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Author	Topic: "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" - John Williams

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	And hello all muggles, I thought it would be fun to start a theard about Williams new score and the new film coming up. As I sit here, listening to "Hedwigs Theme." (For those that are not reading the books of "Harry Potter," Hedwig is his pet owl.) I am reminded of William's score to "Hook" that fantasy-dream like sound that I still love to this day. I think it's safe to say that this score will be one of the best in the decade, if not William's career So, come one and all, discuss this upcoming score by master composer, John Williams. --Brian Gryffindor Seeker NP: "Hedwig's Theme" from "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" - John Williams PS: I hope Harry and his friends have a theme track and not just Hedwig [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 08-08-2001]
posted 08-08-2001 06:46 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	This score is going to rock! It's hard not to be inspired by the novels, and Williams clearly was. I've always said that this is going to be his next Hook. Since Hedwig has her own theme, I guess it's safe to assume that we'll be getting several leitmofivic themes in this score. Which ones could it be? (SPOILERS) Harry & Co. Hedwig You-know-who Malfoy A "Flying theme" Prof. Quill Prof. Snape? Hehehe Hagrid? Neville? Hogwarts/Dumbledore? Gryffindor? Harry's parents? (rumours say that a film for the second novel is already planned. If Williams has read more than just the first novel, he might already introduce this, even though it's not overly important in the first part as far as I remember) Scabbers? (perhaps preparing for the third film ) NP: Anton Bruckner: Motets (Berlin Philharmonic, Eugen Jochum) [Message edited by Marian Schedenig on 08-08-2001]
posted 08-08-2001 07:25 PM PT (US)

wistiti Oscar® Winner	WARNING: Stupid comment to follow quote. quote: Originally posted by Marian Schedenig: This score is going to rock! I very much doubt that. The movie seems to take place before rock music came around. I would expect symphony orchestra and perhaps choir. No rock drums. No electric guitars.
posted 08-08-2001 07:30 PM PT (US)

Scott Oscar® Winner	Indeed, this score sounds like it is going to be a huge winner. Then again, I don't remember any score of Williams' that wasn't. Then again, I simply love his style. Then again, I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him. Then again, I need to go eat. Scott
posted 08-08-2001 07:30 PM PT (US)

wistiti Oscar® Winner	WARNING (again): Stupid comment to follow quote. quote: Originally posted by Scott: Indeed, this score sounds like it is going to be a huge winner. Then again, I don't remember any score of Williams' that wasn't. Well I seem to remember Seven Years in Tibet, The Lost World, Rosewood and a few dozen others did not win anything.
posted 08-08-2001 07:32 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	Marian, (looks like you read the books too) Man, you know "You know who" will have a theme! He's got too As for some of the others, I'd imagine Mr. Draco Malfoy (god I can't stand him) will have one and I would like to think the "flying theme" would be the "Quidditch Theme." As to the second film, its going from book to screenplay form now. Casting was going on but haulted due to the delayed productoin of "Stone." Hugh Grant is rumored to play the part of Gilderoy Lockhart Don't worry, Nov 16 is still the release date. And the CD is RUMORED to be released Oct 30th. --Brian Gryffindor Seeker [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 08-08-2001]
posted 08-08-2001 07:39 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by wistiti: The movie seems to take place before rock music came around. Wrong. Harry was born during the 80's. NP: Anton Bruckner: Motets (Berlin Philharmonic, Eugen Jochum)
posted 08-08-2001 07:42 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: Man, you know "You know who" will have a theme! He's got too As for some of the others, I'd imagine Mr. Draco Malfoy will have one (ass) and I would like to think the "flying theme" would be used in the "Quidditch Theme." I suppose the Quidditch music will incorporate the flying theme and Harry's and Malfoy's themes. quote: As to the second film, its going from book to screenplay form now. Casting was going on but haulted due to the delayed productoin of "Stone." Hugh Grant is rumored to play the part of Gilderoy Lockhart ROFL. No, that's a laugh of excitement. He seems to be perfect for the role! quote: [Don't worry, Nov 16 is will the theatre date.[/b] In the US. We'll have to wait to weeks longer. quote: Gryffindor Seeker I still wonder why Hermione is in Gryffindor. Why didn't the hat put her into Ravenclaw? BTW, don't Americans know what a Philosopher is?? NP: Anton Bruckner: Motets (Berlin Philharmonic, Eugen Jochum)
posted 08-08-2001 07:51 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Marian Schedenig: I suppose the Quidditch music will incorporate the flying theme and Harry's and Malfoy's themes. But Malfoy comes in in the second book...so I don't think his themes needs to be introduced in the Quidditch matches. That is of course if he has a theme. Williams might have themes for the four houses, there fore Snape and Malfoy could have the same theme....heheh As to Hermione in Gryffindor, there is no reason why she should not be there. --Brian Gryffindor Seeker [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 08-08-2001]
posted 08-08-2001 08:03 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: But Malfoy comes in in the second book...so I don't think his themes needs to be introduced in the Quidditch matches. That is of course if he has a theme. Malfoy doesn't appear in the first novel?? It's been a while since I've read them, and I have read each of them only once so far, so I find that I begin to mix them up. But I thought Malfoy already appears in the first story?? quote: Williams might have themes for the four houses, there fore Snape and Malfoy could have the same theme....heheh I don't think he'll write themes for all of the houses - too many themes. quote: As to Hermione in Gryffindor, there is no reason why she should not be there. No reason why she should not be in Gryffindor, except that the most enthusiastic pupils usually go to Ravenclaw. I think she's a bit overqualified for Gryffindor. I could go on and on about Potter, but I need to get some sleep.
posted 08-08-2001 08:11 PM PT (US)

James Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Marian Schedenig: Prof. Quill Prof. Quill? I'm disappointed in you, Marian... And yeah, this score will be awesome! That thing about Hugh Grant as Lockhart is weird... Movie Headlines said they had confirmed Grant in the role, and then Popcorn goes and asks his agency and they say they know nothing about it... Oh well... the score will be excellent! James
posted 08-08-2001 08:16 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	Malfoy is in the first book (see opening train sequence) but he dosen't play Qudditch tell book 2. --Brian Gryffindor Seeker
posted 08-08-2001 08:17 PM PT (US)

James Oscar® Winner	DRACO Malfoy is most definitely in the first novel. Perhaps Brian is referring to Draco's father, Lucius??
posted 08-08-2001 08:20 PM PT (US)

James Oscar® Winner	Brian, you posted what, half a second before I did? You're right, of course.
posted 08-08-2001 08:21 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	I'd say that Malfoy is a pretty big player in the first book. Sure, he's not the center of attention, but he causes enough trouble to demand some sort of theme, even if it's subtle. Bri, as for what you said above, I think that this score is going to be great, if not on-par with Hook (or moreso), but honestly, John Williams wrote the best scores of his career when he wrote Jaws, Raiders, CE3K, Superman, and Star Wars.
posted 08-08-2001 08:26 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	I can dream can't I? --Brian Gryffindor Seeker
posted 08-08-2001 08:46 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by James: *Prof. Quill? I'm disappointed in you, Marian...* Oooops. Quirrell, of course. quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: Malfoy is in the first book (see opening train sequence) but he dosen't play Qudditch tell book 2. Oooops. That of course is true. Whoever did those memory charms to me...STOP IT! [Message edited by Marian Schedenig on 08-09-2001]
posted 08-09-2001 06:14 AM PT (US)

Scott Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Jeron: but honestly, John Williams wrote the best scores of his career when he wrote Jaws, Raiders, CE3K, Superman, and Star Wars. That is very, very debatable. Certainly those are the most popular ones, but best? Hmmmm.... Scott
posted 08-09-2001 09:05 AM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	I said it before, I consider Phantom Menace just as good as any other Star Wars score. Hook is certainly one of his best works too, and it has MANY hints of the later Williams, including TPM. I expect Harry Potter being like Hook, but taken to the "next Williams level". NP: Close Encounters of the Third Kind (John Williams)
posted 08-09-2001 09:12 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Scott: That is very, very debatable. Certainly those are the most popular ones, but best? Hmmmm.... Harry Potter is a "big movie" like the ones I mentioned above. I'm not denying that Mr. Williams has written other awesome scores. In fact, allow me to correct my statement in adding The Fury, Dracula, Monsignor, Jaws 2, The River, Jane Eyre, and The Reivers to that list of outstanding music. Earthquake is even a personal favorite of mine, though (if I remember correctly), that's one of your least favorites. The fact is, John Williams has composed so many tremendously successful films w/ such incredible talent and versatility, that it's next to impossible to rank his music in terms of what's better. For anyone to do so, of course, would be completely subjective. I'm just as anxious as anyone to hear the score for Harry Potter - perhaps even more so than your average bear. As a fan of the books, I think there is an incredible on-screen potential, both in the arenas of visual realization and musical representation. Jeron [Message edited by Jeron on 08-09-2001]
posted 08-09-2001 09:54 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Marian Schedenig: Whoever did those memory charms to me...STOP IT! It was me, sorry, I was practicing, guess it backfired. I have the complete "Hedwig Theme" is anyone wants to hear it. Just get onto AIM and IM me. --Brian Gryffindor Seeker NP: The Mists of Avalon: Lee Holdridge PS: Jer, you forgot "Schindler's List" in some of Williams best scores. [Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 08-09-2001]
posted 08-09-2001 10:30 AM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: *Whoever did those memory charms to me...STOP IT!* It was me, sorry, I was practicing, guess it backfired. What...in front of all those muggles?? The ministry must be desperate. quote: I have the complete "Hedwig Theme" is anyone wants to hear it. Just get onto AIM and IM me. Any different from the mp3 you can download at JWFan.net? quote: PS: Jer, you forgot "Schindler's List" in some of Williams best scores. And Jurassic Park, Rosewood and The Fury, and the two Home Alones... NP: The Legend of 1900 (Ennio Morricone) [Message edited by Marian Schedenig on 08-09-2001]
posted 08-09-2001 10:42 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	Yeah, I got a notice from the ministry of magic a few minutes ago, I get to mow the Quidditch field when I get back to Hogwarts. As for the mp3, its the same on at Jwfan.com, and I am sure everyone has that, but I thought I would mention it. --Brian Gryffindor Seeker
posted 08-09-2001 11:04 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: PS: Jer, you forgot "Schindler's List" in some of Williams best scores. I didn't forget it, I just failed to mention it. Schindler's List is a great score too, but far from being one of my favorites. That's a prime example of the subjectivity I talked about earlier.
posted 08-09-2001 11:11 AM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: Yeah, I got a notice from the ministry of magic a few minutes ago, I get to mow the Quidditch field when I get back to Hogwarts. Why? After all, they FLY ABOVE the field... quote: As for the mp3, its the same on at Jwfan.com, and I am sure everyone has that, but I thought I would mention it. I didn't have it when you posted that, but I do have it now. GREAT STUFF! NP: Hedwig's Theme (John Williams)
posted 08-09-2001 12:06 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	Yes, I know they fly above the field, but the grass has to be cut so when Gryffindor win the Quidditch Cup, the students can rush the field and not be forced to "magic" away the weeds and 3 foot tall grass (You did see it last week right?) --Brian Gryffindor Seeker
posted 08-09-2001 03:21 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	Oh alright!
posted 08-09-2001 03:51 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	Now, back to the topic, William's score. Besides, I've got to go to Quidditch practice! --Brian Gryffindor Seeker
posted 08-09-2001 09:19 PM PT (US)

Vladimir Oscar® Winner	I just listened to the clip from Harry Potter and i have a very good feeling about this music!! It sounds like another Williams classic in the making.I know its only one clip but from what i heard it convinced me that it sounds like the Williams of old!!i can't wait!! I agree that there are sounds of Hook in this clip!! Matt
posted 08-09-2001 10:39 PM PT (US)

Aaron Collins Oscar® Winner	Well, let's hope there are not too many themes and I doubt there will be. This should be a great score! Aaron Collins
posted 08-09-2001 10:51 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	I think there will be two or three key themes in the film, I can't wait for this score, I just finished "Book 3" and I loved it, I am bringing "Book 4" with me to Italy next month (I am there for a week, visiting my sister) --Brian Gryffindor Seeker
posted 08-09-2001 11:56 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	I probably went over the board with my themes list up there. Considering Hook, I guess Williams might use lots of themes, but most of them related more to concepts than specific characters. So, Brian, you may be right with your idea that there'll be a common Slytherin theme (if you're not, I'll tell Dumbledore, and he'll have you polish the snitch ) Vladimir: I think it just sounds like a great Williams score in the tradition of Hook and Phantom Menace. Not even Hook was really the "Williams of old", but it's certainly one of his best. NP: Predator 2 (Alan Silvestri) - Thanks to the chicken-man
posted 08-10-2001 07:28 AM PT (US)

John Zimmer Oscar® Winner	Book four is one of the best on par with book one your in for a treak Kyp. Jz
posted 08-10-2001 07:44 AM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	The third is the best. The fourth starts out a bit too slowly, but it has the best climax. Truly terrifying. Let us know what you think, Mr. Seeker. Give me book #5 already, dammit! NP: Return to Oz (David Shire) - Thanks, Andy!
posted 08-10-2001 08:44 AM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	As for book 5, that is slated for 2002 I heard. I am egary awaiting Book 4, I loved the ending for Book 3. What can i say, I'm a nut --Brian Gryffindor Seeker
posted 08-10-2001 04:56 PM PT (US)

Marian Schedenig Oscar® Winner	As I said, #3 is my favourite. But nothing compares to, and nothing in the first three has prepared you for the climax of the fourth novel. NP: Lost Horizon: The Classic Film Music of Dimitri Tiomkin
posted 08-10-2001 05:29 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	I can't wait! --Brian Gryffindor Seeker
posted 08-10-2001 05:45 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Crono/Kyp: What can i say, I'm a nut Yeah, and who can you thank for making you a nut?
posted 08-10-2001 06:41 PM PT (US)

Crono/Kyp Oscar® Winner	Why, YOU OF COURSE! (and my friend Nick) ::Brian hugs Jeron:: --Brian Gryffindor Seeker
posted 08-10-2001 06:44 PM PT (US)

Dylan Oscar® Winner	I thought the appropriate place to ask this question would be on Crono's official Harry Potter discussion thread. Has anyone given a listen to the Harry Potter score tracks on the Internet Radio station www.classicfm.com?
posted 10-17-2001 07:02 PM PT (US)

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