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    Topic:   You want Phantom Menace DVD? Here, TAKE yaw Phantom Menace DVD (official)

     Dan Brecher
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    Posting this in here since it is the most read form, I usualy put up DVD blurb over in movies, but this should shut some people up. StarWars.com Announcement.

    Dan (UK)

    [Message edited by Dan Brecher on 06-19-2001]

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    posted 06-19-2001 05:41 AM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    Finally! Iso score and DTS tracks would have been nice, but if the other films get DVD releases similar to this one (whenever that will be), I think I'll be satisfied.

    NP: Spaceballs (John Morris)

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    posted 06-19-2001 06:10 AM PT (US)     

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    An iso score would've been overkill with all the releases of it at this point- but it would be a great extra, on the other hand. Of course, a DTS copy will probably get released along with Episode II in 2004 this way, and all will be wacky again.

    In the past, there have been posts bashing the marketing ploys with which ancillary work on Star Wars occurs- especially with regard to the score releases of Episode I.
    I don't mind it- but it is predictable somewhat. Rumors abounded where the DVD releases are concerned- but I think I know where this is going- and I'm sure you guys have already figures this out:

    Lucas approves a DVD on Episode I for release on October 16th roughly 1-4 months before a teaser for II is released- the intention being to keep Star Wars interest up- which is almost unnecessary since there are people who live, breathe, and eat Star Wars and have done so since May 1977.

    It all makes sense, I guess- I'm just glad it'll be available. The nice thing is, opened or not, Star Wars products make great collectables.

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    posted 06-19-2001 06:26 AM PT (US)     

     Kevin
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    I know I'm gonna get slammed for this, but here goes...

    I don't care.

    With titles like Citizen Kane, The Godfather, and ST:TMP coming out, who wants a bad movie on DVD? Certainly not me.

    If I were to receive it as a gift, I would keep it. But I'm not paying for it. It's not even on my "must have" list of DVD's.

    Lucasfilm can keep it. Besides, he'll overprice the thing.

    Kevin

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    posted 06-19-2001 07:43 AM PT (US)     

     Dan Brecher
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    Kevin,

    Oh I think enough people care to make this thing sell like crazy, but god yes, That Godfather set is simply gorgeous. With that and a 2 disc snow white out on Oct 9th, then TPM the following Tuesday, for most, October will be expensive.

    Try not to turn this into a TPM bashing thread though.

    Dan (UK)

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    posted 06-19-2001 07:49 AM PT (US)     

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    Kevin, no bashing will you get from me- you don't need me to tell you your rights to your opinions- but it's never been explained to my satisfaction bhy someone considers Episode I was such a bad movie. I know you can't speak for anyone else, but I am interested in why you estimate Star Wars Episode I as being a bad film. I am aware we have different criterion, and the only reason I ask is because recently, somone I know has said the same thing but cannot give me a compelling reason why.

    I look forward to your replies, but just for point of information, this person's predominant argument is that Episode I "was no Empire Strikes Back". Here's my problem- As much as I appreciate what Empire did for the series from a story point of view, I can't separate it. I look at Star Wars as a whole. As such, I don't think it started badly. I am hoping Episode II will clear things up. I also think this person I know is sorely disappointed because for fiteen years, Star Wars was peripherally everything to him. When you do that, it does ruin your attraction to anything new within that framework- that's happened to me with Batman and with Star Trek.

    So your response (and please don't feel it is demanded or that it wont be met with an open mind, I'm just interested in another opinion), while it may not convince me Episode I was a bad movie, will hopefully help fill in the gaps in something I guess I don't yet understand from a different perspective.

    I do agree that ST:TMP will be a great DVD release, but it is the only thing right now that is keeping Star Trek alive for me. I'm not a "Trekkie" by any stretch of the imagination, I'm more of a "Closet Trekkie", and I only "Flame" when a movie is released.

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    posted 06-19-2001 07:54 AM PT (US)     

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    Yeah!
    Nice.. first ever Star Wars DVD.. should be interesting.. especialy all the commentaries. As long as they aren't just culled from a bunch of earlier interviews like the one on T2: Ultimate Edition.

    I think Lucas is the master at making money... Like The Beatles with the "#1s" and "Yellow Submarine" and the soon to be released "Hard Days Night" he is giving us a taste... one movie at a time.

    NP - Back To The Future Part III - End Titles (Alan Silvestri) ****/***** Love this score, especialy the Western flavor.

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    posted 06-19-2001 09:24 AM PT (US)     

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    It's about damn time!!!!!

    First of all if Lucas wants to make more money then more power to him. Secondly I think too many people got caught up in all the hype surrounding TPM. With the exception of TESB the other three films, while fun and entertaining, aren't exactly masterpieces of acting and directing. TPM was a fun and entertaining film, but then what did you expect after 15 years? I mean Lucas has only directed 3 other films and it was 22 years since his last effort.

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    posted 06-19-2001 09:54 AM PT (US)     

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    Aaron,

    I believe the commentary IS interview style and not live as most are, however in this situation I feel it's a good thing. A live audio commentary usualy takes double the time to record then the final edit we end up hearing. With a number of people contributing to this track, it is likely they were all recorded seperately with their comments edited together, this would allow for greater depth of discussion and not take up much of their time while doing Ep2 stuff.

    Dan (UK)

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    posted 06-19-2001 10:29 AM PT (US)     

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    Hi,

    I think "Phantom" was a good film. I gave it ***1/2 out of *****. I liked a lot of the characters, I really never cared too much for Jar Jar. I thought Binks was a bit too silly and would've prefered him to be "serious/a little clumsy" rather than just "goofy/clumsy" and sometimes serious but oh well. The score by Williams I gave *****, it's a fine score in my opinion. I'm quite excited for the DVD release and all of the extras.
    Dylan

    NP- The Lost World by Williams (*** out of *****: too much action and mayhem and not enough magic. But still a good score)

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    posted 06-19-2001 10:39 AM PT (US)     

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    The DVD even includes the music video. Neato.

    But I'm with Kevin, I don't give a hoot. I'd much rather buy The Black Hole.

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    posted 06-19-2001 11:17 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Besides, he'll overprice the thing.

    They updated with prices. It's $29.98...

    Dan (UK)

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    posted 06-19-2001 11:53 AM PT (US)     

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    $29.95 is totally reasonable. Although the usual suspects (Circuit City, Best Buy) will have it on sale the first week. So we can probably pick it up for $22 - 24.00.

    I for one can't wait. I'm looking forward to seeing the deleted footage. Especially the pod race footage, becuase it's a great sequence. Great effects and sound. And hopefully Episode IV won't be too far behind.

    I'd love to see him release A New Hope with the original and Special Edition, both on the same disc.

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    posted 06-19-2001 12:55 PM PT (US)     

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    I like my VHS

    --Bri

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    posted 06-19-2001 01:07 PM PT (US)     

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    I don't care what you say... if you cared enough to post here, you will not be able to resist this DVD forever.

    Quit kidding yourselves. It wasn't a great movie... hell, it was hardly much good... but we are all going to buy it.

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    posted 06-19-2001 03:22 PM PT (US)     

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    I think that if this had been anything but a Star Wars movie opinions wouldn't be quite so low. If you compare it to most of the other sci-fi offerings out there...it's still near the top of the heap.

    Not great, but still enjoyable. And YES...finally on DVD. Calm down...back to work...

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    posted 06-19-2001 03:42 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Crono/Kyp:
    I like my VHS

    There's so much visual detail in TPM, I'm not even sure that DVD resolution can do it real justice.

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    posted 06-19-2001 04:27 PM PT (US)     

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    Digital Bits just ran a GREAT little interview with Lucasfilm's VP of Marketing (Jim Ward) which goes into a little bit more detail on the release, it's commentary, why some things are not there (DTS, iso score) and so on. Read it here

    If you're wondering what the 7 deleted scenes are, over at DVD in Detail the other week when we posted up a report on the DVD specs from an Italian website (which today in comparison to the official announcement turned out to be completely correct) it stated the scenes are as follows:

    1) Complete podrace starting grid sequence
    2) Complete podrace 2nd lap sequence
    3) waterfall sequence
    4) aereotaxi sequence (Coruscant)
    5) sunrise before the podrace
    6) Anakin and Greedo
    7) Farewell to Jira

    Dan (again)

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    posted 06-19-2001 05:14 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
    Finally! Iso score and DTS tracks would have been nice, but if the other films get DVD releases similar to this one (whenever that will be), I think I'll be satisfied.

    [b]NP: Spaceballs (John Morris)[/B]


    DTS is an awesome format for surround. It emphisizes bass while creating a real effect for the movie. However, a DTS isolated score would be bad. DTS and Dolby Digital are 2 way different formats, with Dolby, you can down mix and take a 5.1 or 6.1 format and edit it down to 2.0. That way you wont lose a single instrument. However, the disadvantage to DTS is, it cannot be down mixed. If you try removing all other speakers except the front ones, you would lose all instruments that were in the rear and center channels. There's my 2 cents. Kinda odd coming from a 15 year old, but ya... I am into this stuff.

    Clayton

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    posted 06-19-2001 05:54 PM PT (US)     

     Marian Schedenig
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    I don't know any software tools that could directly decode the DTS data into a stereo/Dolby Surround WAV file for burning anyway, so I certainly wouldn't want a DTS iso score (PCM would be great though...). I was merely talking about one DTS "normal" audio track and one iso score track.

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    posted 06-19-2001 06:11 PM PT (US)     

     Dan Brecher
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    Usualy the differences you will hear on DTS will be down to DTS tracks on most DVDs (for some damn reason) coming from alternate 6 track masters, often deliberately superior ones at that (Pvt Ryan DTS DVD for example). This kind of confuses many in thinking it's the DTS that is truly wowing them, when in actuality it is superior source material.

    I'm not the big fan of DTS in the home I once was. After upgrading the home theater to high end seperates it became relatively clear that when you have components that do Dolby Digital well, the differences (when comparing DD and DTS sourced from the same 6 track master) are minimal.

    I still like DTS theatrical for offfering a better source for audio off of the CDs that is not prone to damage as Dolby Digital is being encoded into a film's 35mm print. That said, back to home DTS, I look forward to experimenting with the 96khz/24bit coding on DVD movie releases later in the year.

    Doesn't bother me in the slightest TPM has no DTS track, Lucasfilm's ties with Dolby in the creation of THX EX are far to strong to have ever seen that happen.

    As an owner of the Phantom Menace laserdisc import from Japan, I can tell you it is the finest audio presentation the home you will ever hear...perhaps until Episode II anyway.

    Dan (again)


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    posted 06-19-2001 06:16 PM PT (US)     

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    Kevin I agree, who wants this POS put to DVD? Well obviously a lot of people, but I could give a rats ass. One of the most disappointing movies in cinema history. You said ST: TMP, though, and I don't know many people that claim that to be a "good" movie.


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    posted 06-19-2001 07:00 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Dan Brecher:
    As an owner of the Phantom Menace laserdisc import from Japan, I can tell you it is the finest audio presentation the home you will ever hear...

    I'd better start of a way to get rid of my neighbours, then.

    NP: On the Beach (Christopher Gordon)

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    posted 06-19-2001 07:16 PM PT (US)     

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    for my money and my experience, the most disappointing films for me have been The Thin Red Line, and Pearl Harbor.

    NP -- Frequency, Michael Kamen; straight off the DVD iso.

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    posted 06-19-2001 07:19 PM PT (US)     

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    I feel like the only one who doesn't have a DVD player. My laptop has a DVD-ROM, but watching movies on it is far from engaging.

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    posted 06-19-2001 07:55 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by jonathan_little:
    My laptop has a DVD-ROM, but watching movies on it is far from engaging.

    Doesn't it have a TV-Out connector? I'm under the impression that most laptops with DVD-ROM drives do, so you could plug it to your TV and enjoy DVDs.

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    posted 06-19-2001 08:24 PM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by JJH:
    for my money and my experience, the most disappointing films for me have been [b]The Thin Red Line, and Pearl Harbor.

    NP -- Frequency, Michael Kamen; straight off the DVD iso. [/B]


    You can throw Tomb Raider onto that list as well.

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    posted 06-19-2001 08:43 PM PT (US)     

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    Marian,

    Crank it up LOUD. Some people are going to be truly shocked upon running it in 5,1 in their home for the first time.

    Dan (UK)

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    posted 06-20-2001 05:23 AM PT (US)     

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    I have the Titanic soundtrack in DTS. It's EXTREMELY well mastered! You all should buy even though it's like just the best of James Horner.

    Clayton

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    posted 06-20-2001 09:35 AM PT (US)     

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    I just reread the official posting about this DVD and I have to say... even though TPM was my least favorite Star Wars film (so far), the gigantic amount of supplements they are providing here is well worth the price of the disc.

    Frankly, I can't wait!

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    posted 06-20-2001 10:10 AM PT (US)     

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    JJH,

    Was your reply pointed at me? Why in the world would Pearl Harbor be one of the most disappointing films you've ever seen (considering everybody involved)? I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not, ye bastard.

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    posted 06-20-2001 10:22 AM PT (US)     

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    Sorry about coming late into this thread, but it's about time they released this. I've seen the movie 2 times, and that was in the theaters. I didn't like it as much as the original films, but it was fairly entertaining. I've held out on purchasing the VHS because I knew an announcement like this would creep up eventually. I guess the wait was worth it...

    Jeron

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    posted 06-20-2001 10:50 AM PT (US)     

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    quote:
    Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
    Doesn't it have a TV-Out connector? I'm under the impression that most laptops with DVD-ROM drives do, so you could plug it to your TV and enjoy DVDs.

    Unfortunately not. I just need to shell out $400 for a good player.

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    posted 06-20-2001 10:54 AM PT (US)     

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    I think it's cool that Lucas is actually putting any of them out but I agree with some of the others that this isn't exactly the Star Wars installment I would most like to see as the franchise's premiere disc.

    Fortunately, I still have my Sony LD player and the Star Wars Special Edition laserdisc box. The films looks flawless and with the exception of having to flip 'em (my player is pre-flip unfortunately!), they will definitely hold me over until the DVDs finally come out.

    But hey, something is almost always better than nothing so I'm still pleased that the releases are moving forward (I too am more anxious for the Godfather titles anyway).

    Joey

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    posted 06-20-2001 11:11 AM PT (US)     

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    Well, the rumor I've heard is that we'll see Star Wars Oct. 2002, Empire 2003, Jedi 2004. Again, that's a rumor, so take it as you will. If it is true, I'll wait. I'd love to see 'em sooner, but it'll be worth it. Lucas has said the reason for not releasing them is becuase he doesn't want to release them until they have everything packed on them he'd like and he can supervise the process. So that's good. That should mean when they do come out that they'll be well worth the wait.

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    posted 06-21-2001 08:12 AM PT (US)     

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    Seb, you forgot the DVDs of Eps II and III. It's all rumour and speculation on the others indeed, yes Lucasfilm are sprouting the "no current plans at this time" but take into account they said the same bs whilst they've been secretly working on Phantom Menace DVD for the past 18 months along with the fact the back of the Ep1 DVD box invites you to "Start your Star Wars DVD Collection" it'd be pretty shocking if this were it. The allegeded plans for the releases are:

    Fall 2002 -- Episode IV A New Hope
    Fall 2003 -- Episode II
    Fall 2004 -- Episode V The Empire Strikes Back
    Fall 2005 -- Episode VI Return of the Jedi
    Fall 2006 -- Episode III

    Bear in mind sales of Phantom this October will dictate the fate of the others, but the above release schedule is apparently not unlikely given the time they put into doing Episode 1 on DVD.

    On a different note, head on over to DVD in Detail. We have a little article on the release linking to a number of interviews at other sites with Lucasfilm's VP of Marketing Jim Ward. We have that along with additional supplement listings not mentioned in the press release and we have a pic of the back of the box. Read it all here

    Dan (UK)

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