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Topic: Moulin Rouge / A Knight's Tale
PeterK
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Two movies taking place more than 100 years ago, yet take on a very modern musical landscape. One film fails, the other film succeeds.Moulin Rouge breaks the musical rules, but does it consistently... no gaps present themselves to allow us to think about the irrreverent mix of old and new - the film runs at a constant pace, therefore creates its own world we're drawn in to more than excised from (thanks in big part to the original score and adaptations involved).
A Knight's Tale just doesn't work for me (post-MTV dude). It's an obvious move to attract a younger audience, who may never care to think about the lack of integrity with the music choices. Actually, they won't care. Being young is all about breaking rules.... This film reminded me of the pop songs/score introduced in Legend more than 15 years ago.
Anyone else?
posted 05-20-2001 05:49 PM PT (US) Lancelot
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Despite the "musical travesty" that is Ridley Scott's Legend, (which, in its' US incarnation, had all of 2 pop songs, if memory serves).......I think A Knight's Tale is something of a greater "travesty" amongst score fans, because they actually got a good composer to score it, but overall disregarded the score. At least there wasn't much attempt to try and sell Tale as a story that was seriously focused on historical accuracy. Is it too much to hope for a score album on this one? Never can tell, these days.
posted 05-20-2001 09:57 PM PT (US) joan hue
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Haven't seen Moulin Rouge yet. A Knight's Tale was only mildly entertaining. I felt that if rock songs were to be used for humor, then the movie needed to keep that tone throughout. (Like Robin Hood: Men in Tights.) Alternating between rock songs and Burwell's rather serious (and effective) underscore simply added to the lack of "centeredness" this film needed. I wanted the film to "make up its mind" as to its focus. The music kept me on an emotional teeter-totter.Shrek also used a lot of songs, which overall I found annoying because the underscore was wonderful. I heard three or four wonderful themes that were NOT used enough. I did feel that the song "You Belong to Me" was effective. (That is truly an oldie.) Also, (semi spoiler) when Shrek is alone in his house, the princess is in the castle, and the donkey is alone in the woods, one song I've not heard before was great. I think it was Hallelujah.
I wonder if producers are saving money by asking for a 20 minute underscore instead of a 60 minute score, and then filling in the rest with standard songs.NP Classic scores of Delerue
[Message edited by joan hue on 05-20-2001]
posted 05-20-2001 10:06 PM PT (US) Pete M
Oscar® Winner
quote:
Originally posted by Lancelot:
....I think A Knight's Tale is something of a greater "travesty" amongst score fans, because they actually got a good composer to score itEh? Are you implying that Jerry Goldsmith is not a good composer?
Or just Tangerine Dream?
Ooooh, that's asking for trouble, so it is!!!
posted 05-21-2001 11:42 AM PT (US) Lancelot
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I'm not implying anything, though you may be inferring something unintended...perhaps how that should have read is:
"...they actually got a good composer to score it...."
or:
"...they actually got a good composer to score it...."At any rate--my real implication is that Carter Burwell is a good composer, whereas some are given to disliking the Tangerine Dream score....(overall, if we don't agree on the appropriateness or lack therof for Legend, that most of us won't disagree on Carter Burwell's capability for most scores...)
this post has far too many italics.
posted 05-21-2001 02:49 PM PT (US) Pete M
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Hee hee hee!!Tangerine Dream for Ever!!!
Or not, since they're a bit pants of late.
posted 05-22-2001 07:09 AM PT (US) Old Infopop Software by UBB