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 Alan-Silvestri.com
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I'm sure a lot of you will be glad to hear that The Mummy Returns DVD will probably feature an isolated score!

Alan Silvestri himself said in an interview (in the French film music magazine "Dreams to Dreams") that he thought Stephen Sommers mentioned something about an isolated score on DVD. So it isn't a 100% sure, but an isolated score of Goldsmith's The Mummy was also released on DVD, so it isn't very unlikely one will be released of TMR.

The isolated score will contain a lot of great unreleased music that was recorded in LA (and orchestrated by William Ross). Let's hope it will happen!

Emile http://www.alan-silvestri.com

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posted 06-14-2001 02:13 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Despite how promising these predictions seem, keep in mind that these are extremely preliminary. The film is still in theatres!

I hope they don't pull that "hidden feature" crap again. The isolated score is only worthwhile if you can listen to it coupled with the picture without SFX.

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posted 06-14-2001 02:45 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Actually, given Universal's latest policy of "no isolated scores", I doubt that they'll have one on the DVD, unless they decide to make an exception.

So don't hold your breath - but hope for it!

Dan

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posted 06-14-2001 02:46 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Where did that come from Dan?

I hope it has one! Then I'd really buy the disc.
--Brian

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posted 06-14-2001 03:59 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Universal got pissed because we've all booted the iso score on THE MUMMY...even though EVERYONE and their second cousin has the Decca CD, and it makes for a MUCH better listen than that Iso track.

If Univ. didn't want it booted, they should have put the iso under the film. Is there any value in watching the Languages menu for 92mins. and hearing the score? Of course not! That's an invitation to boot it!
I wish it was isolated on the film...would have loved to see how the images and score work w/out sound efx.

~Sean

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posted 06-14-2001 04:05 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Ah, well, I would hope they would change that, besides, its their fault.

--Brian

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posted 06-14-2001 05:31 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Yes, but you're forgetting that they're stupid.

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posted 06-14-2001 06:23 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Considering that Universal got rid of the isolated score on the most recent edition of the Mummy on dvd, I think its safe to say there will not be one on any future disks sadly:-(

BobaMike

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posted 06-14-2001 06:35 PM PT (US)    ip  

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And my question is...

They're missing out on what?, because people have booted the score. As Sean said, everyone has the Decca cd, so it's not like they've missed out on any money.

I guess they just don't want anyone to profit from it, that might be selling it I guess. GO TRADING!

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posted 06-15-2001 07:56 AM PT (US)    ip  

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see my comment above

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posted 06-15-2001 07:59 AM PT (US)    ip  

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dgoldwas:
Actually, given Universal's latest policy of "no isolated scores", I doubt that they'll have one on the DVD, unless they decide to make an exception.
[QUOTE]

Thanks for the info Dan. This will indeed reduce the chance. Do you know the exact reason why Universal made this 'brilliant' decision?
Do you also know when exactly they made this decision official? (i.e. before or after Alan talked to Sommers during post-production in March/May).

This is very bad news because this could mean that the isolated scores from Back to the Future Part I and III are history :-(

Anyway, I would rather see Decca release a second audio CD (like with Gladiator, Braveheart etc.) And I'm sure I am not the only one...

Emile
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posted 06-15-2001 08:43 AM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Do you know the exact reason why Universal made this 'brilliant' decision?

I think basically the same reason Fox decided not to do any more, because people are making copies and selling them for their own profit. Iso scores, great for us, dangerous for the studios.

Dan (UK)
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posted 06-15-2001 12:48 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Maybe an interesting point: Doesn't the same problem apply to regular CD releases? Those can also be bootlegged on CD-R (and ARE also bootlegged).
I wonder if their decision is really based on hard numbers/facts or just vague convictions of some executives...

Emile www.alan-silvestri.com

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posted 06-15-2001 02:00 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Alan-Silvestri.com has a point.

Shaun

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posted 06-15-2001 07:00 PM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Originally posted by Alan-Silvestri.com:

Anyway, I would rather see Decca release a second audio CD (like with Gladiator, Braveheart etc.) And I'm sure I am not the only one...


Eek, but it might have dialouge, besides, the Decca release we have is for the most complete, with the exception of the last 20 minutes that was recorded in LA.

Yes basicly the last 20 minutes of the film were done in LA.

--Brian

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posted 06-16-2001 12:07 AM PT (US)    ip  

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quote:
Maybe an interesting point: Doesn't the same problem apply to regular CD releases? Those can also be bootlegged on CD-R (and ARE also bootlegged).
I wonder if their decision is really based on hard numbers/facts or just vague convictions of some executives...

Oh the studios do their research alright. The biggest preassure of all on the removal of such a supplement stems from the legal departments. I mentioned Fox earlier, when I went to Fox last November for the X-Men DVD presentation I asked Peter Staddon (the senior VP od marketing) about iso scores and he says it really kicks up a fuss with the legal people. He once had someone storm into his office and slap a CDR down on his desk, a recording of (I think) the iso score from Patton DVD, so much of the time it wouldn't so much seem that they dont want to do iso scores, but simply rather a case in that they cant.

In the score collection world, CDRs these days are usualy of promos or indeed iso scores, CDRs made of released CDs are not often sold for profit amongst collectors as the majority of the fans will go buy the CD.

The big problem is, say someone bough Mummy Returns on Oct 2nd (when the dvd is out) and it did have an iso score, and they had not seen the movie and loved the score and realised they didn't have to buy it because they can CDR it off the DVD, it's this the studios dont like the idea of. If everyone had a copy of the CD, great fine, but they dont, and especially since they could make an expanded complete score bettering the slections of music found on the CD they would never look back and buy the official release.

Sales of the official CD release play a fairly big hand in deciding upon the inclusion of an isolated score and it's a tricky choice to make because, if a score CD is selling bad, do you isolate it on a DVD possibly damaging CD sales even more, or it the CD is selling well, do you add an iso score on the DVD, possibly damaging and lowering the already great sales.

We can rant, but they really do have a fair few things to think over and work out in deciding to do such a supplement, and it's worth giving them a break now and again in knowing numerous problems that can come around.

Dan (UK)
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posted 06-16-2001 06:04 AM PT (US)    ip  

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Ok peeps, the press release for the Mummy Returns DVD came out today (for Oct 2nd), there is no isolated score listed among the supplements. So there ya go...

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Dan (UK)

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posted 06-18-2001 02:04 PM PT (US)    ip  

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Yep, it looks like it's not going to happen :-(

Well, a bootleg will probably appear that will 'hit' Univer$al/Decca financially even harder then... And in my opinion well deserved. They should release it officially to fight bootlegging. It's as simple as that.

Emile www.alan-silvestri.com

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posted 06-18-2001 02:17 PM PT (US)    ip  

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First off: Long time, no post!

Second thing:

Such a pity. Iso scores really sway me for some releases on DVD. If there is no iso score I probably won't buy the DVD *UNLESS* I enjoyed the film when I saw it at the cinema. Iso scores are a great feature, whichs allows you to hear the score with out the FX going on plus the film version may be different than what was released on the score cd.

Third thing: Slightly OT. I'm looking forward to the DVD of the 1996 DOCTOR WHO TV Movie with the John Debney score. It will be featuring his brilliant score as an Isolated Score track. At least the BBC are showing some sense with Iso Scores with their Doctor Who release as just about every release so far has had an Iso Score on them.

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posted 06-18-2001 10:41 PM PT (US)    ip  

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You can always count on the British (well, for isolated scores at least).

There was a Dr. Who DVD released in Hong Kong, but it was quickly snapped up by those crazy Whovians. The last one on eBay on Mar-18-00 sold for $322.00.

I guess the last laugh is on that bidder

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posted 06-19-2001 08:29 AM PT (US)    ip  

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I don't blame Universal, I blame the people that made bootlegs of the music and then sold copies on ebay. That is lame.

[Message edited by Taylor on 06-19-2001]

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posted 06-19-2001 07:17 PM PT (US)    ip  

 
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