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Camillu

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Ok, here goes.Which is your favourite track from Pearl Harbour, and why?*
*answers such as 'coz it's the only one that doesn't blow chucks' don't count.
I guess mine is December 7th. The choir in the second half is lovely, but I mostly like the first half, which somehow reminds me of the plane crash music (by Gorecki) in Fearless.
Yours?
posted 05-24-2001 09:30 AM PT (US) 
Jeron

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I think the choral tracks are good, but for some reason, track 6 (Attack) and track 8 (War) appeal to me the most.Jeron
posted 05-24-2001 10:58 AM PT (US) 
dgoldwas

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I agree with Jeron, but the reason I enjoyed those tracks is because they are different from the rest of the album, which all sounds the same.Dan
posted 05-24-2001 11:04 AM PT (US) 
Widescreen
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Camilu,Amen and bless you for your post's title.
posted 05-24-2001 11:04 AM PT (US) 
Camillu

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hehe, thanks Widescreen.
I see someone shares my opinion about the handful of 2 page Pearl Harbour threads that popped up.
posted 05-24-2001 01:20 PM PT (US) 
wistiti

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First score track is my favourite. It's a "been there, done that" type of piece with background excerpts similar to Zimmer's Thin Red Line. But I find it much more enjoyable than TRL. And it's the first "cute" track Zimmer has done in a long time that I like. Most of his music for the past 5 or 6 years has left me totally uninterested. But the first score cut changes that.
posted 05-24-2001 01:27 PM PT (US) 
Quill
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Thank you Camillu...While I don't dislike the first few tracks, 6 through 8 are really enjoyable. Can't really explain why with any real intelligence...but I will reserve final judgement on the entire score until I hear it in context...
Thanks for the breath of fresh air...
posted 05-24-2001 05:21 PM PT (US) 
sabbey

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quote:
Originally posted by dgoldwas:
I agree with Jeron, but the reason I enjoyed those tracks is because they are different from the rest of the album, which all sounds the same.Dan
I guess I am the opposite then. While, I do like those tracks, it is the rest of the cues I like more, even with the repetitiveness throughout. Since it is different than most of what I have heard from Hans Zimmer.

In any case, I love the whole score. Don't be surprised to see it get 5 stars once I finish the review I am working on!

Regards,
Sean Robert Abbeyposted 05-24-2001 05:54 PM PT (US) 
dgoldwas

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quote:
Originally posted by sabbey:
In any case, I love the whole score. Don't be surprised to see it get 5 stars once I finish the review I am working on!
Well, I'm glad you like it! (Everyone is entitled to their own opinion!)
I do hope, though, that you review the album after seeing the film, to give it more context...

Dan
posted 05-25-2001 10:39 AM PT (US) 
Lancelot

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(For those of you who are following the war at home--or wherever your terminal may be located--we have going here, thanks for keeping up the fight.)After lots of analysis, I think I've got it nailed down to two groups:
1) Those that hate it.
2) Those that love it.
Anyway....bullshit aside. This is a really amazing movie. It's got its' cheesy moments, but overall. I can't even be sure anymore, that when I say "If you loved...Saving Private Ryan/The Patriot...movies of that calibre, (for whatever you regard as calibre) then you'll love this one...." I usually hate those kinds of statements--they're crap that you read in those cheap "coming soon" handbills that you pick up on your way out of the local video rental.This is quite an emotional and exhilirating movie. I know, somewhere in your mind, you've kind of prepared yourself for all the eventualities that may occur along the plotline. (Some say "predictable".) I think if you're looking forward to it, and have an open heart towards these kinds of films, then you shouldn't be disappointed. It's a full experience (well worth the whole $8 dollars.)
And just to keep this in context, the music works terrifically within the film--the love theme, the Japanese undercurrent, the action music. Great stuff, all of it.
posted 05-25-2001 12:04 PM PT (US) 
Reddi

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I love track 4(...and then I kissed him). The last half reminded me of one of my favorites: LEGEND OF BAGGER VANCE.It was pretty
posted 05-25-2001 12:33 PM PT (US) 
Justin

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Enjoyed the score a great deal. I chose to wait until after the movie to get it so it made the listening experience much more enjoyable.
posted 05-25-2001 03:55 PM PT (US) 
sabbey

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quote:
Originally posted by dgoldwas:Well, I'm glad you like it! (Everyone is entitled to their own opinion!)
Sure, I think it is good. Could it be better? Yes! In fact, all scores could be better these days. Oh well! Not like my opinion is any more important than anyone else's!

quote:
I do hope, though, that you review the album after seeing the film, to give it more context...
Dan
Well, if you don't mind waiting a few years, then I'll try to do so!

Seriously though, I won't be seeing this film anytime soon. Most likely I will when it is on DVD or cable though. Otherwise...
Anyway. I have to wonder why so many seem to be having issues with this score. It seems everyone complains when he is his usual repetitive self. Then he does something that IMO shows even a hint of originality and is rather good, yet he still gets bashed from the majority of film music fans. I just don't get it.

I hate to say it, but the feeling I get that most like to complain about the music, than being pleased with what is available, just keeps getting more and more a reality!

NP: Aliens: Deluxe Edition (James Horner)
Regards,
Sean Robert Abbeyposted 05-25-2001 05:32 PM PT (US) 
Shaun Rutherford

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I just now remembered what the Pearl Harbor "theme" sounds like. "Paris and Bond" from Tomorrow Never Dies. Check it out.Shaun
posted 05-25-2001 07:16 PM PT (US) 
Probable

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quote:
Originally posted by Lancelot:
After lots of analysis, I think I've got it nailed down to two groups:
1) Those that hate it.
2) Those that love it.I neither love it nor hate it. I'm simply not overly fond of it.
posted 05-25-2001 08:32 PM PT (US) 
Lancelot

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the rain falls on the nailed and un-nailed.
posted 05-25-2001 10:05 PM PT (US) 
TimT

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I didn't bother to read all the post here, but if its still on topic.I like the final track, Heart of a Vonlunteer. Why? Because a pretty good suite of the themes.
posted 05-25-2001 10:53 PM PT (US) 
sabbey

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quote:
Originally posted by Shaun Rutherford:
I just now remembered what the Pearl Harbor "theme" sounds like. "Paris and Bond" from Tomorrow Never Dies. Check it out.Shaun
Really? I hadn't noticed. Though, did noticed what sounds like Air Force One. Just listen to track 8. One of the most similar sounding sections happens at 3:55-4:20 and again at 4:53-5:15. Maybe it's just me!

Regards,
Sean Robert Abbeyposted 05-26-2001 03:16 AM PT (US) 
Justin

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Yeah I noticed that too Sabbey. Air Force One is very present.
posted 05-26-2001 09:05 AM PT (US) 
sabbey

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Glad to hear it! I have never been to good at picking out such similarities. Though, it is kind of obvious in this case.
I guess that music is just popular, take a look at U-571!

Regards,
Sean Robert Abbeyposted 05-26-2001 02:06 PM PT (US) 
Dan Brecher

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Track 9. I said in PeterKs thread I wish the enitre score had met the tone of this one cue, it's the only real cue off the CD I truly like beginning to end.Dan (UK)
NP: Pearl Harbour (**1/2)
posted 05-26-2001 02:38 PM PT (US) 
Justin

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Yeah I certainly agree with the abuse of the love theme. Geez even I have to skip it.
posted 05-26-2001 03:34 PM PT (US) 
Shaun Rutherford

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Is Justin about to be a Goldsmith convert?
Sean, I noticed the AFO thing, but not until I heard it blasting from my brother's room. He's totally obsessed with Michael Bay....ugh.
Shaun
posted 05-26-2001 03:55 PM PT (US) 
Justin

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Shaun...been a Goldsmith fan for quite sometime. Man has outstanding talent! Thank Jeron for enlightening me of such a composer.
posted 05-26-2001 03:59 PM PT (US) 
Shaun Rutherford

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Thanks, Jeron!Shaun
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