on it, I was almost blown away. Up to that time I had been brainwashed by the common propaganda about how CDs are the best thing ever.[Message edited by wistiti on 08-17-2001]
posted 08-17-2001 06:59 AM PT (US) 
Dr. Zaius

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Seems my post that was on here disappered
?????????CDs are a RIP OFF
(except they are more sturdy and programmable)digital cant compare to analog
STUDIES DOWN BY PETE TOWNSHEN PROVE LPs sound better
they have a BROWN gooey sound (van halen quote)
CDs like genetic food claim to be better BUT ARE NOT!!!! only reason brought in to make money for the people owning the product
nothing SOUNDWISE beats an LP
check out the studies that have been done on this subject
plus there have been reports of CD starting to wear outposted 08-17-2001 09:12 AM PT (US) 
Dr. Zaius

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LPs also have readable lyricsgatefold and covers provided big pictures
WHO STONEs ZEPPELIN all made special LPS with inserts Covers that were not just pretty but had gimmicks you cant really do with CDS
CDs are not as Good Sounding and never will beposted 08-17-2001 09:14 AM PT (US) 
scored for life

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Well, i for one don't want my LP's anymore. I have over 200, nearly 150 of them have NEVER been played because i purchased them in bulk almost simultaneously with the advent of CD's. When i purchased the CD, the LP was never opened. If anyone is interested or knows of anyone interested let me know. Remember, they are in mint condition with vinyl-protected covers. ALL movie scores!
posted 08-17-2001 03:01 PM PT (US) 
Dr. Zaius

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i am interestedmy email is generalattar@yahoo.com
posted 08-17-2001 03:39 PM PT (US) 
Lou Goldberg

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So am Ilouisg@umich.edu
posted 08-17-2001 08:44 PM PT (US) 
jonathan_little

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quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Zaius:
plus there have been reports of CD starting to wear outIn all reality, CDs do not wear out. There is no contact between the laser reading the disc and the disc itself. No contact means no wear.
Lets see your LPs hold up for a million plays.
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Zaius:
CDs are not as Good Sounding and never will beI *pop* don't *skip* *hiss* agree. *Click* *pop* *scratch* *skip* *hiss* *skip* (repeat)
posted 08-17-2001 08:56 PM PT (US) 
Dr. Zaius

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i said non scratching are you stupid?what a cd sound with big scratch HUH?
THE FACTS OF LIFE for an ignorant child:
live is best analog is second best and digital third bestposted 08-17-2001 10:03 PM PT (US) 
JJH

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I must agree with the good doctor.LPs really sound fabulous.
they have a presence and warmth of sound CDs just will not ever achieve.
NP -- Bite the Bullett, North
posted 08-17-2001 10:28 PM PT (US) 
Timmer

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Agreed!, I've always said this about LP's but you really do need top rate equipment to get the best from them.Dr.Pissypants, how come every time someone makes a light hearted or tongue in cheek comment you label them ignorant and stupid, it's YOU who's the ignoramous! I would suggest you go out and get yourself a humour implant!
posted 08-18-2001 06:39 AM PT (US) 
wistiti

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quote:
Originally posted by scored for life:
Well, i for one don't want my LP's anymore. I have over 200, nearly 150 of them have NEVER been played because i purchased them in bulk almost simultaneously with the advent of CD's. When i purchased the CD, the LP was never opened. If anyone is interested or knows of anyone interested let me know. Remember, they are in mint condition with vinyl-protected covers. ALL movie scores!I'm also interested: isham@canada.com
posted 08-18-2001 08:06 AM PT (US) 
Dr. Zaius

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timmer SON we have established who is ignorant remember you dont know what happened in scotlandi ask if they are ignorant first
and no they were making a point with humor and i attack the point not the humor
get it? are we clear?
BTW i can call you son, there is something your mother never told you... some years back i was on vacation in england and...
[Message edited by Dr. Zaius on 08-18-2001]
posted 08-18-2001 08:45 AM PT (US) 
Timmer

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If you'd made that last comment while stood in front of me I'd have punched your ****ing lights out you cheap prick!To everyone else here I apologise about this posting I'll not be replying to anymore of this fools comments, it ends here!
[Message edited by Timmer on 08-18-2001]
posted 08-18-2001 09:25 AM PT (US) 
Dr. Zaius

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Hey Mr. Pissypants Timmer what's wrong can't YOU take a joke that was a tongue in cheek, lighthearted comment...are you a hypocrite timmer?
posted 08-18-2001 01:54 PM PT (US) 
jonathan_little

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The response from Jonathan Little, the "stupid ignorant child:"So, umm, how does a record sound with a big scratch, HUH? In my experiences, I've found that CDs are much more durable than LPs.
As a "child" who grew up with records, I feel that CDs sound better than records ever will. That's my opinion. I don't mind listening to records, I'd just rather be listening to a CD.
Oh yeah... Have you taken your meds lately?
Timmer, if you need help knocking the doctor's lights out, just give me a holler...
[Message edited by jonathan_little on 08-18-2001]
posted 08-18-2001 05:23 PM PT (US) 
Dr. Zaius

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hey I WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT DURABILITY or PORGRAMABILITY there CDs obvioulsy are better!But a record sounds better and Townshend and others have proven it scientifcally of course you can belive what you want
but just as a concert sounds better then a record to most people so does a record compared to a cd-okay?(BTW timmer see he wasnt JOKING he was serious I told you!)
posted 08-18-2001 11:56 PM PT (US) 
Camillu

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I recently got round to re-doing my room, and finally got some old score LPs framed. They now look really neat on the wall, and I'm dying to add more.If any of you have any score LPs (or covers) you want to sell, please drop me a line at camillu@yahoo.com .
posted 11-06-2003 11:36 AM PT (US) 
El Cid
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I still have some old cassette tapes...no records, though. Maybe I'll hit myself in the head a few times to simulate the smooth, mellow !!!!POP!!!! of a !!!!!POP!!!!! record.Remember, it wasn't the CD that replaced the record...it was tape.
posted 11-07-2003 07:16 AM PT (US) 
James Phillips

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Not only did I keep all of my LP's, but continue to buy LP sondtracks. Just last night, I purchased in a Village record shop on 3rd Street, a mint copy of Jerry Fielding's THE GAUNTLET, THE PRISONER OF ZENDA, which is a terribly orchestrated rendition of Newman's by conductor Leroy Holmes; and a sealed copy of THE CLASSIC FILM MUSIC OF ERROL FLYNN by Charles Gerhardt on RCA.By the way, I also have some 8 - TRACKS left over from the Seventies, and will keep my collection of records, now over 1,000 until I die and donate them to a research library.
posted 11-07-2003 11:40 AM PT (US) 
Camillu

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Fate led me to this guy here in Malta who has a stash of LPs for sale - he acts as a selling point for various sellers.Amongst the mint Queen and Beatles gems I found some scores, including a brand new Moses LP by Morricone, which understandably was priced way too high for my budget. I did however find the Original release of Ben-Hur for $12, although the dics itself was in pretty bad shape.
posted 11-07-2003 12:27 PM PT (US) 
Timmer

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Blast from the past! whatever happened to Dr.Zaius? I should point out that me and the good Dr sorted out our differences and everything was fine and dandy...are you still here Doc Zaius? Let us know!
posted 11-07-2003 08:10 PM PT (US) 
Tom Scofield

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I have so many great scores (MASTER OF THE WORLD, anyone?) on LP that still haven't been issued on CD, it would be rediculous to throw them out, hoping some company may finally get around to issuing them on CD. Plus, many LP are quite valuable in their own right.
posted 11-07-2003 09:20 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB
