IRON WILL is pretty good - if you can get past the Williams licks....

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Originally posted by dgoldwas:

IRON WILL is pretty good - if you can get past the Williams licks....

Dan

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Well,yeah,i know that Williams was his mentor.Still;Iron Will is one hell of a score!

Jumping back a second to your first post, you said you were disappointed in the action music in PRIMAL FEAR. Why is that? (Have you seen the film? It has VERY little action....)

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Originally posted by dgoldwas:
Kyriacos,

Jumping back a second to your first post, you said you were disappointed in the action music in PRIMAL FEAR. Why is that? (Have you seen the film? It has VERY little action....)

Dan

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Yes,you are right Dan.Actually,track 6 is the ONLY action music.It is,however,as i said earlier very Trevor Rabin style.That's why i got so angry about it.Because i know that Howard's action music is far superior than Rabin's pointless tecno drums.Howard should have composed something of a much higher quality.He IS qualified for that.About the rest of the score:BORING.I know that the music is merely used in order to create that cold court room atmosphere(to be completely honest with you,i haven't seen the film);in that case,it shouldn't have been released in the first place.It just doesn't work on CD so well.

And this is a classic example of a score that works well in the film not working well on CD.

But if it wasn't released on CD, I'm sure we'd hear all sorts of complaining about the lack of a release..... so.......

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Originally posted by dgoldwas:

But if it wasn't released on CD, I'm sure we'd hear all sorts of complaining about the lack of a release..... so.......

Dan

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Yes,you are also right about that Dan.I was the stupid one though....I had the chance of choosing between Primal Fear and Aladdin.And i fell right into the trap.I was so amazed by Howard's quality work in Waterworld,that i actually thought Primal Fear would be up to those standards.I guess i will have to live with this stupid mistake...

stupid me!
stupid me!
stupid me!

But do get ALADDIN - it's a fun Disney soundtrack.

....go get Aladdin of course!!

stay away from A Perfect Murder.

dave

I wish people would get bored. Then maybe these critics, who can't express anything other then dislike, would leave. That would only leave the people that truly love film music.

I do understand that people like this won't leave though. It is the only place they feel they can safely express themselves. Hiding behind their computers, typing away. Pretending they know more then the people who actually compose and work with film music.

As for the 'fairy tail' comment. I suppose you are trying to imply I want to live in some perfect world. But if you were to pay attention to fairy tails they are anything but perfect. You should rewatch or read, Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Hansel and Grettel, etc. They are all about loss, death, isolation, greed, jealously, etc. Just a thought.

Dave

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Originally posted by Dave:
Hasta,

I wish people would get bored. Then maybe these critics, who can't express anything other then dislike, would leave. That would only leave the people that truly love film music.

I do understand that people like this won't leave though. It is the only place they feel they can safely express themselves. Hiding behind their computers, typing away. Pretending they know more then the people who actually compose and work with film music.

Dave

NP - The Mission

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About the second paragraph:
I'm not pretending about anything.Nor do i want to feel like i'm the wise guy.
I'm just expressing my opinion.I think i can do that Dave.I didn't like that score.And i didn't post this topic just for fun.It's just that i was expecting much more by Howard,because i know that he is a great composer.I'm not bashing the composer(i don't find it pleasant to bash composers anyway)-i'm just stating my opinion.

Personally, I'm grateful there are reviews out there. I can read them, judge them the way I think they relate to my own taste, and then decide if I should try a CD/film/whatever or not.

What about politics? Should people who aren't politics themselves never criticize a government if they think something is wrong?

I don't read reviews. Of movies or scores. It doesnt matter to me if some fat man in a theater likes or dislikes a movie. I could care less if Entertainment Weekly hates a score release. What matters is if I like it. I see the movie. I listen to the music. I make a decision on if I want to purchase the CD or not. Its just that simple.

If you can't see the difference between movie scores and the government please don't make anymore descriptive analogies. There is a big difference in lets say..human rights violations and complaining about someone behind their back on a internet website.

dave

NP - Young Guns 2

Of course film music and governments are two entirely different things, but the point is the same: You CAN judge something even if you couldn't do it better yourself. You can recognize flaws in a musical work if you know enough about music (or simply know enough music), even if you couldn't write it yourself.

And of course most reviews shouldn't be taken literally. You have to filter the information out of them which YOU need - which is easier if you know the general taste of the reviewer. Without reviews, there would be so many films and scores I might be interested in, that I wouldn't know where to start. And yet, I wouldn't have some great CDs I bought just because I read so many great things about them.