http://www.filmtracks.com/scoreboard/main.cgi?read=29946

This is really nasty, the webmaster should have it removed at once, it's very unfair to Peter K.

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9) He is bitter and is jealous of Dan Goldwasser's popular, successful, enriching ************** (this isn't unique to Peter Kelly, it appears all webmasters suffer this).

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Whatever that is, it's pretty stupid.

[HAHA -- that word is censored here, sorry. ]

he lets it all "slide" now.

that and he's got no love for Peter.
doesn't hate him either, but still.

the level of pettiness has sunken to a new low.

This has nothing to do with the fact that both are rustic and alienated gringos, but most of all because they smell bad and are bigots. Their nasty presence really pollute the board.

And for that they should be banned (or at least take a shower for God's sake!).

Notice: this was not a personal remark. Just a fact.

Thanks.

I am saddened to see that Ford Thaxton is hard at work over at FilmTracks, as this is exactly the kind of thing he writes about me. I've seen it. Obviously, Ford is obsessed with bringing down me and MovieMusic.com. When you think about it, this is actually very frightening.

One more point about Ford: For someone who loves to berate people for spreading rumors and not "going to the source," people need to know that Ford A. Thaxton has never onced spoken with me about my tenure at Hollywood Online. He only knows how to "read between the lines."

Let's look at these (I find a lot of these to be pretty funny... now I know why rock stars kill themselves!):

1) He "started" MovieTunes.com at Hollywood.com to "get all the babes."

I don't even know how to comment on this one.

2) MovieTunes was nothing more than a trouble magnet for Hollywood.com, attracting lawsuits from the music and theater industry.

There were never lawsuits. There were cease and desist letters from Movie Tunes (the in-theater on screen music playing before the movie begins) and the R.I.A.A. (old followers of MovieTunes may remember that instead of several short clips, we put up one full length clip, bad RealAudio quality and all - at that point, there were no such things as DSL or cable modems). Obviously, we had a great team of lawyers (the L.A. Times parent, Times Mirror, was our owner) and managed to settle all the issues before any lawsuits happened.

3) When he was about to be fired for sexual harassment (trying to get all the babes), he quit.

This is the tallest tale of them all. In fact, I think this rumor is closer to the truth when applied to the guy who was hired 5 months after I left. That's only what I've heard, as I wasn't there, so don't take this as truth.

The reason I left Hollywood Online is because I was making no headway with the executives. MovieTunes was one of the most popular sites at Hollywood.com, and I was hoping to get a budget for MovieTunes so we could hire more guys into it and make it even better... you know, magazine publication and all (after all, our parent was a big time publisher!). After some company named BIG-E bought HOL from Times Mirror, I studied the new management that would be coming and concluded that there was no more hope for growing MovieTunes. Within 2 weeks of me leaving, the old management was basically let go, and the new management took over (from Florida). Eventually, everyone was fired in L.A. except for four or five people. Now look at MovieTunes. It's dead. What I thought would happened, happened.

In the meantime, I was courting my now-wife, whom I doubt would have married a dude who "loved to go for the babes."

4) When he quit, he took the soundtrack collection he amassed with him.

Actually, it stayed. I had an agreement with HOL - any soundtrack used for inclusion on MovieTunes that I had previously owned before starting the website would remain my property. Anything acquired for the website from that point on would be Hollywood Online's property. Ask any of my co-workers (contact info available to anyone who really wants to know), there was a cubby stashed full of all kinds of soundtracks that remained.

5) Word spread in the industry. Composers who had been friends with him were shocked at his hypocrisy and never again returned his calls.

A list of alleged composers' names would be helpful.

6) Soundtrack labels removed him from their promotional mailings.

A list of alleged soundtrack labels would be helpful.

7) He was forced out of L.A. and moved to some low-rent housing outside of San Diego.

Actually, I moved to and lived for 21 months in a place called Cardiff-by-the-Sea, which happened to cost twice as much money as my house in Santa Monica. While in San Diego County, I married my wife in Rancho Santa Fe. Not the cheapest place to have a wedding, I agree, but if you keep things to a minimum, it's surprising how far a dollar goes, even in the second most expensive community in the country.

8) A year later, still unemployed and out of money, he moved to northern California to an even lower rental housing complex.

My wife and I felt the impending L.A. crunch headed towards San Diego... it actually was already there by the time we got there. We butted our heads, and made the decision that crowded freeways, expensive electricity, expensive gas and cramped living space was no way to raise a family.

9) He is bitter and is jealous of Dan Goldwasser's popular, successful, enriching ************** (this isn't unique to Peter Kelly, it appears all webmasters
suffer this).

Dan's doing a great job interviewing all these composers. He's obviously doing it for the love, as he's not making a dime by sitting down drinking tea with Don Davis on a hot summer afternoon. I've been there, too. With this site, I am attempting to see if making money is possible with one of these sites (without simply linking to Amazon or CDNOW for royalties, either... we're talking business). That said, I can't be bitter with any soundtrack site out there. None of them are in the same business as MovieMusic is.

10) He hates Ford Thaxton because of Ford's success and ability to cut it in this field. El Muhammed Peter Kelly couldn't cut it.

What does "cut it" mean? From the looks of things, I'd say I am doing just as much with film music now as I was before Ford Thaxton called me up for the first time in late 1993.

Still doin' the same thing....

Anyway. Sorry to bore with the details. I don't understand how or why Ford feels he needs to continue spreading the ill rumors. If I am so unable to cut it, why is he still bothering me? I am dust. Ford, if you are reading, please leave me alone. Stop talking about me with your friends. I am over, ok? I've failed, so get on with whatever it is you are doing!

--Brian

NP: The Evening Star Clip (William Ross)

**** off, Peter Kelly!

I didn't want to say anything, but I was cyber-groped by Peter Kelly, dear webmaster of the very board you are all visiting right now.

I'd also like to add to the charges against Young Mr. Kelly by mentioning that I'm pregnant. It's my sister AND my daughter! My sister.........AND my DAUGHTER! (she's my SISTER, while at the same time, she is also my DAUGHTER!)

Furthermore, the charges against Mr. Kelly will not be helped by my mentioning of the fact that Fish Chips are made of PEOPLE!!!! PEOPLE! Fish Chips = People. Fish Chips x 2 = People x 2. If you eat Fish Chips, you are eating a person. Person = you.

It pains me to mention the final charge I am hurtling toward Pete Kelly's direction. That charge is being a dickbag loser! Nobody says that to my mother, you spiteful fruit!

The final charge I cannot possibly hold up in court, I just wanted to write "spiteful fruit" and "dickbag loser" tonight.

Shaun

NP---nothing by a composer who's still living

Shaun, accept all of my apologies. Did you have to tell? I thought we had a deal.

Sending me 11 promo CDs of scores produced by Ford Thaxton and a ************** T-shirt is not my idea of a settlement. Pay up or enhance the idea in your brain that you will be run over by a car driven by me (or someone I hire)!!!!

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Originally posted by Shaun Rutherford:
Pay up or enhance the idea in your brain that you will be run over by a car driven by me (or someone I hire)!!!!

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From where I am, I can't dispute your documentation, but I did get an email from Ford about this.

He says, direct quote as follows:

"Peter's gone more than a little paranoid tonight. I had NOTHING to do with it in anyway, shape, or form. PERIOD. I would urge the filmtracks.com webmaster to backtrack to the original source ASAP. Posting something like this just isn't my style."

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Originally posted by John Dunham:
Peter: don't worry. It's not Ford. It's also not aimed at you, but rather at Filmtracks.

I am 99% sure that this person is none other than Kevin MacDonnell. (Regular Scoreboarders know who that is.)

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Especially that there was a similar Top 10 post about Ford earlier in the day.
MacQuackell struck again!

What I hope to make clear is that documented evidence exists that places Ford at the root of these rumors.

I've told Ford this in our "conversation" last night, and he has yet to deny he's been spreading these rumors. When I thank him for not denying the truth, he says he never confirmed what he hasn't said (duh?) and carries on with the typical song and dance about me being paranoid, a loon, etc.

Well, sorry to burst their bubble, but I am in no way jealous of Dan's site. Besides, of all the sites I run/develop/design, none of them have anything to do with film music. So obviously not all webmasters fit into this catagory.

It just proves that whomever posted that was probably abused by their parents, uncles, etc., as a child, and to this day they are bitter, sociopathic child molester/pornographers who rape small animals (and Teletubbies).

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Originally posted by mtodd:
Jesus Christ!

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Originally posted by John Zimmer:
This is a score board not a verbal punching arena.

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It's hard to tell these days, isn't it?

I have one idea of what I want it to be, and that's one with constructive, fun, entertaining posts, without the non-productive personal problems and flings people have with each other.

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Originally posted by PeterK:
We can thank Ford for this.

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Originally posted by Graham Watt:
I hope I haven't been too provocative in my comments.

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Provocative? No. Obtuse? Yes.
I'm still not exactly sure what you were saying. Did you mean that the top ten list shouldn't happen in film music circles? Or this thread? Or a great many people going after one person? I admit to being stumped.

I don't know who posted that crapp, but I responded in your defense.

While I don't believe any of this crapp (naturally), hypothetically, if all of it (or even part of it) were true, I wouldn't give a hooten heck. I have met you, both here and in person and I know you as you are now. Anything else ain't none of my business, and I consider you always a friend and will always stand behind, and beside you.

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Originally posted by André Lux:

Who cares about Filmtracks forum anyway?

Can't think of a more ludicrous place, with all that nasty teenagers fighting to discover what Hanzimmer's noise is the best of all time...

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Right on Brother 'Dre!!

I guess this "feud" is not something new!

Who wants to see Ford Thaxton vs Peter Kelly clay figures in celebrity death match?