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Richard Oscar® Winner	Tim, yup, its the same length, EXCEPT the Australian release has more songs. I think the score is only about 22mins.
posted 05-03-2001 11:11 PM PT (US)

Dan Brecher Oscar® Winner	Got the CD this morning, LOVING IT, way beyond anything I could have possibly asked for. I'm, very pleased., Dan (UK) NP: I'll give you 3 guesses
posted 05-04-2001 02:31 AM PT (US)

Pete M Oscar® Winner	You've got it already, Dan? Damn, that means it must be my boat now. At least that should stop it sinking. Oh, will it ever arrive? np The 'Burbs.
posted 05-04-2001 03:35 AM PT (US)

HAL 2000 Oscar® Winner	Judging by advance reviews of the movie itself it's probably a good thing that Jerry Goldsmith chose to bow out of this one. If he unreservedly hated working on the first one then he probably would have gone postal in the middle of doing this one. "A legendary film composer goes berzerk at Universal studios... eyewitesses tell the gruesome story. That and more coming up next on SICK, SAD, WORLD." The Silvestri score is, nevertheless, a fine job.
posted 05-04-2001 07:54 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	Dallas GuideLive gives the movie quite a good review. Click here to see it. quote: From the GuideLive Review Inevitably, the film must bear comparisons with Steven Spielberg's Indiana Jones trilogy as well as Mr. Sommers' earlier Mummy. Few adventure flicks can match the visual energy and grandeur of Raiders of the Lost Ark, and Mr. Sommers unwisely invites negative comparison by having much of Mr. Fraser's throwaway dialogue echo that of Harrison Ford in the Indy films. The Mummy Returns even supplies an optical homage to E.T., the Extra-Terrestrial. There remains just one Master Spielberg, but Mr. Sommers is an eager sorcerer's apprentice, and The Mummy Returns unravels with snap. [Message edited by Jeron on 05-04-2001]
posted 05-04-2001 08:26 AM PT (US)

Quill Oscar® Winner	I wouldn't put much stock in the reviews...fun, popcorn chompers don't catch much slack these days. And why would Jerry be so choosy, he worked on far worse films in his past? Cheesy as it may be, movies like this give a composer a chance to do something big and special...and Silvestri took the reins up quite nicely.
posted 05-04-2001 08:29 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	I don't put much stock in reviews either, Quill - but I always welcome a positive, optimistic opinion.
posted 05-04-2001 08:32 AM PT (US)

Dan Brecher Oscar® Winner	Yeah, Pete, 2 days it took from one of my usual import DVD suppliers no less! Hope you get yours soon! The only thing I don't really like is the song. The 18 score tracks I think are just great though. Dan (UK) [Message edited by Dan Brecher on 05-04-2001]
posted 05-04-2001 09:14 AM PT (US)

HAL 2000 Oscar® Winner	I take reviews with a grain of salt too. Still, many of the reviews I've read are by people who really liked the first movie. Jerry didn't even like that that one so I can imagine how he would feel about the second one. And you're right about him doing worse dogs in the past. King Solomon's Mines? Maybe he's finally had enough over the years and is just no longer as willing to holding his feelings back.
posted 05-04-2001 09:16 AM PT (US)

Rang Oscar® Winner	Has Goldsmith ever said why he didn't like THE MUMMY? I watched it tonight and while I still enjoy the film, the almost constant self-conscious humor remained an annoyance.
posted 05-05-2001 01:25 AM PT (US)

Dan Brecher Oscar® Winner	He likes the score though, right? I mean, he still likes to do it live. Dan (UK)
posted 05-05-2001 02:11 AM PT (US)

James Oscar® Winner	Just got back from the flick. Great fun, like the first one. All the complaints about having too many legends and storylines were unwarranted (in my opinion). I didn't find it the least bit annoying, nor did I have a slightest bit of trouble following it. As to the score in the film... all of you start praying for an isolated score RIGHT AWAY. It's not that I'm unhappy with the disc per se... after all, it is a fantastic 70 minutes. But there is a LOT of GREAT music in between "Come Back Evy" and the end credits that isn't on there. The disc basically skips the entire climax of the film. It's still great for now, though. James NP - The Mummy Returns
posted 05-05-2001 10:07 PM PT (US)

Valere Oscar® Winner	Nice Posts,Guys....Alex shall fade into the darkness......
posted 05-05-2001 10:58 PM PT (US)

UNKNOWN Oscar® Nominee	I've only listened up to track 6, "Evy Kidnapped," but I'm literally floored (so far) by what has to be this summer's first great action/adventure score. Incidentally, track 6 is an incredible action cue, very "swashbuckling," if that term can EVEN be applied to the music in context. I'll have more comments later today, but for now, I must get to sleep! I've gotta wake up in 3 hours! LOL. Alan Silvestri is awesome! That's all I have to say! Jeron Hey, I have listen to all of the soundtrack. It is amazing. I liked it so much that I had to listen to the soundtrack more than once. The score is increadble. I hope there are more like that,
posted 05-06-2001 12:51 AM PT (US)

Dan Brecher Oscar® Winner	I like track 9 more then 6, which I also love however. Dan (UK)
posted 05-06-2001 03:43 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	Well, I must say - I have listened to the CD about 20 times since that initial post... and yes, track 9 is VERY cool. I love it all. A definite winner. Jeron
posted 05-06-2001 10:24 AM PT (US)

Quill Oscar® Winner	I believe its track 12 or 13 (unfortunately the disc is out in my car) that I have taken a liking to...its the creepy, and at times bombastic choral piece. Love it..... Well, off to see the film, enjoy the rest of your weekend folks...
posted 05-06-2001 10:52 AM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Oscar® Winner	Was dumb enough to actually see this piece of trash on Friday, and noticed that toward the end of the film, they just started re-using cues from earlier in the score (such as the first cue, which must play about 26 times in the final "battle" scene--if you can call it a battle OR a scene). To show what times we live in, when The Rock appeared on screen in the opening, about 30 people, all sporting mullets, burst into cheers and applause. That should've been my signal to leave and go see Town & Country (which, by comparison, might have actually seemed less a total and complete mess than it was purported to be), but I stayed. Nothing in this movie is remotely interesting, not even as a popcorn-chomper. This is MST3K material. And as much as I tried to keep an open mind about the film, at about the time a character outruns the f*cking sun, I had to just say it: "This is what it's come to. A guy is outrunning sunlight." Oh well. Bring on A.I. Shaun
posted 05-06-2001 12:20 PM PT (US)

John Dunham Oscar® Winner	Shaun: I completely disagree with you. I thought it was great fun. But one little note: as in The Mummy, the sun rises backwards. I.E., lower objects are illuminated before higher ones, as oppose to real life where the curvature of the Earth dictates that the highest objects will be hit by the sunlight first. NP: The Mummy Returns, Silvestri (Track: Evy Kidnapped)
posted 05-06-2001 12:40 PM PT (US)

H Rocco Oscar® Winner	I won't be seeing any of THE MUMMY RETURNS unless I sneak in next door from something even worse. I didn't even hate the first one that much, although Goldsmith's music had a great deal to do with enjoying it (that vigorous anthem for Im-Ho-Tep that opened it REALLY sold the first few minutes -- I wondered if we might be in for something really GREAT -- silly me). I thought Silvestri was a decent choice for this job, but the samples at Decca's website completely underwhelmed me. I'm no great believer in reviews either, but the consensus does seem to be that this is a far more CYNICAL movie than the first one was -- it was a loosely written, occasionally funny piece of work with a few decent action setpieces and at least one memorable CGI effect (the giant Mummy's head in the sandstorm), while this one, by most accounts, is just more of the same, only bigger and louder. As Silvestri can be one of the "loudest" composers in the business (c.f. BLOWN AWAY, a score I liked), he's a more than appropriate choice ... but I don't think I'll roll the dice on this album for more than a couple of bucks, and even then, probably not. NP: THE FINAL CONFLICT (speaking of loud, or rather not loud ENOUGH, the mix is louder in the MOVIE than on the damn ALBUM)
posted 05-06-2001 01:34 PM PT (US)

Dylan Oscar® Winner	I saw the film today and I thought it was great fun. I really like movies like this, and I thought the cast was great especially Brendan Fraser who is good at an action hero and as a comedic actor. My father bought me the score after the movie was over becuase we both agreed that it was a fine soundtrack. I really think the love theme is gorgeous and the CD as a whole is very good.
posted 05-06-2001 06:40 PM PT (US)

Shaun Rutherford Oscar® Winner	John, Were you FACING the screen? Shaun
posted 05-06-2001 09:18 PM PT (US)

SPQR Oscar® Winner	Haven't seen the film yet...I'll fit that in some time this week. But, I have heard the soundtrack, and as far as an Alan Silvestri score goes...it's a positive stretch...but as has been my observation of his efforts over the past 15 years, the fellow's meager symphonic gifts prevent him from filling even 2 minutes with a complete idea. It's very pastiche scoring. Good pastiche, mind you. A far cry better than anything James Newton Howard, John Debney or Danny Elfman would pawn on us. Still, my reaction with the closing of each track is the same: that's it? It's not that Silvestri is lacking in material because the score is chalk-a-block with motif's touched upon here and there but, sadly, none of it is played with or expanded upon to establish some sort of continuity, let alone provide some sense of dramatic tension (his work on 'What Lies Beneath' prooves identical in this respect). And I don't consider the heroic fanfare a unifying theme since by track 8 it's well overstayed it's welcome. In fact, track 8 reminds me of the musical travesty that is 'Cutthoat Island'. These sorts of anthems are a dime a dozen, and any composer worth his salt would no better than to repeat one so indelicately, so formulaically, and so often throughout a score 25 yrs after 'Star Wars'. Which is why I would salute Goldsmith again for his judicious use of his anthem in 'The Mummy', as well as his usual masterly means of building a score from 2 or three themes, thus providing a foundation two fill that 2 minutes or more with something as concrete and tangible as A: this is the beginning; and B: this is the middle; and, finally C: this is the end. I would cite the final 5 minutes of "Rebirth" from "The Mummy" to highlight the significant creative advantage a composer such as Goldsmith has when he knows how to twist and shape his own melodies for, sometimes, dramatically different purposes. For myself, there is more solid fun and drama to be had in those 5 minutes than all 65 minutes of Silvestri's "The Mummy Returns", which, ultimately, is comprised of a few minutes worth of good ideas that sadly end up going nowhere, leaveing a hell of long time left over for alot of cacaphonic filler. And I do mean alot. Still, it could have been a good deal worse... Happy Listening! NP: The 13th Warrior
posted 05-06-2001 10:33 PM PT (US)

John Dunham Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Shaun Rutherford: John, Were you FACING the screen? Shaun Generally, except when my head was spinning from the dizzying continual action (spinning in a GOOD way, mind you). NP: The Mummy Returns, Silvestri (Track: My First Bus Ride)
posted 05-07-2001 03:30 AM PT (US)

Quill Oscar® Winner	Well...I had a blast. Top notch film making...nah. But fun...invariably the enjoyment you get from this film will be dictated by your expectations of the film and what you demand of it. I for one enjoy two hour rollercoasters...and it appears that I will be the lone fool clinging to the notion that this score is a tad better than the first. Do I hear knives sharpening in the distance...
posted 05-07-2001 07:46 AM PT (US)

HAL 2000 Oscar® Winner	Everywhere, I keep hearing people comparing the two scores as if they were written for the same movie with the same scenes and same situations. How can you say which is better when they are two different movies? I can see saying which one you prefer but which is better? It's not like the two scores are in anyway dissimilar in approach. Silvesti's score is almost an extention of the foundation laid by Goldsmith only without continuing his themes. This is due, I believe, to Steven Sommers who must have had firmly in mind what kind of music he wanted for both movies. The scores are the alike but different. Alike in approach but different in subject. Each is more and less of the other... in other words compliments. Goldsmith's more thematic, spookier (in a tongue-in-cheek way), more musically cohesive, and somehow probably more dramatic. Silvesti's is more heroic, more frenetic and more straight action with bigger moments. I would say, not having seen Mummy Returns yet, that those characteristics pretty much sum up the fundamental differences in the movies themselves. So which is better? That would be easier to say if Goldsmith and Silvestri scored the exact same movie but they didn't. I have my personal preferences but find them both highly enjoyable counterparts. [Message edited by HAL 2000 on 05-07-2001]
posted 05-07-2001 08:25 AM PT (US)

SEBULBA Oscar® Winner	I thought the movie was a blast. A lot of fun. The action didn't stop from the moment it started. Just leave reality at the door, and you should enjoy it.
posted 05-07-2001 08:28 AM PT (US)

KyleS Oscar® Winner	I saw TMR yesterday and it kicked ass! I loved it! I absolutely love movies like this. Cool characters, cool sequences, cool pacing, cool ideas. Very cool! The score? Fricking rad! I got chills soooo many times with the way the music and the visuals worked so well together. The scene in the movie that goes with Track 6 was just one of them! It was totally neat-o!
posted 05-07-2001 08:41 AM PT (US)

Quill Oscar® Winner	Point taken HAL...but the films aren't all that dissimilar, so I think comparisons about which is better can be drawn. In the end I think they're both great...but on disc I prefer Silvestri's As a comic side note, my friend just emailed me a note that I though was Hilarious... So, we've got The Mummy... Now, The Mummy Returns... should we expect..The Mummy Forever... and finally...The Mummy and Robin... Sorry...I'll go away now.
posted 05-07-2001 11:10 AM PT (US)

Dan Brecher Oscar® Winner	Mummy III: Ooops we raised him again Dan (UK)
posted 05-07-2001 01:34 PM PT (US)

James Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Quill: ...and it appears that I will be the lone fool clinging to the notion that this score is a tad better than the first. Read Christian Clemmerson's review over at Filmtracks. I don't agree, but I didn't want you to feel so alone.
posted 05-07-2001 02:29 PM PT (US)

Pete M Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Jeron: I've only listened up to track 6, "Evy Kidnapped," but I'm literally floored ... Jeron Good grief, Jeron. I've told you before about playing your music too loud. Those sound waves can be damn forceful. And what do I think? I think it's about time my flippin' copy of the CD arrived, that's what I think.
posted 05-08-2001 04:42 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	I think it's about time Pete Murfet finished his flippin' website. That's what I think. ...and don't give me the "oh, but I live in Scotland, bla bla bla" excuse. It's not gonna work this time. NOPE! Zip! Zip it! Zipple! Jeron [Message edited by Jeron on 05-08-2001]
posted 05-08-2001 11:44 AM PT (US)

JJH Oscar® Winner	okay, Jeron has gone off the deep end now. NP -- Symphony No. 2, Stenhammar
posted 05-08-2001 12:07 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	I was just tryin' to keep up with you, JJ...
posted 05-08-2001 12:52 PM PT (US)

Scott Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by UNKNOWN: Hey, I have listen to all of the soundtrack. It is amazing. I liked it so much that I had to listen to the soundtrack more than once. The score is increadble. I hope there are more like that, My oh my, It is alive! I have created a monster! ...a good monster...but a monster nevertheless. Scott NP: Enemy at the Gates...(dang it, I don't wanna like it this much...but I am beginning to...)
posted 05-08-2001 07:46 PM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	He's not a monster, he's a... he's a... he's a mananster! Ahhh! Run for your lives!
posted 05-08-2001 08:13 PM PT (US)

Pete M Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Jeron: I think it's about time Pete Murfet finished his flippin' website. That's what I think. ...and don't give me the "oh, but I live in Scotland, bla bla bla" excuse. It's not gonna work this time. NOPE! Zip! Zip it! Zipple! Jeron [Message edited by Jeron on 05-08-2001] Oh come one, I only just decided last week to have one. I have got a bit more there than you can see, but I'm waiting till I've got a few reviews & stuff up there before I go opening it up more fully. And having a HUGE major project due in this Friday, & an exam next Wednesday, doesn't help. With a bit of luck, I should open it up a bit more early next week. Keep watching... AHA!!!!!! Arrived this morning - THE MUMMY RETURNS (& Aliens DE ). I've only listened to a bit of it so far, but I'm liking what I'm hearing. First bus ride seems perhaps a little over-reliant on the heroic fanfare theme, but it's so much fun I don't really care. In fact, my impression overall is that it's not really anything much new, but, by heckers it's damned fun!!! Wait a miute, I just said quote: By heckers Oh good grief, what is becoming of me? NP The Mummy Returns (track 3)
posted 05-09-2001 03:37 AM PT (US)

Jeron Oscar® Winner	quote: Originally posted by Pete M: Oh good grief, what is becoming of me? That's a very good question...
posted 05-09-2001 11:07 AM PT (US)

Pete M Oscar® Winner	Yeah, I think it's this big huge project thing. Good grief, I'm looking forward to Friday night. It'll all be over then. Mmmm, the pub sounds might beckoning...
posted 05-09-2001 11:21 AM PT (US)

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