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OHMSS76 Oscar® Winner	Since the Search button is gone, and Im tired of looking for other posts about this.... whats the deal with this film and score? I like Carter Burwell's work very much, and the album is all 70's rock....whats the deal? Anyone see this, or know what Burwell's score is like? I was half heartedly hoping for a "First Knight" styled score from Burwell, but after seeing the trailers this film seems to be a trendy-teen Medieval flick. Any thoughts? Sean
posted 05-09-2001 03:26 PM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	Saw the film last week. It was actually rather entertaining (if not predictable and dumb) and was better than DRIVEN. It's still a pretty bad movie, though.... Burwell's score is surprisingly enjoyable, with a nice bit of regalitry tossed in to his usual stylings. Only one track on the pop album, though. Dan
posted 05-09-2001 03:29 PM PT (US)

JJH Oscar® Winner	better than Driven? what a sorry endorsement... I heard a few Burwell cues on a TV show that did a thing on Heath Ledger. sounded good, as Burwell always does. and of course, he gets a crap release. aw, what do I know? maybe he wants it like that.
posted 05-09-2001 09:33 PM PT (US)

Probable Oscar® Winner	What you may or may not know aside, JJ, this sucks. We should at least get a dedicated score CD, even if it would never be complete. Also, I'd like a pony.
posted 05-09-2001 10:18 PM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	Dunno where you guys have been, but there are plenty of Burwell scores that are not adequately represented (if at all!) on CD.... so honestly, I can think of at least 8 other scores should be released _before_ A KNIGHT'S TALE.... Dan
posted 05-09-2001 10:32 PM PT (US)

PeterK FishChip	It's obvious where one of you hasn't been, but that's beside the point. I do want to know why Burwell's score is surprisingly enjoyable, though. What makes it so? Actually, this would be a great discussion if a comparison could be drawn between Burwell's Hamlet and A Knight's Tale. There is a similar premise going on between these two, and I wonder if Burwell pulls a Horner, or a rabbit, out of the hat?
posted 05-09-2001 10:52 PM PT (US)

Jeff78 Oscar® Winner	Yeah, I'd rather see a score release for Mystery Alaska. Jeff
posted 05-09-2001 10:56 PM PT (US)

John C Winfrey Oscar® Winner	I had some similiar reactions to this also. It seems they are trying to tie the modern day to the old and try to link it to the younger people. Trying to be hip. Yep, I think it is some kind of "joke" alright. A bad one. John.
posted 05-10-2001 05:16 AM PT (US)

wistiti Oscar® Winner	Movie was fun. Dumb, stupid, and predictable plot since we've seen it hundreds of tiems. But for about 70% of the movie, the jokes were funny. The rock music totally appropriate. The film was more of a comedy or a parody than a serious film about knights. So the rock songs really worked very well. If anything, at times it was some of Burwell's symphonic score compositions which stood out as completely out of place. As for his music, it ranged (or seemed to) from a type of baroque, to big brassy action music, to cute string-based love theme, and the most appropriate cues: rock (drums, guitars, and the rest) sometimes accompanied by orchestra. But in the end, even if there were a score release, you'd have to be a Burwell fanatic to get the album. In the meantime, you can always enjoy the original song soundtrack: http://www.moviemusic.com/title.asp?id=knightstale
posted 05-10-2001 06:52 AM PT (US)

SBD Oscar® Winner	I'd like to see a score release for a forgotten Burwell score: "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" The film's okay, too. And I'd like to see a complete "Raising Arizona" (did anyone know that the chase scene music isn't on the Varese CD?). Who's with me?
posted 05-10-2001 07:53 AM PT (US)

Marc Flake Oscar® Winner	If I didn't chime in here for a "Mystery Alaska" CD everyone would think I had died. Sorry to get off the topic, but I have responsibilities. I've said it before and I'll say it again: "What's the deal with Carter Burwell not getting his music released on CD?"
posted 05-10-2001 09:06 AM PT (US)

Pete M Oscar® Winner	Well, I was actually wondering if Jeff78 was actually you in disguise...
posted 05-10-2001 09:13 AM PT (US)

OHMSS76 Oscar® Winner	Yes that was a HUGE letdown for me, when I got the tape for Raising Arizona when the film came out.....of course that is a bout a 7min. cue, and the only part on the album is "Shopping Arizona" which runs 2:45 but is heard in the film for about 24 seconds! I should have known....Varese wouldn't include such a long cue on their older albums. The only compensation is at least the main title is on there! Thanks for all the feedback about Knights Tale also. I have nothing against experimentalism, but this flick seems to try too hard at being hip. Oh well.... Sean
posted 05-10-2001 10:15 AM PT (US)

SBD Oscar® Winner	Varese (or anyone, for that matter) should re-release "Raising Arizona". Why? 1) It's one of Burwell's best. 2) No orchestra, just a small group of performers. In fact, someone should start a petition.
posted 05-10-2001 11:54 AM PT (US)

OHMSS76 Oscar® Winner	Surely an uphill battle SBD, but I'd be one of the first in line to sign that petition! I say uphill battle, since if I remember correctly Raising Arizona/Blood Simple is one of the better selling Varese titles. Sean
posted 05-10-2001 12:06 PM PT (US)

Dave Oscar® Winner	This has to be a joke. Its from Brian "LA Confidential" and "Payback" Helgeland. Two movies that were great in their own ways (no need to discuse the details ) Someone must have handed Helgeland a paycheck with LOTS of zeros at the end of it for him to make this stinker of a movie. dave NP - The Mummy
posted 05-10-2001 04:51 PM PT (US)

dgoldwas Oscar® Winner	Seeing as he wrote the film, directed the film, and produced the film, I'd have to say that he's fully responsible, and it has nothing to do with the $$. Dan
posted 05-10-2001 04:55 PM PT (US)

Greg Bryant Oscar® Winner	quote: What you may or may not know aside, JJ, this sucks. We should at least get a dedicated score CD, even if it would never be complete. Elmer Bernstein was on TCM last night introducing films scored by him. Host Robert Osborne asked Mr. Bernstein about the current state of film music. First, Mr. Bernstein said it was all too loud and nearly wall to wall. Second, he said that studios were too concerend about the wooing the 12-15 year old demographic, focusing more on the tie-in CD's that can be sold rather than making good films. I believes that explains the existence of "A Knight's Tale."
posted 05-12-2001 10:15 AM PT (US)

James Oscar® Winner	Helgeland really, really needed to decide whether he was making a comedy or a drama. The film suffered severely because of such an uneven balance between the two. It was like they were constantly cutting back and forth between two different movies. If he had stuck to the comedy, the songs actually would have worked quite well. I was laughing hysterically during the first five minutes simply because of how ludicrous it was. If they had kept up the ridiculous mood, I might have enjoyed the movie more. Burwell pretty much scored all the non-comedy moments. I thought the score was rather good actually, especially during the final joust. Mystery, Alaska is still in more dire need of a release, though... James
posted 05-12-2001 10:39 PM PT (US)

Camillu Oscar® Winner	Unbelievable. 1 track of score - and it had dialogue over most of it. Loud dailogue too.
posted 05-14-2001 02:58 PM PT (US)

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