A cool design but does anyone else think that this ship looks too advanced for the pre-Original Series setting of the new series?

Since this is really about the advent of warp-drive exploration, I think it should have been one big warp nacell - kinda like a modern day nuclear submarine. (Apparently the producers DID go chat with Navy submariners about life aboard a sub, since this series is supposed to be "grittier"....)

Oh well.

If they already have that type of ship design for a 23rd Century Federation, then why have something more advanced and complex for a 22nd Century-era ship??

(Kinda like how George Lucas has to build all his stuff in Episodes 1,2 and 3 to look like they'll eventually get to the 1977 Star Wars ship designs!)

Nevertheless, I wouldn't expect the new ship to be a "real" predecessor of the "original" Enterprise, just as the interior won't be a predecessor to the 60's ship interiors.

And Dan, I suppose it WILL already have two warp nacells, perhaps comparable to those of the Enterprise-A (the original warp design is too dated I think). Check the Phoenix from First Contact.

I have it on good authority that the designer hired to do the new (read: old) Enterprise design was adament that this Enterprise should look like something between the Phoenix and the TOS Enterprise and submitted a number of designs in that mode. Eventually a highly-placed executive who shall remain nameless pointed to the Akira from First Contact and said "Ah, let's just make it this one." I wonder if the ILM guy who designed the Akira gets any money for creating the "first Enterprise." If only he'd have known.

I would also expect the transporters to fail a lot more often, giving early rise to the "McCoy Syndrome" (as in "Humans weren't made to have their atoms scattered across the galaxy by this infernal contraption...").

I guess we'll all find out soon enough.

Uniforms: They will be wearing jumpsuit-type garments, similar to what the NASA astronauts (and military pilots) wear. Jonathan Frakes was even heard to exclaim "Wow! I wish We had pockets in our uniforms!"

Phasers: No phasers. None on the ship or as personal weapons. They don't exist as of when the show starts.

Transporters: Nope. No transporters. Scott Bakula even said in last night's interview that there aren't any.

The new Ship: So what if it looks like a design seen for 10 seconds before? It does look cool. This one houses approx. 70 crew members.

And as for Quill's line about "Perhaps, this was a cost savings initiative. Simply modify one of the existing Akira models. Theses things run like a million bucks a pop...." this Enterprise is completely CGI. There are no models.

Kevin

(Oh my God! I've been exposed as a Trek fan! Back to the basement!)

Anyway... let's keep our fingers crossed that Jerry composes the theme. That'd make things perfect.

There ARE transporters, they are just in an early experimental stage and are seldom used.

Instead of phasers there are "phase pistols" which are introduced to the crew by the ship's armorer late in the pilot episode. These too are experimental weapons and their maker is secret.

They could have come up with something that looks much more true to the earlier ships and yet looks great.

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Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
Far too modern-looking. The saucer section is too low.

They could have come up with something that looks much more true to the earlier ships and yet looks great.

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Originally posted by justin boggan:
To anyone who thinks that TV guide picture is going to be the real ship- boy are you in for a real dissapointment. It will more than likely not even have a sauser section.

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As a Trek fan from the TOS days of the 1960's, when I watched it as a first-run series, I have no problems with the new design of the Enterprise. Sure it's not as "retro" as the TOS Constitution-class, but do we really want to go back to bad SFX, matte screens, etc?

Nothing personal to some people (on here and on the various newsgroups), but most of the whining I've heard is coming from people who weren't even born when the first three Trek movies were out.

It's as bad as the young kids who swear up and down that when Star Wars first came out in 1977 it was "Episode 4," and they won't listen to those of us who were alive and there at the theaters who know better.

I'm cautious about this new show (because of Berman and Co.) but I'm willing to give it a chance. I'm wondering more about the music.

Kevin

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Originally posted by Quill:
and so what if the saucer section is low...remember Reliant.

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Good point, but the Reliant had an altogether different saucer section mounting. To express it differently: The "new" old ship looks much too streamlined to be believeable - even more streamlined than the Enterprise D.

Of course going completely back to the original designs would be stupid for a modern TV series, but they could have tried to make the ship look SOMEWHAT plausible. As I said above, the Enterprise C looks perfectly fine (probably my favourite Enterprise design), and yet it's far more in keeping with the early Starfleet designs.

Generally though, the whole idea of placing this series before TOS is a bit of a problem. I understand that the ships will be operated mostly by levers and buttons - which is the way it should be when you think of TOS. But when mankind finally builds a spaceship of that size in reality, I'm sure it will have touchscreens etc. (or some other technologies we can't even imagine today).

NP: Jean Sibelius: Lemminkäinen-Suite (Royal Stockholm Philharmonic Orchestra, Paavo Järvi)

As a Trek fan from the TOS days of the 1960's, when I watched it as a first-run series, I have no problems with the new design of the Enterprise. Sure it's not as "retro" as the TOS Constitution-class, but do we really want to go back to bad SFX, matte screens, etc?

Nothing personal to some people (on here and on the various newsgroups), but most of the whining I've heard is coming from people who weren't even born when the first three Trek movies were out.

It's as bad as the young kids who swear up and down that when Star Wars first came out in 1977 it was "Episode 4," and they won't listen to those of us who were alive and there at the theaters who know better.
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Well, I was there in 66 when the original came out so I can speak with at least a little perspective. Noone wants antiquated SFX techniques but some logical design evolution would be in order. As Bond said, we'll all get used to the new design. I guess that I was hoping for a true departure from what we've seen already since that's the way the show is being touted. The fact that they've fallen back on the familiar for the main ship makes me just a little bit leery that they might not be so gutsy about other aspects of the show.