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dgoldwas
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So after attending Don Davis' JP3 scoring session yesterday, I can assure all of you that it will be a killer (and I mean that in many ways) score.110-piece orchestra and 70-person choir.
The album should be out towards the end of June, if memory serves..... it's definitely worth getting!
Dan
posted 05-30-2001 09:19 AM PT (US) TimT
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Yeah I heard about the size of it and all already. But is it simular to any other score he's done?
posted 05-30-2001 09:33 AM PT (US) dgoldwas
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Well, it's like a mixture of THE MATRIX and THE BEAST, with a dash of Williams tossed in.But it's pure Davis.
Dan
posted 05-30-2001 10:07 AM PT (US) Camillu
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New themes? Or Matrix-like? (as in great music without themes)
And how much of Williams' stuff is there?
posted 05-30-2001 10:46 AM PT (US) jonathan_little
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So I take it this is being recorded in Hollywood... which means a 30 minute release?Or maybe 20 minutes since a choir is involved?
posted 05-30-2001 11:06 AM PT (US) Crono/Kyp
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But its Decca Records, so I am sure a 40-60 min disc.It better not be like "Matrix" that score sucked.
--Brian
posted 05-30-2001 11:09 AM PT (US) Dan Brecher
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Cwoar, sounds like it is going to meet my expectations then! Still on JP3, Dan, did you at all find out what that last bit of Immediate Music in the trailer was titled?Dan (UK)
posted 05-30-2001 11:12 AM PT (US) Jeron
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quote:
Originally posted by Crono/Kyp:
It better not be like "Matrix" that score sucked."Guards!!!! Off with his head!! Off with his head!!!"
I don't listen to The Matrix that much... in fact, I haven't listened to it in probably a year! ...but I'd never say it "sucked." The Matrix is a top notch score from Don Davis, and probably his most complex work to date.
posted 05-30-2001 11:49 AM PT (US) Quill
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Davis' Matrix score was serviceable...but he better stay away from that style for a JP movie.
posted 05-30-2001 12:13 PM PT (US) Quill
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personally...I would have gone with David Arnold...
posted 05-30-2001 12:15 PM PT (US) dgoldwas
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Jonathan, yes, it was recorded in LA with a full orchestra and choir - all union.Don't you fret, though, the CD had a crapload of tracks on it (they had already figured out what was going on it) and it looks to be pretty darn full.
As for the MATRIX comparisons, well, I think it's subjective after a certain point whether or not you'll like the score. I enjoyed it immensely. It was great seeing Don put the orchestra through it's paces; I don't think there was a single musician present who wasn't completely exhasted from the workout Don put them through.
Dan
posted 05-30-2001 12:26 PM PT (US) Jeron
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quote:
Originally posted by Quill:
personally...I would have gone with David Arnold...Well, in a perfect world, YEAH!
posted 05-30-2001 01:15 PM PT (US) Dan Brecher
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Did he use Lost World themes as well as JP themes at all? Curious considering JP3 is set on the Lost World 'Sorna' island.Dan (UK)
[Message edited by Dan Brecher on 05-30-2001]
posted 05-30-2001 01:49 PM PT (US) Reddi
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Is anybody even looking forward to this movie? I mean, I was totally turned off to the idea of another JP. Is anybody else(cast OR crew) returning besides Sam Neil? I just think it's kind of a turn off, when somebody completely new comes in and picks up an old project.Reddi
posted 05-30-2001 01:50 PM PT (US) Crono/Kyp
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quote:
Originally posted by Jeron:
Guards!!!! Off with his head!! Off with his head!!!"::cough:: (Brian hops on his airship and runs away to fight another day!)
--Bri
[Message edited by Crono/Kyp on 05-30-2001]
posted 05-30-2001 02:02 PM PT (US) dgoldwas
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Dan (UK),I don't know if he used any of the LOST WORLD themes - I heard hints of Williams' stuff, but it wasn't any of the major themes that we all associate with JURASSIC PARK. (I was only there for one day of scoring....)
Dan
posted 05-30-2001 02:19 PM PT (US) James
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I am looking forward to this score with an indescribable amount of delighted anticipation. Davis is quickly becoming one of my favorite composers. With every new score I hear (not to mention his concert work) I am more and more convinced that he is one of the best new composers to come around in the 90s. I thought THE MATRIX was nothing less than a masterpiece.James
NP - Songs from the Victorious City (Anne Dudley & Jaz Coleman)posted 05-30-2001 02:27 PM PT (US) rMuldoon
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Greetings.I know that I'm a newbie, but I'm hoping you can take some time to answer just a few questions below. You don't have to, of course, but I'm just interested in knowing more about the score...
1. In retrospect, would you say that what you heard in the session was closer to the Jurassic Park score, the score for Lost World, or somethind entirely new on its own? Is it light? Dark?
2. Can you tell us anything about alternate or alternating cues recorded?
3. Does the score employ more orchestral action music, or a more percussion-driven type like we saw in the Lost World?
4. From what you heard, do you think it'll going to be a popular score (as the original was)?
posted 05-30-2001 04:35 PM PT (US) dgoldwas
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1. In retrospect, would you say that what you heard in the session was closer to the Jurassic Park score, the score for Lost World, or somethind entirely new on its own? Is it light? Dark?As stated above, it's neither JP or LW. It's a completely unique animal, and is entirely Don Davis'. He just hints at Williams' themes (in the cues I heard) though he does use them outright for some of the "arriving at the island" stuff. It's VERY dark.
2. Can you tell us anything about alternate or alternating cues recorded?
Well, some of the cues punctuate action on screen; there were a few alternate takes done to allow sound effects to punctuate the moment instead of the score. For variety, and flexibility.
3. Does the score employ more orchestral action music, or a more percussion-driven type like we saw in the Lost World?
Orchestra, orchestra, orchestra. Again, as stated above, 110-piece orchestra and 70-piece choir. You don't normally have those if it's percussion driven!
4. From what you heard, do you think it'll going to be a popular score (as the original was)?
Depends on your tastes. I'll enjoy it. Many people will. Others won't.
Dan
posted 05-30-2001 04:42 PM PT (US) Jeron
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quote:
Originally posted by rMuldoon:
3. Does the score employ more orchestral action music, or a more percussion-driven type like we saw in the Lost World?4. From what you heard, do you think it'll going to be a popular score (as the original was)?
I know these questions are aimed at Dan Goldwasser, but I wanna take a shot at these two.
First off (to answer #3), I think it'll be a percussive score with big orchestral action music. Considering there's a 110-piece orchestra and a 70-person choir, how could it not be? As for the amount of percussion, well... that remains to be seen (err, heard).
Secondly (to answer #4), that's hard to guesstimate. Personally, I doubt it will be as popular as the original (even non-film music fans latched on to Williams' album), though I think it stands a chance at becoming popular among us film music groupies.
Peace out,
Jeron[Message edited by Jeron on 05-30-2001]
posted 05-30-2001 04:49 PM PT (US) dgoldwas
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quote:
Originally posted by Jeron:
First off (to answer #3), I think it'll be a percussive score with big orchestral action music. Considering there's a 110-piece orchestra and a 70-person choir, how could it not be? As for the amount of percussion, well... that remains to be seen (err, heard).Well... considering that it's action, there's always bound to be some percussion! But it's not at all like the percussive jungle rhythms Williams did in LW. So I would venture to say, No, it's not a percussive score. But it's an action score, and does have percussion.
(and it WAS heard!)
Dan
posted 05-30-2001 04:52 PM PT (US) Jeron
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Ah, haso haso. Thanks for clarifying Mr. Dan![Message edited by Jeron on 05-30-2001]
posted 05-30-2001 05:26 PM PT (US) Shaun Rutherford
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I don't blame anyone for hating The Matrix score as it was represented on the Varese album. It does feature the more layman-friendly cues, but watch the DVD with the score isolated and you'll find that the rest of it is NOT "serviceable", but one of the best scores of the 90s.I say this all the time, and each time Thaxton emails me with the "newsflash" that Don Davis produced the album and it was his call as to what to include on the album, but the Varese album is one of the worst representations of a score I've ever heard.
Shaun
NP---Air's new CD. The track "Radian" sounds like a hybrid of Gerrard's Gladiator and JNH's Grand Canyon (the opening title cue--before the cut to the Laker game--and the "scared whitey" music that isn't on the album).
posted 05-30-2001 07:48 PM PT (US) jonathan_little
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quote:
Originally posted by dgoldwas:
Jonathan, yes, it was recorded in LA with a full orchestra and choir - all union.Don't you fret, though, the CD had a crapload of tracks on it (they had already figured out what was going on it) and it looks to be pretty darn full.
Sounds good.
posted 05-30-2001 08:11 PM PT (US) Dan Brecher
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quote:
As stated above, it's neither JP or LW. It's a completely unique animal, and is entirely Don Davis'.That makes me so happy! I know there was a lot of curiosity over exactly how much would be his, how much would be Williams' themes... It was alway my hope he'd make it his own and he has. Geez, "unique animal", LOVE how you put that...
Dan (UK)
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posted 05-31-2001 04:36 AM PT (US) dgoldwas
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Yeah, I know for a while there were various reports going around that he was using Williams' score exclusively (even I heard - and then pushed around - that one). But thankfully a few weeks ago when they started scoring the film at the Newman Scoring Stage, it all became quite clear.And trust me - my choice of "different animal" is quote apropos. You could even snag a line from the trailer and say "something has evolved".....
Dan
posted 05-31-2001 08:16 AM PT (US) Marian Schedenig
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quote:
Originally posted by Shaun Rutherford:
I don't blame anyone for hating The Matrix score as it was represented on the Varese album. It does feature the more layman-friendly cues, but watch the DVD with the score isolated and you'll find that the rest of it is NOT "serviceable", but one of the best scores of the 90s.Indeed. The album is missing much of the important stuff, and has several cues that are heavy cut & paste jobs, again leaving out material that's important for the right "balance" of the cues. The entire score is a major masterpiece though.
I'm now looking forward to the JP3 score immensely!
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posted 05-31-2001 12:47 PM PT (US) Aaron R. Brown
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I love Davis' score The Matrix. If you don't like that score, try to get the dvd and listen to Davis' commentary. He explains his music very well and you get to hear the cues that aren't on the cd.
posted 06-02-2001 04:35 PM PT (US) BMUSTANG
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You say it is taking place on the island from Lost World? I thought it was on the one from the first movie. After all, in the trailer, didn't they go into the lab that was in the first movie, where they saw the Raptor incubator? Anyways, I am looking forward to both the movie and the score.
posted 06-03-2001 05:49 PM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB