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Topic: Alien Resurrection
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Kyriacos S
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I just bought Alien Resurrection(John Frizzell)and i believe it's great.What do you guys think about it??? 
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posted 06-10-2001 01:06 PM PT (US) ip
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Jeron
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I've always found Frizzell's score to be highly enjoyable. It pays tribute to Jerry's score in a few places and still manages to stay original. The action sequences are a lot of fun, the themes are memorable (especially the opening one), and of course, the highlight cue, "They Swim" is absolutely stellar.Overall, it's definitely a fun listen if you're into thematic horror film music. Thanks for posting, Kyriacos - a lot of folks haven't discovered this one (and need to!). Jeron
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posted 06-10-2001 01:45 PM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig
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Most people don't seem to like it (the movie, too), but from what I heard in the film, I really liked the score. I don't have it on CD, but I'll pick it up when I come across it....and just to shock you a bit, Kyriacos, I'm a great fan of Goldenthal's Alien³ score.  NP: Bless the Child (Christopher Young) [Message edited by Marian Schedenig on 06-10-2001]
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posted 06-10-2001 02:13 PM PT (US) ip
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Hard Target
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I've grown to like this score very much after I first bought that rather inspid RCA release which does the score no justice. Then I got the complete boot which runs 90 minutes and in it's entirity it's awesome. There's a ton of subtile and hard action music missing from the RCA album which only has about 38-40 minutes worth of Frizzell's score and it's not counting that Opera piece. It's a decent album, but you're missing the better music though in my opinion. I'd go after the complete score if I were you guys and play it big and loud, you'll love it.
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posted 06-10-2001 09:12 PM PT (US) ip
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Kyriacos S
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Hard Target:
I've grown to like this score very much after I first bought that rather inspid RCA release which does the score no justice. Then I got the complete boot which runs 90 minutes and in it's entirity it's awesome. There's a ton of subtile and hard action music missing from the RCA album which only has about 38-40 minutes worth of Frizzell's score and it's not counting that Opera piece. It's a decent album, but you're missing the better music though in my opinion. <HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>Unfortunately,i was lucky enough to find A copy of that rather inspid RCA release,Hard Target...(you see as i mentioned earlier our CD stores s*** here big time!!...)
Still,highly enjoyable,though from what you are saying i ain't heard nothin' yet!.
Maybe i will take advantage of my visit to Austin Texas,this summer;i heard they got some really good CD stores there. NP:Bach:Prelude and Fugue in Bflat major.-Kyriacos S
[Message edited by Kyriacos S on 06-11-2001]
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posted 06-10-2001 10:04 PM PT (US) ip
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Kyriacos S
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Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
...and just to shock you a bit, Kyriacos, I'm a great fan of Goldenthal's Alien³ score.
Marian,
My friend,
ARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
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posted 06-10-2001 10:07 PM PT (US) ip
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Kyriacos S
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size=1 face=arial>quote:</font><HR size=1>Originally posted by Jeron:
Thanks for posting, Kyriacos - a lot of folks haven't discovered this one (and need to!). Jeron<HR size=1></BLOCKQUOTE>
Thanks for thanking me Jeron!!!
[Message edited by Kyriacos S on 06-10-2001]
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posted 06-10-2001 10:25 PM PT (US) ip
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Kyriacos S
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Originally posted by Jeron:
I've always found Frizzell's score to be highly enjoyable. It pays tribute to Jerry's score in a few places and still manages to stay original. The action sequences are a lot of fun, the themes are memorable (especially the opening one), and of course, the highlight cue, "They Swim" is absolutely stellarJeron
Another favorite: track7 -The Aliens escape.The Alien theme in the middle part is SUCH a terrifying experience.... 
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posted 06-10-2001 10:32 PM PT (US) ip
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DaveK
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Does anyone have a track listing for the complete score?
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posted 06-11-2001 06:17 AM PT (US) ip
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André Lux
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Alien Ressurection sucks big time: both movie and score. But works as an involuntary comedy - if you are in the right mood.Alien³ was poor too, but at least Goldenthal's superior score made worth watching the movie.
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posted 06-11-2001 10:42 AM PT (US) ip
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Hard Target
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I can't believe you said that Andre. Alien 3 is definetly the most underrated movie in the series and with good reason. And you have to remember that the version that was released isn't what David Fincher wanted. Fox completely reedited and reshot a ton of scenes and Fincher was really upset that they did that because from what I've read his version makes a heck of alotta sense then what appeared on screen. I'd check the moviedatabase, Andre and see what i'm talking about because it's a damn good movie. Here's the track listings for the complete Alien Resurrection: Disc I
Main Title (original version)
Ripley Reborn
Main Title (Film version)
Post-Op
Quite A Grip
Her Majesty
The Prophecy
The Knife
Docking the Betty
Face Huggers
A Little One-On-One
After Hours On Deck
Call Finds Ripley
The Sacrifice-Aliens Escape
The Trap
Evacuation
Ripley's Rescue
Wayward Weaponry
Elgyn Killed
The Appearance of Ripley
Sticking Together Disc II
Santa Claus In A Wheelchair
Where the Meat Is
Small Talk
Ripley Meets Her Clones
Kill Me
A Waste of Ammo
What's Inside Purvis?
No Backstroke
They Swim (long version)
The Auton
The Chapel
The Clone and the Robot
The Abduction
Purvis Eurpts
The Newborn
100 Yard Dash
Ripley Returns
Baby on Board
The Battle With the Newborn
I'm A Stranger Here Myself
I'm A Stranger Here Myself (alternate)
Ripley's Theme
End Titles
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posted 06-11-2001 11:10 AM PT (US) ip
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André Lux
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Originally posted by Hard Target:
I can't believe you said that Andre. Alien 3 is definetly the most underrated movie in the series and with good reason. And you have to remember that the version that was released isn't what David Fincher wanted. Fox completely reedited and reshot a ton of scenes and Fincher was really upset that they did that because from what I've read his version makes a heck of alotta sense then what appeared on screen. I'd check the moviedatabase, Andre and see what i'm talking about because it's a damn good movie.
Maybe the diretor's version of Alien³ could be great, but since I haven't seem it I can only comment on the regular release, which is by far ludicrous. A movie about a bunch of bald-heads runing around preaching some idiotic religious mumbo-jumbo, while a CGI chicken-like Alien chase them is not the kind of movie I consider great... Sorry. But the next sequel was even worst!
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posted 06-11-2001 11:27 AM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig
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Originally posted by Hard Target:
Alien 3 is definetly the most underrated movie in the series
Indeed. For me, it ranks right up there with the first installment - and that's the version that was released. I'd love to see Fincher's original cut (and seeing how luxurious the recent Fincher DVD releases were, perhaps we might see it someday?)
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posted 06-11-2001 11:50 AM PT (US) ip
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Kyriacos S
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Originally posted by Hard Target:
[BHere's the track listings for the complete Alien Resurrection: Disc I
Main Title (original version)
Ripley Reborn
Main Title (Film version)
Post-Op
Quite A Grip
Her Majesty
The Prophecy
The Knife
Docking the Betty
Face Huggers
A Little One-On-One
After Hours On Deck
Call Finds Ripley
The Sacrifice-Aliens Escape
The Trap
Evacuation
Ripley's Rescue
Wayward Weaponry
Elgyn Killed
The Appearance of Ripley
Sticking Together Disc II
Santa Claus In A Wheelchair
Where the Meat Is
Small Talk
Ripley Meets Her Clones
Kill Me
A Waste of Ammo
What's Inside Purvis?
No Backstroke
They Swim (long version)
The Auton
The Chapel
The Clone and the Robot
The Abduction
Purvis Eurpts
The Newborn
100 Yard Dash
Ripley Returns
Baby on Board
The Battle With the Newborn
I'm A Stranger Here Myself
I'm A Stranger Here Myself (alternate)
Ripley's Theme
End Titles[/B]
WOW!! You are so lucky Hard Target.It has to be one hell of a listening experience!!!
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posted 06-11-2001 12:43 PM PT (US) ip
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André Lux
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quote:
Originally posted by Marian Schedenig:
Indeed. For me, it ranks right up there with the first installment - and that's the version that was released. I'd love to see Fincher's original cut (and seeing how luxurious the recent Fincher DVD releases were, perhaps we might see it someday?)
Now tell me, except from the great gothic ambience, the outstanding score from Gondenthal and one or two good sequences, what else makes Alien³ so great? I can't understand that.
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posted 06-11-2001 01:34 PM PT (US) ip
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SEBULBA
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One thing for me I really like about 3 is the Alien itself. I like the design of it a lot. It's just about the same as Resurrection. I really love the original and Cameron's take on the aliens, but the look of it in 3 is really sleek and mean.I read the book before the movie came out, and I liked the book better. I beleive it's more of what Fincher had in mind. I know that many of the scenes cut from the film are ones in the book. Such as finding the dead hugger, trapping the alien, etc.
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posted 06-11-2001 02:30 PM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig
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The Alien franchise never relied on an overly intelligent script. I don't mean that in a bad way (I don't consider any of the 4 scripts dumb), it's just that the scripts were serviceable, with some nice background, but that's it. You won't find much of a script in the last 30 minutes of Alien, but it's still thrilling as hell.I think Alien³ is a stylistic masterpiece, the visuals are just as great as Goldenthal's score. The story isn't any more or less deep than that of the original film. When I first watched ³, I found it a bit disappointing, but it kept growing on me. Fincher is one of my favourite directors, and probably would be even if I hadn't seen Fight Club or Se7en.
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posted 06-11-2001 02:34 PM PT (US) ip
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Hard Target
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Perfectly fellow supporters of Alien 3..hey K if you want acopy of this score let me know or email me okay.
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posted 06-12-2001 08:52 AM PT (US) ip
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Kyriacos S
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Originally posted by Hard Target:
Perfectly fellow supporters of Alien 3..hey K if you want acopy of this score let me know or email me okay.
Hey Hard Target,go check your email.
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posted 06-12-2001 11:49 AM PT (US) ip
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André Lux
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Sorry, neither of you was able to convince me that Alien³ is a good movie.Nice visuals? Great score? May be, but this isn't enough to make a movie good. otherwise THE MUMMY would be a good movie too. Plus, that CGI alien was ridiculous and destroyed what's left of the movie...
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posted 06-13-2001 07:49 AM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig
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Originally posted by André Lux:
Sorry, neither of you was able to convince me that Alien³ is a good movie.
True. It's the atmosphere of the film that makes it so good for me. (Visuals and score/sound effects add much to the atmosphere, but there must be something else to it, otherwise I wouldn't like it)
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posted 06-13-2001 02:39 PM PT (US) ip
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Hard Target
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Oh Marian, you take my breath away. Well ladies and germs, there will indeed be an Alien 5 coming soon. So let's see who'll be the next composer to finish off the trilogy.
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posted 06-13-2001 09:01 PM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig
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Rather pentalogy, then. Don Davis would be great. They seem to tend to pick newcomers though, so my vote goes for Christopher Gordon (he seems to quite like Goldenthal, too, so while I haven't heard anything by him in Alien-mode yet, I'm sure he can pull it off). NP: The Doors Concerto
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posted 06-14-2001 06:44 AM PT (US) ip
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Jeron
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Originally posted by Hard Target:
So let's see who'll be the next composer to finish off the trilogy.
Yeah... heh, 3 films = trilogy, 5 films = pentalogy. You beat me to it, Marian!
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posted 06-14-2001 10:34 AM PT (US) ip
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OHMSS76
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Actually Don Davis already wrote his version of ALIEN....little thing called THE BEAST, released in the mid-90's, tv movie, album on Varese sold around 200 copies....You know the one!
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posted 06-14-2001 10:47 AM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig
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Good? Available?NP: Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Volume 2 (John Williams)
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posted 06-14-2001 11:54 AM PT (US) ip
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OHMSS76
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Still around I'm sure(I dont have it anymore) but it was pretty noisy, aliens-esque, hammers on anvils. Lots of action, very long album.Dammit, I wish I had kept that one now! S~
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posted 06-14-2001 12:09 PM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig
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quote:
Originally posted by OHMSS76:
but it was pretty noisy, aliens-esque, hammers on anvils. Lots of action, very long album.
Is that a good or a bad thing? NP: Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Volume 2 (John Williams)
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posted 06-14-2001 12:29 PM PT (US) ip
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OHMSS76
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Mmmmmmm....good thing!Depends on your mood I guess...sometimes I want subtlety and class, others noise and balls to the wall orchestra. If you need another 74min. album of non-stop action, your ship has come in. If you want substance, great themes(I don't recall any here)....you are the weakest link,goodbye! S~
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posted 06-14-2001 12:50 PM PT (US) ip
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Hard Target
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Damn, no need to be hostile. I don't count Alien Resurrection. To me it's not part of the original series of films. I owned the Beast once..not a bad score, but really noisy as hell though and I think it ran about some 75 minutes or so, so definetly alot of music there.
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posted 06-14-2001 01:58 PM PT (US) ip
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Marian Schedenig
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Originally posted by OHMSS76:
If you need another 74min. album of non-stop action, your ship has come in. If you want substance, great themes(I don't recall any here)....you are the weakest link,goodbye!
Sounds interesting.
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posted 06-14-2001 02:18 PM PT (US) ip
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OHMSS76
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Oh hell, how lazy are we!?!?Here's the link to buy THE BEAST(Davis)from Varese, still looks to be in stock, and for only 13.98! 30 cues
http://www.varesesarabande.com/details.asp?pid=VSD%2D5731 Danny! How the hell are ya these days? Best,
Sean
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posted 06-14-2001 02:24 PM PT (US) ip
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Hard Target
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I'm good Sean, just wondering if you got my email regarding Basic Instinct. I've been busy other than that, I'm sure you already know I have Titan A.E. I want that B.I. lol so email me and we'll get together on something soon.
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posted 06-17-2001 12:17 AM PT (US) ip
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Jeron
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Originally posted by OHMSS76:
Oh hell, how lazy are we!?!?Here's the link to buy THE BEAST(Davis)from Varese, still looks to be in stock, and for only 13.98! 30 cues
Or, you can buy it here for just a couple bucks more, and support the MM.com online community.
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posted 06-17-2001 12:26 PM PT (US) ip
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