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    Topic:   a comment on John William's A.I

     Vladimir
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    I just picked up A.I last week while i love the score especially tracks 1 and 10 I was amazed to hear on one the of the tracks a tecno beat from all people John Williams!! I love tecno scores but i wasn't expecting this from Williams.Don;t get me wrong its not a tecno score but he mixed it in good when he did use it!! I just hope he doesn't do this all the time in the future.But i am sure we don't have to worry about that!!! PS Can't wait to hear Harry Potter!!


    Matt

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    posted 07-25-2001 09:41 PM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    Glad to hear you enjoy the cd, Matt. It's a good listen. Like you, I can't wait for Harry Potter. That's the one Williams score I'm dying to hear.

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    posted 07-26-2001 01:42 PM PT (US)     

     Hasta
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    I didn't really "dig" that techno part in A.I., but I didn't mind it either. The score itself is the best to come out this year IMO.

    NP: Captain Corelli's Mandolin (Warbeck)... Sooooo slooowwww.... trying to staaay awaake...

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    posted 07-26-2001 01:51 PM PT (US)     

     dgoldwas
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Hasta:
    I didn't really "dig" that techno part in A.I., but I didn't mind it either. The score itself is the best to come out this year IMO.

    I don't think it was the best of the year, but it was certainly one of the better ones so far.

    And wasn't the techno part just about 15-seconds or so?

    Dan


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    posted 07-26-2001 02:02 PM PT (US)     

     Scott
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    Well, I for one agree with Hasta. AI is by far the best score of the year.

    Dan, if you don't know how long the techno part is, does that mean u don't have the score?

    While the techno part is barely 30 seconds in length, how it was used in the film is incredibly ingenius. Associating this part with the arrival of the motorcycle gang made the scene much more powerful. I'd like to expound on that, but got to go.


    Scott

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    posted 07-26-2001 02:44 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    I'm no fan of techno, but I was really looking forward to Williams version of it, expecting something a little along the lines of "The Football Game" from Sleepers. In the end, I was rather disappointed - there isn't much "behind" the short techno piece in A.I..

    Good score, but my favourite of this year so far is Final Fantasy. I'm extremely excited about Potter though!

    NP: Ralph Vaughan Williams: Fantasia on a theme by Thomas Tallis (London Philharmonic Orchestra, Sir Adrian Boult)

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    posted 07-26-2001 06:00 PM PT (US)     

     Jeron
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    Yeah, regarding the techno bit in A.I., I didn't find myself just blown away by it. Sure, it's surprising that Williams would employ it, and heck, it's cool that he did. But in the end, the techno portion sounds more like a dance club beat and it's a simple one at that. It's not multi-layered/textured. It doesn't make ya think. Nonetheless, it's a cool addition to an already good score.

    Jeron

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    posted 07-26-2001 07:13 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Yep.

    NP: Supergirl (Jerry Goldsmith)

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    posted 07-26-2001 07:51 PM PT (US)     

     Scott
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    Yeah, well, it's hard to write a 30 second dance/techno thingie and layer it with the most complex/textural layers one can employ, especially when the scene really doesn't require it. I mean, have we watched the movie? Have we seen the scene the piece was written for?

    I have seen the moive, and that 30 second part fits perfectly and makes the right statement, at least to me. This remimds me of an incident in Air Force one when Jerry Goldsmith talked to Joel McNeely telling him that he was working too hard, that certain scenes did not warrant the kind of orchestration and complex arrangements.

    I find it great that Williams continues to provide scores that are meant to fit the moving images and also survive as stand alone pieces.

    Dang, I don't know what I am saying anymore.


    Scott

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    posted 07-27-2001 02:30 PM PT (US)     

     JJH
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    quote:
    Dang, I don't know what I am saying anymore.


    caustic joke thought about, then discarded in favor of the following:


    We're with you, brother. Hang in there!

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    posted 07-27-2001 04:11 PM PT (US)     

     Howard L
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    "I find it great that Williams continues to provide scores that are meant to fit the moving images and also survive as stand alone pieces."

    And that, dear friends, is why Mr. Williams and the rest of the great ones are deserving of the label "great".

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    posted 07-27-2001 04:18 PM PT (US)     

     Quill
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    Dunno...I guess the techno is OK...much better than the silly scene it accompanied.

    I've noticed that Williams will be busy the next several months:
    Potter Sequel
    Memoirs of a Geisha
    Minority Report
    Star Wars Episode II
    I think there might be one other as well. I guess all the Williams fans around here have cause to celebrate!!

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    posted 07-27-2001 04:30 PM PT (US)     

     Howard L
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    The score is brilliant, very Herrmannesque the way Williams generously employed whole notes, sustained chords and harp and vibraphone. I swear it was almost like hearing the great Mr. H doing a Twilight Zone episode. There are so many film-with-music magical moments it's fruitless to talk about them in a short response. Like Herrmann, additionally, Williams composed a score filled with extended cues while not giving short shrift to scene transitions as well. Both types of cues got equal above-average treatment IMHO.

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    posted 08-01-2001 11:02 AM PT (US)     

     Shaun Rutherford
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    That damned Geisha film is never going to happen.

    Unless somebody else has heard something different.

    Shaun

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    posted 08-01-2001 01:16 PM PT (US)     
     

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